Language Overflow

Nihilist_Frost

12:48 AM

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My noob attempt to get some of the hiragana

My "so" looks so bad

Damkerng T.

Looks better than mine.

> chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/16002625#16002625

Nihilist_Frost

I frequently ignored stroke order, oh no

my "ka" is awful too

it's too fat

Anonymous

1:13 AM

There's a font used in Japan called 教科書体, used in textbooks to show how students should write characters → identifont.jp/…

Anonymous

Anonymous

As you can see, it has the bottom of さ and き separated, which is how most people learn to write them by hand

Anonymous

Of course, your handwriting is up to you :-)

Anonymous

Getting the stroke order right is a good idea, though. It'll help you recognize cursive forms because those naturally develop from the stroke order taught in school, and a lot of (software) handwriting input works better if you write them in that order.

Anonymous

Of course, if the kana are legible, it doesn't really matter how you write them, so it's up to you!

Anonymous

1:17 AM

I write all my Latin letters bottom to top and spiraling from the inside out. I taught myself to do that before I started school, and they tried to force me to re-learn, which was a huge waste of time and really hard on me.

Anonymous

I still write them that way and the world hasn't ended :-)

Damkerng T.

It's hard to write or draw with such a big-nib stylus on iPad neatly.

Which makes me wanna try iPad Pen. :-)

Ah, wait, it's called iPad Pencil. Or more correctly, Apple Pencil on iPad Pro.

Nihilist_Frost

2:52 AM

教科書体 = kyōkashotai (curriculum font?)

jimsug

3:06 AM

Yay, my two favourite topics collide! australasianlawyer.com.au/news/…

> According to US federal law, the minimum sentence for the child pornography applies if he had a prior state conviction, “relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor”

> The government says “involving a minor” just refers to the last part of the sentence, “abusive sexual conduct,” not to what came before. It thinks Lockhart should get the 10 years.

> But Avondale’s prior conviction was for the attempted rape of a woman, not a minor so he thinks the law doesn’t apply to him

> The statutory interpretation, or canon his lawyers point to, says that “when there is a straightforward, parallel construction that involves all nouns or verbs in a series, a prepositive or postpositive modifier normally applies to the entire series,” according to Justice Antonin Scalia.

Here's a thing from the SCOTUS blog: scotusblog.com/2015/10/…

Damkerng T.

@jimsug This is a good example where ellipsis could make a difference!

jimsug

Personally, I think the government's argument was tenuous at best.

Damkerng T.

nods

jimsug

But it's the kind of problem that ambiguous drafting causes.

There's no good way to make it clear without separating it into two clauses, though.

i.e.: a) ... relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct
i) or conviction referred to in a) involving a minor.

Damkerng T.

It could work with a colon, "relating to these following acts involving a minor: ...". I don't know if phrasing clauses with colons is common in legalese.

Using two clauses is clearer, I think.

jimsug

3:20 AM

Right, yes.

Anonymous

4:41 AM

@Nihilist_Frost 教科書 kyōkasho is 'textbook'

Anonymous

@jimsug That describes a lot of Scalia's arguments.

jimsug

@snailboat Oh, not the court - I meant the prosecutor's argument that the adjunct should apply only to the last item in the list.

Anonymous

Oh, yeah, that's not a very good argument. I just wanted to pick on Scalia.

Anonymous

And now you've taken that away from me. weeps

Anonymous

4:58 AM

Okay, now I'm actually reading it.

Anonymous

Where do they come up with these arguments?

jimsug

I think they make arguments up to support the outcome they want :P

Anonymous

Yeah, yeah, I know. The system is designed broken.

Fantasier

6:55 AM

@Araucaria Thank you! :-)

Nihilist_Frost

9:19 AM

@snailboat I don't have an easy time trying to parse language that is written without spaces.

lol

Fantasier

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A: “In an undertone” - an adverb?

It's a prepositional phrase (also known as preposition phrase) because it's headed by a preposition (i.e., "in" of "in an undertone"). You can consider it an adverbial or an adverbial phrase, functioning as an adverbial of manner (you've identified the "of manner" part correctly). You can follo...

@DamkerngT. I think perhaps it's better if you put prepositional phrase in brackets, and preposition phrase outside, hence "preposition phrase (also known as prepositional phrase)" It could be somewhat clearer.

Nihilist_Frost

I'm sure everyone I've known pronounces "drive" as [d͡ʒɹaɪv]

Fantasier

9:36 AM

Random thought: I wonder if anyone ever mistakenly pronounces Ngrams [ŋɹæmz]...

Anonymous

Monolingual English speakers generally don't know how to produce velar nasals in onset position.

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