The Sand Trap

which run in tiny ass little tunnels that barely fit the trains (and also act as echo chambers so it sounds like you're going through the Seventh Layer of Hell every time the cars go around a curve)

graffe

@GingerBot sure. They were built a long time ago!

The new Elizabeth line is not like that

GingerBot

I read the Wikipedia article, the history of the Tube is fascinating

wait isn't the Elizabeth line not technically a Tube line?

graffe

airconco.com/news/london-tube-finally-rolls-out-air-con/….

@GingerBot that I don't know

GingerBot

4:45 PM

but we're getting off topic

graffe

Ok, last post en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_cooling

GingerBot

That's a whole article? huh

will read later™

DLosc

@graffe It's around 31° or 32° here at the moment (88°F)

graffe

@DLosc what time of day?

DLosc

Almost noon

graffe

4:48 PM

@GingerBot it doesn't seem well updated sadly

GingerBot

it's Wikipedia, why not take a stab at it?

graffe

@GingerBot I see they are trying new ideas this year. It's just a really hard engineering problem

@GingerBot sadly lacking in expertise on the topic

DLosc

But like Radvylf, I am from the US (and not one of the coastal areas like Seattle), so I have air conditioning.

GingerBot

Americans in particular are great ones for cooling

graffe

Sigh ....:)

And energy usage I guess

GingerBot

4:49 PM

We don't talk about energy usage

graffe

That and Bruno

GingerBot

> Whenever you hear America abused, remember the ice. - Some American, to a visiting British author

graffe

I don't get it :(

GingerBot

It's a quote about Americans' fondness for ice

DLosc

Earlier this year, my apartment's AC was struggling. Got up to 30°C inside once. Since they fixed it, it's only gotten up to 28° or so on the hottest days. I'm sure that doesn't sound impressive to anyone without AC. :P

GingerBot

4:51 PM

Can I have that in Fahrenheit please?

DLosc

It was 86 inside once. Since fixed, it's only gotten up to 83 (and it was over 100 outside that day).

I'm reading about serial verbs in linguistics, and some of it sounds very similar to Jelly chaining rules :o

graffe

@DLosc it doesn't :)

NoHaxJustRadvylf

I think there's an inverse relationship between how hot your region's climate is, and how hot you're willing to let your house get. My parents are a lot stricter about not unnecessarily running the air conditioner than most people, and it still never gets above 25°, and at night, 23°

Of course, we've also had rolling blackouts multiple times this summer since everyone's running their giant five ton air conditioners at once :p

DLosc

What I don't understand is the people who keep their house cooler in the summer than they do in the winter.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

Eh, I sort of get it. I absolutely hate when it's hot indoors, but in the winter if it's like, snowing, it's nice for it to be really warm inside.

Alternatively, your house could be built by the absolute cheapest contractors in the world, and its insultation is just a big sheet of paper with "IOU" written on it, and every light switch in the house it 10° different in temperature than everything else, and so in order to maintain the same temperature in rooms on the outside of the house you need the center of it to be colder in summer and warmer in winter

Can't relate

DLosc

5:05 PM

@NoHaxJustRadvylf That one I could see. I do notice that it feels like a very different temperature in here depending on the outside temperature, even if the inside temperature reading is the same.

But like... it's supposed to be colder in the winter. That's why there are warm clothes, and blankets. Do people actually wear shorts and t-shirts around the house in the winter?

NoHaxJustRadvylf

I think people tolerate feeling too warm more in winter

DLosc

> insultation

That's when the contractor says "Sure, I insulated your house," but it's clear they didn't even try, and so you take that personally.

GingerBot

I'd rather be too cold then too warm

too cold? add jacket
too warm? remove jacket
still too cold? add jacket
still too warm? remove... clothes?
still too cold? add jacket
still too warm? Ŗ̶̙͚̙̪̱͕̏̅È̸̡̛̘͚̘̣̻̙̭̱̹̦̘̞̖̈̈́̃͛̌Ṁ̵̡̩̲̙̣̖͕̬̉͌̑́̀̾͌́̇͑͗̽̀O̶̧͔͙̗̭̼̘͇̲̥̱̮͂̓͜V̶̝̰̣̳̠͉̦͓̞̂͂̓̅̊̇̈́͌͗͒̈́̔͜͝Ȩ̴̹͙̼̖̃̈́́́͌̇̂̐̕͠͠ ̷̡̘̟̹̫́͆̄̉͌̐̂͊̈́͑͗͆̈́͘͜͠Y̶̡͓̙͚̟̫͓͎̝̩̎͒̿͑̾͝Ơ̷͚͊́͑̋́̅̆̽̒̍̊͠U̵̢͍̭̦͕̜̟̮͙̐̄̌̊̅̉̂̋̿̂͋́́̏̕͜ͅͅR̷̨̨͈̦͕̙̖̲͍̺͍̯̜̟̀͊̏̀͑͌͗̊́͠͝ ̵̘͙͍̊͗́͝S̷̡͉̰͉̈́͝K̷̺̪̇̔͆̿̉͛̄͌̕̚͝Î̸̡̹̞͓͛̋͌͠N̶̢͛̎̏̄̈́̂͋̏̆̈́͋͠͠
still too cold? add jacket
still too warm? Ṟ̷̠̫̙̩̹̳͔͔̤̟̪̹̩͇͇͚̲͉͕̖̙̘̊̐͗̓͝ͅI̸̧̧̨̻̤̘͓̼̮̙̣̮̝͓̭̫͂̋̋̉͌̒̊̓̀̾̈́̇̄̆͂̆͑̕͘͘͜͝͠ͅP̸̻̖̫̌͆̈́͗̆̐̐̐́̔̅̕ ̴̆͗̃̄̔̀̓̅͌̅̿̂̑͛̉̈́̾̏̀̊͘…

DLosc

I mean, I think "turn on fan" and "spritz self with water" are missing from that list, but yeah.

GingerBot

you get the point

DLosc

5:15 PM

Also "lie spread-eagle on floor and don't move," which helps a bit sometimes.

NoHaxJustRadvylf

You can always make yourself warmer, but yeah, you really can't make yourself colder without massive inconvenience

(and fans don't work, fight me)

GingerBot

lie in tub of liquid nitrogen

@NoHaxJustRadvylf but you're in Texas and I'm in Ginger's server

DLosc

@NoHaxJustRadvylf Fans can help if it's too warm but not extremely hot

NoHaxJustRadvylf

7:41 PM

If anyone here's starting a girl band of former genetic engineers, you should call it "The Knockout Mice"

NoHaxJustRadvylf

7:53 PM

> Please do not use the symbols #, ^, %, _, ', or \ in your password.

GingerBot

8:53 PM

YOU may be a better programmer, but I bless the rains down in AFRICA!

GingerBot

9:27 PM

hey look at this awful code I just wrote

I'm going to put that in OTTNB

def removeNotification(ident):
    global notifications
    print()
    print("Removing notification", ident)
    notifications[ident].destroy()
    notifications.pop(ident)
    # this is the jankiest fucking thing I've ever made but it does work
    nf = notifications.copy()
    notifications = {}
    for notification in nf:
        width, height = nf[notification].get_size()
        x, y = getNotificationLocation()
        nf[notification].move(x - width, y - height)
        notifications[notification] = nf[notification]

emanresu A

in Off-Topic TNB, Jul 22 at 23:24, by NoHaxJustRadvylf

If you're going to post random nonsense please do it in OTTNB or the DBA.SE room

GingerBot

and I did

NoHaxJustRadvylf

← 5 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

← 153 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

TKirishima

I received an invitation but idk what it is

GingerBot

@TKirishima It's because of the move

Unrelated String

9:36 PM

if your messages get moved to a room you're not in

GingerBot

have you ever known SEChat to not be weird?

Unrelated String

oh yeah you... didn't actually have any moved messages lmao

GingerBot

. _ .

GingerBot

10:02 PM

why is my mouse covered in goo

Unrelated String

...

GingerBot

yea I don't fukin know

user

@GingerBot What

GingerBot

@user is it not self-obvious? q:

GingerBot

10:39 PM

did you know that there is no law stopping you from putting an empty comment in your code. you can just. do it.

GingerBot

11:17 PM

so how do yall like my notification design so far?

I'm working on adding a body and actions

GingerBot

11:41 PM

hello lyxal

how do you like my notification

lyxal

Yes but it needs more cookie

GingerBot

what

lyxal

🍪

GingerBot

hold please

best I could do

just imagine it's a cookie

lyxal

Good.

GingerBot

11:44 PM

any other, more serious, feedback? I don't want this to look bad spicy

lyxal

@emanresuA @user @UnrelatedString @PyGamer0 @steffan is the above cookie satisfactory?

GingerBot

lyxal means notification

emanresu A

@lyxal no

GingerBot

uh oh

lyxal

@GingerBot no, I mean the cookie

GingerBot

11:46 PM

but I want feedback on the notification design!

should've known the perils of asking you

lyxal

in Vyxal, Apr 23 at 2:48, by lyxal

We don't take much seriously here at Vyxal, but you best believe we are very serious about cookies.

GingerBot

:/

lyxal

@GingerBot well there's not much to feedback on - it's a notification, not a whole user interface

GingerBot

but do it look good

lyxal

Apart from maybe adding dark mode support and an image to show where it's coming from, it's just a header and a body

It's hard to make it not look good

GingerBot

11:53 PM

I'm working on those

@lyxal oh yea? *sets background-color to vomit*

lyxal

So long as it's not intrusive and it's generally understandable, it doesn't matter

GingerBot

good

thabks

lyxal

Base it off system notifications from ios/android if you're unsure of aesthetics

Notifications just need to do their job in a way that isn't offensive to the user.

They don't need to win 92.2 beauty pageants a second

Leave that to the rest of the ui to do

GingerBot

where did you get that quote from

lyxal

The depths of my own originality

GingerBot

11:58 PM

wow

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