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user46190

3:24 AM

Interesting: forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2013/08/26/…

6:02 AM

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Q: Is it permissible to wear caps while playing football?

I could't see any football players wearing caps while playing international matches, but I could see some of them wearing large headbands. What's the rules for Football say about this? If the football players are not allowed to wear cap means, what is the reason for allowing large head-bands b...

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2:46 PM

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Q: Why don't more NBA teams use the triangle offense?

Does anyone use the triangle offense other than Phil Jackson? He won 11 rings with it. In the NFL, teams copy each other all the time. How come teams don't copy Phil? I don't think the argument that 'Phil and Tex Winters' are the only guys who really understand it. These are professional coaches ...

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Q: How come the NFL is not allowed to play on Friday/Saturday

There was some ruling back in the 1960s (or something like that) that barred the NFL from having games on the same days as College or High School games. I think it had to do with their anti-trust exemption. Dos anyone have more details?

user46190

3:43 PM

@waxeagle your name is calling: sports.stackexchange.com/questions/3132/…

@edmastermind29 that's a fairly difficult number to find...

user46190

@waxeagle it is, but don't you want rep?.

@edmastermind29 naturally. I'm already figuring out how to do it :)

user46190

@waxeagle I would guess he plays for the Houston Astros :P

user46190

Did you see that they are expected to make $99 in operating income this year? More than the past eight world series champions combined?

3:52 PM

@edmastermind29 potentially, but I'd actually bank on the dead ball era mets or Cubs rather than a modern team

@edmastermind29 yeah, it's insane

there is a solid amount of money in playing losing baseball in the proper city

user46190

@waxeagle Team logo and name change for next year: they will be the Hou$ton A$tro$

lol

user46190

@waxeagle i would think it would be in the older days of baseball...

very possible

fewer games certainly won't hurt

user46190

4:15 PM

Am i missing something here? This question has 3 upvotes, but received a -9 during the evaluation...something doesn't seem right about that.

@edmastermind29 it's not the question, it's the garbage answer

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Q: What is the lowest number of hits to lead a team for a full baseball season?

For a full season, what player has led his team with the fewest number of hits?

baseball statistics trivia

ok, I want a sql queryable index of baseball stats.

this search would be incredibly easy with one that was properly organized...

specially if it had ready made views or UDFs to compile splits

user46190

@waxeagle then there's this question (quasi-legit if not familiar with the sport) and decent answers with -6

user46190

@waxeagle that would be sweet....go for it

4:19 PM

@edmastermind29 pretty sure creating one would be a violation of about 1000 different laws

unless I went through baseball-reference or stats inc or somesuch

user46190

@waxeagle lol. one thing's for sure, the stats are available

4:34 PM

@edmastermind29 they are, they just aren't always organized in a way that you can find the information you want. and the filters that most providers offer aren't custom enough

5:18 PM

Ok I think I found it. Most likely the man of the hour is Bill O'Rourk of the 1878 Boston Red Stockings

aw sweet, there went my weekend: seanlahman.com/baseball-archive/statistics

user46190

@waxeagle omg...good work once again. im going to post the stock comment regarding specificity...heck, the OP might be looking for little league games for all we know.

user46190

@waxeagle lol :)

@edmastermind29 tbh, the information he asked for is completely useless.

user46190

@waxeagle yup, but if nothing else, make the question specific. we've had these questions before and will continue to have them as long as trivia is on-topic

@edmastermind29 it'd be far more useful if he specified "MLB, modern era, non-strike years"

(where modern era = since 162 game schedule introduced)

because there is absolutely no utility in knowing a guy got 71 hits in a 60 game season, you can't make a comparison to how depressed offense was to now.

not on those number at least

user46190

5:32 PM

@waxeagle exactly

user46190

@waxeagle would averages shed light on anything? ie) 1.xx hits per game that season?

@edmastermind29 potentially? Numbers that put things in light of league averages (like OPS+), WAR gives some idea though I'm not sure we go back that far with WAR

(just checked, and it does indeed go back that far)

user46190

@waxeagle so, WAR in baseball precedes two world WARs?

@edmastermind29 it's been backfilled, but yes

user46190

@waxeagle I would like the NFL to do that with QBR (and shed light on how QBR is measured....ESPN doesn't do a good job with that).

5:36 PM

the absolutely fabulous thing about baseball is that they've been publishing the results of games with quite a bit of detail in newspapers since basically right after the civil war :)

user46190

@waxeagle that's pretty nice, i agree

and of course baseball is more quantifiable than the other sports so capturing relevant raw statistics hasn't changed all that much.

user46190

@waxeagle was there a sabermetric movement before billy beane?

@edmastermind29 yes. Bill James has been doing this stuff since like the 70s or 80s

it didn't catch fire until Beane implemented it and had some good success in the 90s though

and really Lewis' book was first public consciousness of it

user46190

@waxeagle must've not gotten on base enough

5:40 PM

@edmastermind29 the problem is, like most industries, you have to be an insider for anyone to take your seriously

user46190

@waxeagle not only is it about what you know, it's who you know

just like everywhere else

@waxeagle What does "leading a team" mean? Batter no. 1? But that changes during a season right???

Bill James managed to make that name and now has a very lucrative job for the Red Sox. Tom Tango is consulting for the Cubs.

@Gugg wrt?

@waxeagle "What is the lowest number of hits to lead a team for a full baseball season?"

5:43 PM

@Gugg ah right, that would be the person with the most hits in the season.

Ah, OK! Thanks

user46190

@Gugg increasing your baseball knowledge much?

so in this case I've determined (deductively, not empirically because I don't have a ready database that's queryable), that most likely it was 71 hits in 1878.

@edmastermind29 A little bit, yes. Notwithstanding that I've played it for three decades now. :)

user46190

@Gugg i don't follow it as much as i used to as a kid, so a lot of stuff still educates me

5:48 PM

@Gugg what level do you play?

@edmastermind29 I've never followed it. Just played it.

user46190

@Gugg gotcha

@waxeagle Now, next to bottom level of fastpitch softball.

yeah, most of what I write about baseball is fairly limited to MLB and really only relevant to MLB because that's where most of the information is (and most of the focus of the media/web)

user46190

@Gugg i played ASA slowpitch softball...

user46190

5:51 PM

:10966478 Amateur Softball Association of America

@waxeagle I'm still a little bit proud to have played with at least one MLB player when we were a bit younger.

@Gugg Oooh which one

Ralph Gregory Milliard (born December 30, 1973 in Willemstad, Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles) is a former Dutch baseball player and current baseball coach. Milliard represented the Netherlands at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney where he and his team became fifth. Four years later at the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens they were sixth. Professional career Milliard played two seasons with the Florida Marlins and one season with the New York Mets. External links *[http://www2.sport.nl/olympischarchief2006/show.php3?spelen=40&pgr=136 Milliard at the Dutch Olympic Archive] ...

@Gugg ah, I was wondering if it might have been Sir Sidney Ponson

@edmastermind29 $275 million in debt, $99 million in operating income... you know, I think I want to buy a baseball team now

user46190

6:03 PM

@mmyers that explains a lot then

@mmyers the problem is figuring out how to get a bank to lend you half a billion dollars

@edmastermind29 groups like this go with huge debt loads with baloon payments and refinance them at the end

basically they just pay the interest

@waxeagle Show them the Astros' balance sheet

@waxeagle If you owe a bank already $275 million, that should be easy. [No idea what you are talking about.]

@Gugg buying a baseball team.

user46190

@waxeagle right. or leave it to the tax payers (cough...Miami)

6:05 PM

@edmastermind29 funny thing though, when the Ricketts family bought the Cubs they actually wanted to pay cash. But the TribCo made them take on a pretty massive debt burden in order to save itself a bunch of tax money.

user46190

@waxeagle cash = tax money? how does that work?

(also the TribCo only sold 97% or somesuch so they didn't have to pay capital gains...there might actually be a lawsuit pending on that)

@mmyers Why is debt/operating income a useful factor in valuation?

@Gugg That's operating income after paying all salaries. Keep it up for a few years while players are going through the minors, and you're golden

6:21 PM

I thought 3 was unhealthy (in general), but OK.

Something else. I tried a few pitches behind my back last Friday at warming-up before a softball game. Somebody told me that I cannot do that in a game. Is that correct? (I'm fairly sure I kept my arm vertical.)

7:20 PM

@edmastermind29 my guess is that instead of receiving cash the Ricketts took on/transferred over/refinanced some of trib-co's existing debt. honestly it was a ridiculously complicated transaction and I have no idea of the particulars, just that specific debt structures were a required part of the sale

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