Oink's room - 2012-01-31

Feral Oink

06:50

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meta.stackoverflow.com/users/893/greg-hewgill Can you find me?

Greg Hewgill

hi

Feral Oink

Hi there! Thank you and sorry for my ineptitude.

Okay, this is story. Quora has user Jeff Hammerbacher

He is teaching some data course at UC Berkeley

big data big deal you know

He cites Stack Exchange

Data Explorer

On Quora, but he made a mistake

He is using Jon Skeet's photo as the creator of Stack Exchange data explorer

I told him, left messages, linked to original Blog overflow post

No one noticed, no one answered me. You are the only one that Jeff gave attribution to.

It is a mistake of comment system I think

Because Jon Skeet was the first comment

so his photo got uploaded. Let

me give you the URLs that are relevant, you will see what I mean in a second, okay?

Are you okay with all this? It isn't a big deal, but it should

Greg Hewgill

okay, but I'm not sure I'm in a position to do anything about it

Feral Oink

be corrected as Jon Skeet isn't a Stack exchange employee, and I don't even know if he wants his photo associated with Stack Data expxlorere. IF anyone, it should be YOUR photo!

Greg Hewgill

I didn't create SE Data Explorer, I don't work for Stack Exchange, I'm just a normal user

Feral Oink

06:57

Jeff cites YOU

Greg Hewgill

well, that would be a mistake too :)

Feral Oink

I know, but you are the only one that Jeff gave

attribution to in the post that Jeff linked to.

So there doesn't need to be anyone's photo, I realise

that, but it shouldn't be Jon's probably! ;@) you know, anyway,

let me give you url's. I don't

oops

to see if anyone would notice, but no one did, one second please URLs on the way, only two of them.

I waited about a week,

Thank you for your patience with me!

URL #! quora.com/Jeff-Hammerbacher/…

URL #2, specific one with Jon Skeet's photo, pertains to SE

quora.com/Jeff-Hammerbacher/…

URL #3 My comment informing Jeff that he made an erroneous attribution, with link to post from Jeff Atwood quora.com/Jeff-Hammerbacher/…

Greg Hewgill

first of all, I did contribute to testing the original stack overflow data dumps, but I didn't create any of the code to actually do it

Feral Oink

Two more to go! URL #4 Post that Jeff Hammerbacher links to from Quora, with licensing terms etc by Jeff Atwood blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/…

Greg Hewgill

second, I'm not sure how quora handles those photos, but if it's anything like google+ then it just picks some photo from the linked page

third, jon skeet doesn't work for microsoft (his profile on SO says he works for google)

Feral Oink

07:04

Your photo is in URL #4 written by Jeff Atwood. There is no need for photos to be included in the terms stated by Jeff, by the way. Just mentioning.

Last one URL #5 comment left by me on 22 Jan 2011 on Jeff's 2009 post, mentioning this blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/…

Okay, sorry. I don't know who he works for, I just saw that Jon was an MVP for Microsoft at one time.

And yes, the photos ARE just grabbed, which is why Jon's was picked up, I think,

since he was the first one to comment on the post, saying thank you back in 2009.

I don't know about legalities or if Jeff Atwood is concerned about this or not.

Greg Hewgill

well, I'm not concerned that my photo does not appear on that quora post

Feral Oink

I just want to bring it to his attention, because Quora and Jeff Hammerbacher have not corrected or acknowledged

Greg Hewgill

if I had to guess, I don't think any of the others would have a problem with the way it appears right now

the others being Jeff, Jon

Feral Oink

I love StackExchange. You all acknowledge me for being right or wrong, and aren't clicquey and it doesn't matter if I'm pretty or cool or cute here.

Greg Hewgill

glad to hear it. everybody loves stack exchange. :)

Feral Oink

07:09

And I want to help y'all if I can, cause I am so grateful for that, for getting to be here and people being so nice.

Crap I am crying. Damn DAmn fuck. I'm sorry. This isn't a big deal,

but I just want to be helpful. I use Quora too, and always get downvoted there, it sucks ;o/

Stack exchange is so wonderful!

I am so proud of my badge

I have it on all my blogs and Google+ and everywhere!

I've read all the research papers and I understand

the motivations, but I don't care because it has meaning and makes me happy!!!!

Greg Hewgill

yup, makes me feel good to help people find answers to their questions too

Feral Oink

So if anyone's name

should be there on Quora, rather, anyone's photo, it should be you or Jeff. Atwood.

Because Jeff Atwood cited YOU and only you

in the original post. with your photo!

Greg Hewgill

it's not a big deal, really

Feral Oink

But that is his decision not mine,

It is his company, and Jeff Hammerbacher is teaching this course at Berkeley, and some people get all excited over Quora.

So I don't know if Jeff and Joel care or not. Jeff has

when I have occasionally interacted with him.

But I don't want to bother him and get

him thinking this is some kind of emergency, you know?

So I bothered YOU instead.

Greg Hewgill

well, it's cool that Hammerbacher is using the stack exchange data dump, it's a great source of lots of data

Feral Oink

07:13

Because of your picture on that post.

It is indeed! Did you look at the Quora link? Probably not,

Greg Hewgill

I have a feeling that at the moment, Jeff has more pressing concerns. (from his public tweets and such) His wife is pregnant with twins and has been in hospital for four weeks

Feral Oink

I need to give you a chance to

!!! I assume that y'all are so fast and smart that you can do everything like lightening, and forget that reading speed and comprehension

Greg Hewgill

jeff is having to manage by himself with his 3 year old son so I bet he's not doing much programming

Feral Oink

is still finite!

Jeff H or Jeff Atwood?

Greg Hewgill

atwood

Feral Oink

07:15

Oh no! Is his wife not okay? I'm sorry.

I like Jeff lots because he is the Coding Horror, and I've read

his blog for ages

and because I thought he was from Phoenix like me. or lived here originally!

And he is funny and not arrogant like well, some other people who are entrepreneurs.

Greg Hewgill

the little info I have is just from his tweets, but I can't find them right away, you'll have to scroll back

Feral Oink

Oh, no problem! No need for that!

I can do that. I even wrote this, it was from Jeff's stuff about hell banning,

because some finance people on Zerohedge wondered

Greg Hewgill

so to answer your question, yes I did click on the quora link and yes, there is jon skeet's photo, but that's cool

Feral Oink

if they had been hell banned, and Zero8ch uses Drupal too! Or did.

The URL is crappy sites.google.com/site/dataanxiety/blog/…

Undesirables are dealt with harshly by Drupal is the title. I can't make

Google Sites create properly formed URLs

with Google hosting

and not being an open source project, just a personal Ellie website, if you follow.

Greg Hewgill

well, thanks for the chat, I must run - gotta do dishes before my wife gets back :)

Feral Oink

07:20

Okay! I understand. I will rest assured then that all is well.

I appreciate your time.

Greg Hewgill

no worries

Feral Oink

It was very kind of you. Go and visit with your wife now, do the dishes ASAP!

See you later, okay? I'll delete the mess I made on your quesiton ;@)

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