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Anonymous
02:13
Anonymous
A new rescue hamster :-)
02:41
I have ELL moderator tools now, yay
 
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04:11
@snailboat A very cute hamster!
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Isn't she, though? And she's nice! :-)
Anonymous
She doesn't have a name yet.
Anonymous
We got her a very big cage to run around in, though.
Anonymous
She's asleep in the corner right now :-)
What is it that she is in in the photo? It looks a bit like a bowl.
Hope she'll get along with the snails well. :-)
Anonymous
04:13
It's a hamster wheel! It's a different kind than most of the wheels we've got.
Anonymous
She lives in a different room than the snails do.
Oh! I've never had one!
Anonymous
Hamsters need to run around a lot.
Anonymous
They do best if they have plenty of space to run around in, so a wheel doesn't exactly replace that, but they do seem to like running on their wheels, too!
Anonymous
If you can provide a safe space for them to roam around in outside their cage, that's nice, too.
04:15
nods -- I hope a catwheel could work the same way, if one existed. I wish my cat would have run more often. :D
Anonymous
You can sort of insulate them from the environment by putting them in these little plastic exercise balls. That way they can run around, but they can't get anywhere they could hurt themselves, chew wires, or that sort of thing.
Anonymous
They run around in the ball and it rolls around the house :-)
Anonymous
Sometimes you can let them out of their cage and let them wander around without that sort of ball. Occasionally they'll fall asleep next to you on the couch!
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Hehe!
@snailboat That could be cute!
Are hamsters good pets? Like, do they recognize us?
(Come to think of it, fish don't have to recognize us, and yet they're good pets. :-)
Anonymous
04:19
@DamkerngT. Rodents are fairly intelligent. Hamsters, especially the domesticated sort bred as pets in the U.S., aren't the smartest of the rodents, but they can definitely recognize people.
Anonymous
They can barely see at all, but they have an excellent sense of hearing and an even better sense of smell.
Ah, it could be fun hanging out with them on the couch, then. :P
Anonymous
Depends on what the hamster wants to do. They can be pretty fast! And they might not want to just sit around on the couch :-)
Hehe! True!
Anonymous
It's not like with snails where you can leave them alone and come back 5 minutes later, and they'll be in roughly the same spot.
Anonymous
04:21
Speaking of which, I should go feed my snails.
I'll look around the main site for a bit. See you real soon.
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Q: Having done something,... vs Doing something,

Tom LeeDo these two sentences mean the same thing? If not, please elaborate. Growing up in California, I experienced life that was different than most people in Mexico. Having grown up in California, I experienced life different than most people in Mexico.

Ah, I thought it would've been closed by now, but not only it have no close votes, it's also got two answers!
Anonymous
I'm back!
Anonymous
04:45
We have eight questions tagged now.
Anonymous
I like specific tags that help us find questions on a topic
05:08
how do you pronounce Paramecium?
Anonymous
05:27
Hmm, ˌperəˈmiːsiəm?
Anonymous
I don't use ʃ
Anonymous
And I don't say ˌpærə
06:17
@snailboat Is that due to the Mary-marry-merry merger? I do the same
@snailboat ditto
06:32
I guess "pair-a-mee-sium" would sound about right as well.
@snailboat Got it, thanks :)
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I think that's a pretty good ad hoc transcription of what I intended to write in IPA :-)
Anonymous
@Nihilist_Frost I don't know why I pronounce it the way I do
Good morning all!
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Q: Second conditional in future

Clement VadiI would like to use the second conditional to express something is unlikely to happen. The problem is this unlikely condition is about the future. Is it still ok to say: If I won the lottery next week, I would buy a new car.

Some disagreement there.
06:40
Morning!
Anonymous
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Chemistry alert: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/39456/…
Morning!
Anonymous
Which one is the Second Conditional?
Standard 2nd cond.: If I knew, I would do it.
nods
Past tense in the protasis and would in the apodosis.
06:42
@snailboat I pronounce it pretty much the same way as you do.
Anonymous
I can remember names for things that have something to do with the things they name, but as soon as we start numbering things instead of naming them, it takes a lot more effort to memorize.
Standard 3rd cond.: If I had known, I would've done it.
Anonymous
Imagine if you listed all the possible constructions in English, from 1 to ∞
@snailboat Indeed!
@Jasper Thanks, again! yes, blips :)
Anonymous
06:43
On the Alternation between Construction Eighteen Thousand Forty Six and Construction Twelve Hundred and Half A Dozen among Speakers of Dialect Nine (Author Five Hundred Sixty Thousand and Three et al., Two Thousand and Fifteen)
Morning @DamkerngT.
Morning @snailboat @CopperKettle @Nihilist_Frost
Anonymous
Good morning, @Usernew!
We have a joke about cavalry officers who out of boredom run out of new jokes to tell, and everyone knew each joke, so they just numbered them and said numbers, and everyone laughed.
@Usernew - top of the morning!
Anonymous
@CopperKettle That's like in Thai. 555
@Usernew 1:45 AM EST, argh
06:45
Oops!
@snailboat "Thai. 555"?
12:15 here :P
this is how my weekends go.
11:45 here
06:45
Ahh... my browser really loves to crash when I get pinged. :P
Anonymous
Oh, @DamkerngT. can explain why Thai speakers might type 555 and laugh! :-)
Anonymous
Um, oops!
Anonymous
Sorry 'bout that ping there.
Easy, 5 (ห้า) in Thai is pronounced "ha". :D
@snailboat It's all right. It still uses well below 2GB of memory.
It will become unstable when it reaches 2.2 GB, and it's very likely to crash when it reaches 2.4 GB.
06:47
... well, one day one cavalry officer strolls into the club and says, 301! Nobody laughs. He repeats the number. When another steps closer to him and says "sshhhh... no dirty jokes! there are ladies around".
@snailboat the para- prefix?
@CopperKettle Oh, so it's like a kind of code or something?
@DamkerngT. They had numbered all the jokes they knew to save time telling them again and again.
never got confused between the numbers?
06:48
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I wonder what number LOL got!
@CopperKettle
0 I guess
or 707
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@SenjougaharaHitagi: I'm not. Maybe a little bit. I'm a Wagnerite. I'm certainly not an anti-prescriptivist. I believe in the overall harmony of things. If anti-prescriptivists had their way, we'd all be living in caves and communicating in grunts and growls by now. The golden middle ground is the way: it may open doors to mediocrity, but it also allows human genius to do his bit, resulting in good poetry, great drama, and some pretty impressive essays on architecture and the human condition. — Ricky 4 hours ago
Anonymous
Giving people advice on how to use language ("prescriptivism") isn't a bad thing.
Wow, what's going on in that question!
Anonymous
06:52
It's just that sometimes people give prescriptive advice and couch in terms of What Is Correct, and these same people sometimes don't do their research very well, so they end up describing things incorrectly, making false claims.
Anonymous
There's no reason in principle someone who gives advice on how to use language has to say things that are wrong.
Anonymous
Can't we be anti-wrong without being labeled "anti-prescriptivist"?
In any case, I think this premise of the OP could be the root of confusion: "The problem is this unlikely condition is about the future."
Anonymous
The last half of the comment is a non sequitur . . .
Anonymous
Say, why does that answer have upvotes, I wonder?
06:54
@Stephie: Great editing job, Stephie-poo. Keep up the good work. — Ricky 8 mins ago
"Stephie-poo"?
@CopperKettle I flagged it already.
I think voting is always one of the problems on ELL.
Anonymous
I just flagged it too.
He is upset for editing his post and gently reminding him of how this site works. Again, I must add.
I guess it's an offensive suffix.
06:55
Something which we have no control over
Anonymous
@CopperKettle It's belittling and condescending.
Why people get offended cause of editing?
Anonymous
In theory it could be appropriate and not offensive at all with someone you're really close to, but I don't think it sees a lot of use these days.
Three flags can kill it, right?
ah, I see. I've just looked it up in dictionaries.
It's gone.
Anonymous
06:58
@DamkerngT. Is it three? I thought it was six, but I don't actually know.
Dunno
I don't know. Whatever the number, it's gone.
Anonymous
I should probably know, but I don't remember
I thought one flag was enough :(
I guess I triggered his attitude this morning with this:
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Q: Chips vs Fries: was this a tongue-in-cheek joke in "A Fish Called Wanda"?

RickyHere's a familiar sight: We call them French fries, or just fries, in the States, as well as in Canada. They're often referred to as chips over in England. In France they are, of course, good old frites (as well as in some parts of Scandinavia). Now here's what proper chips should look like, ...

Anonymous
06:59
@Usernew If a moderator flags a comment (with any kind of flag) the comment instantly disappears.
that's concentrated power :D
Anonymous
For regular users, I think it takes more than one, unless the comment contains certain kinds of profanity. I think if it does, then one offensive flag can remove it. This is from memory and may not be accurate . . .
Wait, is this user the same one who asked about "Beetle juice"?
@snailboat
Oh, yes. This is just sad.
07:00
@DamkerngT. Exactly.
And as he's suspended in ELU, he came to us.
same like that guy, arg
@Catija: The ELU maoists have exiled me for a month for being a smartass. Boo-hoo. That said, this question is an excellent opportunity for people who are desperately trying to learn. It has everything to do with the language. Or is it a rule here that questions have to be written in wooden and oftentimes awkward, never mind grammatically skewed, English, completely devoid of verve and panache? I'm not breaking any rules; what's wrong with a bit of entertainment? As for Movies &/or TV, I wouldn't be a good fit there. They're not exactly a bastion of enlightenment. To put it mildly. — Ricky 5 hours ago
a new word for me: verve
not new for me :)
There was a band called "the verve"
07:03
The Verve were an English rock band formed in Wigan in 1990 by lead vocalist Richard Ashcroft, guitarist Nick McCabe, bass guitarist Simon Jones and drummer Peter Salisbury. The guitarist and keyboard player Simon Tong became a member at a later date. Beginning with a psychedelic sound, by the mid-1990s the band had released several EPs and three albums. It also endured name and line-up changes, break-ups, health problems, drug abuse and various lawsuits. The band's commercial breakthrough was the 1997 album Urban Hymns, one of the best-selling albums in UK Chart history. The album features the...
Yes! :D
Anonymous
As long as we're engaging in meta discussion, I've kind of wondered if it wouldn't be possible to coordinate suspensions between ELL and ELU. Right now, we act like they're separate communities, and to some extent that's true. But really, every time someone's suspended on one of them they bounce over to the other and continue doing whatever they were doing before, treating the two sites as interchangeable.
Anonymous
I don't think Stack Exchange policy really allows for that sort of coordination right now.
Anonymous
But I think both sites might be better off if it did.
very better
Anonymous
07:05
It seems like an unintended consequence of splitting ELU into two sites.
@snailboat Good idea - but where would that be discussed?
Anonymous
@Stephie Frankly, I'm not sure. Meta.SE? ELL or ELU meta?
I see many users coming here and going there, not like rathony, but sincere and genuince guys like Regdwight, Tchrist
Maybe if we can tell them of this problem, they can be of help :)
Anonymous
Hey, Senjōgahara is at 999 reputation! One more point to 1000 :-)
Anonymous
@Nihilist_Frost Congrats on 2000 :-)
07:10
Senjogahara should just undo one of his downvotes and he will hit 1000, lol
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Q: Who of patients has recovered? Which of patients has recovered?

user124234 Who of patients has recovered? Which of patients has recovered? Which one is correct? Who of patients has recovered? I never ever heard such sort of sentence. Would you like to differentiate between them?

07:38
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A: the meaning of the phrase 'asked to make a fourth'

CopperKettlePhilip was asked to be a fourth member of their luncheon-party. We have the girl (member no. 1), her chaperon (2), and Lawson (3). That makes Philip a fourth. Example of usage: I have no company but what is proper To sit with the most flagrant whig at supper. There's not a man among ...

I wonder whether I really shouldn't have used the in giving the answer.
"Philip was asked to be the fourth member of their luncheon-party. " -- this looks better, but I'm unsure.
 
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09:12
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Q: a role in whatever Western diplomatic effort might eventually bring the war to an end -- why is there no "that" after "effort"?

Cookie MonsterSource: Russian media is spinning the downing of a Russian jet fighter into a wider conspiracy theory Example: In Given the alternatives, that’s good news: It means that Russia is unlikely to respond to the Turks militarily and unlikely to drag NATO into broader conflict. It could also mean ...

Maybe I shouldn't've posted my answer.
It blocked answers from others which the OP may be more interested in.
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Q: "the bounds of keyboard and cables, of monitor and mouse" - why no articles?

Cookie MonsterSource: How Computers Work by Ron White Example: The deskless PC has long been computing's holy grail, a computer that slips the bounds of keyboard and cables, of monitor and mouse, to soar free as a bird-a bird endowed with a constant feed from the Internet, applications that will run a mul...

> The deskless PC has long been computing's holy grail, a computer that slips the bounds of keyboard and cables, of monitor and mouse, to soar free as a bird-a bird endowed with a constant feed from the Internet ...
I'm more interested in why cables is the only one that is in plural.
Oh, wait. I didn't read the sentence.
It makes sense.
@NazmulHassan Maybe was, which is a form of be, tricked you. I don't think that you would think that I'm sure is in the passive voice. BTW, I agree that when the sentence is said by someone else, it could as well mean, "I'm certain that Robin was to have finished the work", but wouldn't that be an odd sentence? — Damkerng T. 3 mins ago
Better move it here. I think I need more time to think about it.
Off to feed and pet his cat...
09:34
Cheers to the cat!
It is the same poster probably who has posted the same question here
That thread looks long. I still think it's an odd sentence after feeding my cat.
I wonder if a native speaker said it, and in what context.
Thomas said, "When we say X was sure to have done something, we mean that we were sure that X had done something."
That's close to my first thought, but it sounds like an odd sentence. Not sure if it also works in AmE.
I found nothing in PEU, but it has this sentence: She was sorry to have missed Bill.
In that case, it's clear that She was sorry, not the speaker.
nods
In that threat Thomas explained everything nicely.
One could just rearrange his words and score some points here. (0:
09:50
Ah, I haven't read his second post. I just poked around. He even mentioned AmE.
The OP posted on ELL after Thomas posted his answer, so I think maybe the OP didn't buy Thomas' explanation.
Which makes me wonder in what timezone those timestamps on WordReference.com are!
Or they converted them to my local timezone?
I dunno. I have an account there, and when you log in, the time adjusts to your zone.
But I'm not logged in now.
I don't have one. His last post says "Thomas Tompion, Today at 8:48 AM".
I first started asking questions there, and only after some time relocated here.
09:55
nods
@DamkerngT. It shows the same timestamp to me.
Ahh... so it must be the server's local time.
How do we call a photoshop joke?
When a collage is quickly concocted using some graphic editing sofware
Not sure. I have no idea. Maybe not until I see it. :D
"a photoshopped joke" probably
The two other guys is a shot from a Russian comedy film
09:59
Oh, it's Photoshopped?
Cool!
Of course, it's a Soviet movie from the 1970s. (0:
I might call it a prank. :P
A Photoshop prank, or something like that. (A Photoshop job could be another choice.)
Now I wonder if I have to write Photoshop in lowercase.
I just recalled the Russian jocular stock question "Will you be a third?".
(when I was answering the question about make a fourth)
The question is stereotypically used by (and ascribed to) tipplers who deem it ungentlemanlike to drink alhocolic beverages in pairs, and so endeavor to gain a quorum of three. The phrase is used in movie episodes, especially of comic nature, and there are a number of jokes, like "Will you be a third? - Yes, sure! -Then let's go and find a second!"
So I googed for this phrase and found this photojoke with Bruce Willis (0:
Nice!
The expression "make a fourth" made me think of bridge (a card game). We sometimes say (trans. from Thai) "Will you be a leg? We need one more." :P
10:10
I think in English, that would be a hand. :-)
Bridge needs four players as well.
And players are called legs?
Yup. In Thai, they are legs. :D
LOL for the cats!
(another joke on "Will you be a third?")
Oh, the cat in the front looks quite like mine!
I should add this to my answer.
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Just for the LULZ' sake
10:12
:D
@DamkerngT. Then your cat is great!
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A: the meaning of the phrase 'asked to make a fourth'

CopperKettlePhilip was asked to be 'a fourth' member of their luncheon-party. We have the girl (member no. 1), her chaperon (2), and Lawson (3). That makes Philip 'a fourth'. Examples of usage: I have no company but what is proper To sit with the most flagrant whig at supper. There's not a man a...

Voila! (0:
Be ready for a ton of votes! :P
Or downvotes, from some guys. (0:
10:59
Person A: I would go on holiday if I won the lottery.
Person B: I would hope you would!!! (Means the same as "I should think so too!")
Hmm... I think I'm okay with the usage. Not sure which would you'd think it's strange.
Probably the would before hope.
11:35
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Q: Does "up to" include what is following?

TimFrom https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Tilde-Expansion.html If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character (‘~’), all of the characters up to the first unquoted slash (or all characters, if there is no unquoted slash) are considered a tilde-prefix. From my experience or ...

It's an interesting expression if we look closely.
An answer says, "If you walk up to a wall, you do not end up in the wall, you are just next to it..." (ell.stackexchange.com/a/75022/3281)
But wouldn't "someone sank up to his knees in the mud" mean that the knees of that poor guy were already in the mud?
I think it's genuinely ambiguous.
 
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13:08
In my humble opinion, at the language level, it means precisely what it means word by word; and I believe that you already know all the words there (except, as, otherwise, etc). It may be useful if you say more about your confusion. Or is it just that you know its meaning, but want to discuss this phrase in legal aspects? If that's the case, Law may be helpful. — Damkerng T. 19 secs ago
Law looks odd! I wrote only [law.se] and I expected it to be translated as Law.SE.
13:40
0
Q: Tenses agreement

lekon chekon It's about time i made a promise to myself that i'd go to the gym everyday. It's about time i made a promise to myself that i'll go to the gym everyday. Are both the above sentences grammatically correct? Do they mean the same?

Interesting!
Of the two, I like the second alternative better (that I'll go to ...).
14:19
@StoneyB Sir, I once made a suggestion like Eric's and mine was rejected stating the same reason. So I am confused here, one says to reject, one approves. What should I do?
14:47
@Usernew By and large I reject edits which add matter that takes an answer in a different direction; that sort of thing should be posted either as a separate answer or as a comment which the answerer may incorporate if they feel it appropriate.
In this particular case all I saw in the edit cue was the edit itself, and I rejected it; I subsequently saw the comments which indicated that the answerer was cool with the edit, and my objection to it was misplaced.
oh, thanks
@StoneyB
@DamkerngT. The interesting thing, for me, is the tense of the verb after "It's time that".
@tchrist But isn't usually the tense after "It's (high) time ..." the past tense?
Ah, a user was removed. I wonder who was it.
> What straits I was put to last winter for want of a sheepskin! I couldn't go to the stream, or anywhere else. And now he has gone off with all my clothes. I haven't got a thing to put on. He didn't start early. It is time he were back again. Perhaps he was been tippling, that bird of mine.
Eliakim and Robert S. Littell, Littell’s Living Age, 1882.
It's construed as a hypothetical, although this is not a distinction always preserved in present-day language.
15:03
Oh, it's were, not was! -- nods
> It's time for him to go to school.
It’s time he went to school.
It’s time he go to school.
It’s time he goes to school.
I imagine one hears all four of those.
I listed them in order of decreasing perceived frequency according to my own guesses at what's more common.
I think snailboat analyzed examples in COCA once.
I seem to recall that. Maybe.
15:13
@tchrist You and I both addressed this 'way back when:
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Q: "It's time something was / were done about the problem."

Graduate It's time something was done about the problem. It is a sentence from Murphy's "Grammar". Using was confused me, for me it should be were. It looks like this clause is in subjunctive mood—something that is unreal / imaginary, and in that case you always use were for any object. Unless, of c...

Heh. I knew it was familiar.
@StoneyB I respectively disagree that it’s mandative.
I'm tempted to take a week off and prepare an index to my prior posts so I can find them again and not keep writing the same damn thing over and over. --also so I can fix the ones I got wrong.
The were feels too hypothetical. If it were mandative, wouldn't it be be?
@StoneyB Lawler continuously improves his historical posts.
My argument is that it is semanticallly mandative ("It's time you were in bed, young man") and that if it were subjunctive (which it's not), the semantic context would call for be. And in fact sometimes be is employed: check the link in my last comment.
Nowadays I'd redo that Ngram with // to scale everything to the incidence of the most frequent use.
I don't believe I’ve seen mandative were rather than mandative be for several centuries now.
15:31
In any case, I think I got it right at the top: "As @tchrist's Google Ngram shows, it is established idiom, beyond the reach of mere grammatical logic."
Lightsaber (a promo song in Korea for the new episode of Star Wars): youtube.com/watch?v=ukAvTZbnN94
@StoneyB I’m sorry. I don’t mean to quibble.
@DamkerngT. No Yaoi videos in this chat. :)
@tchrist Why not? Quibbling is the prerogative recreation of the erudite.
But, but, Yaoi is Japanese, I think! :P
I love arguments.
> Quibble, quibble, kvetch at drivel:
“Forum burn!” thus spake the sibyl.
@DamkerngT. You expect an American to be able to tell a Japanese boy-face from a Korean boy-face? :)
15:41
BTW, I was surprised to see that song (Lightsaber) in a promo video for Star Wars.
@tchrist LOL -- I'm sorry!
BTW, TIL that the director of Boyhood is the same directory of Before Sunset and Before Sunrise. I made up my mind that I didn't want to watch Boyhood. Now I guess I have to watch it when I have a chance. :-)
@Stephie Sorry for that. I dunno why I get the feeling ELL is being filled with jerks impatient and rude people nowadays.
s/ELL/the Internet/
s/~/the world/
@DamkerngT. Who directed Before Lunchtime?
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I don't think that's a real movie!
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Both ELL and ELU have suddenly become very cranky. I think there's a lot of copycat crime.
15:46
@StoneyB Is "idiom" a noncount noun? Good evening all!
@StoneyB O.O
Oops! 'the same *director' -- My fingers don't work quite right today.
@StoneyB Have regs turned sour, or is it new people to the site that are the problem?
I noticed the change (of ELL's atmosphere) after the graduation.
@CopperKettle Like most nouns it can be either count or noncount.
15:49
@CopperKettle You got me wondering what a non-count verb is.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Count (male) or countess (female) is a title in European countries for a noble of varying status, but historically deemed to convey an approximate rank intermediate between the highest and lowest titles of nobility.
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@DamkerngT. mmm I think it's cyclic. There was an epidemic in ?August? around the Carnal Forecast, and now there's another around the R&R twins.
Aye.
If it's not subjunctive, I wonder how it should be tagged (that old question)
@CopperKettle Ahh. So please explain baroness verbs.
15:52
@CopperKettle Earl in England.
Could be just coincidental. Personally, I think it's because a graduated site tends to have more traffic, and thus more new users.
@StoneyB Carnal Forecast?
I wonder if there is any data to suggest that site graduation of ELL changed anything.
@DamkerngT. None of the science sites had this problem when graduating.
Except physics, but that's something else.
@tchrist Let me check that voting chart again...
15:53
@tchrist It changed the mods.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Barely.
@tchrist Still counts.
@DamkerngT. You can unblockquote it. It won't onebox.
I thought November got a dip, but it didn't. Probably the last time I saw it, the data hadn't been updated yet.
I see! Thanks!
15:56
@DamkerngT. The first option seems erroneous to me, 'cause there's no protasis.
@CopperKettle nods -- Basically, it doesn't make sense.
Or "it makes no sense", which is the same. Or "it ain't makes no sense". (0:
Hmm... I like It ain't no making sense better.
:P
16:09
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Q: "Some things are better left unsaid." - What is the grammatical function of 'better', 'left' and 'unsaid'?

MJF Some things are better left unsaid. This is the way I understand the sentence: [Some [things]] = subject [better] = subject complement [left [unsaid]] = predicative adjunct 1 [unsaid] = predicative adjunct 2 But I'm not sure. I appreciate your help.

@CopperKettle Yeah I just noticed it too.
I've got no idea how to anatomize this sentence.
I'm not sure about 'better'.
I can see one learner problem in the question: "This is the way I understand the sentence" -- I think they are mixing up "understand" with "analyze".
Why is "o" sometimes /u/?
do, who, move
16:19
Dunno. Great Vowel Shift?
@Arau I'm close to flipping a table. I do know that 'noble gases' contains 'the noble gases' and this is the third time I'm saying it in the comments of this very thread. I was just implying that there's a good portion of "noble gases" that isn't "the noble gases" (Blue minus red values) and other dets are rarely used to make such phrases, hence zero article 'noble gases' exists. — Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. 10 secs ago
Excuse me for a moment.
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OK you now continue.
Google Ngram can be treachery.
I would say "flipping the table".
@CopperKettle I dunno whether I'll flip a virtual one, or the one beside my armchair.
16:54
I wonder how often people upvote answers before they really read them.
(Just my general feeling; it wasn't about any specific answer.)
I had the urge to upvote StoneyB's answer on the "left unsaid" question, but then tried reading it and got tangled in terminology. (0:
Casting votes is actually tough and responsible work, imho.
Reading and evaluating answers takes time.
@CopperKettle When Stoney answers something, I imagine in my little protons, that he's inviting the OP for a duel: "Yo, ya think ya got cool terminology? Terminology this!"
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@StoneyB I agree about better, but I'm not sure I agree with the be part. But I don't really know what I should think about it. I'm not even sure if I really agree with Araucaria either, though I think the examples in the comment make sense.
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