ELL's Cabin

Anonymous

00:59

@Catija White people, too! :-)

Anonymous

I'm embarrassingly pale.

Damkerng T.

01:20

@snailboat You'd be very popular over here. :-)

Skin whitening creams and lotions are ever best selling items.

Catija

01:51

@snailboat So true. My Italian heritage gives me "olive" skin that tans easily and rarely burns... but some people are so white they glow in the dark... and I have a friend who's so pale he's pink.

Freddy

08:38

hola

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

o/

Freddy

@in how was ur weekend?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Fun. How else is it supposed to be?

Freddy

not fun. just like mine

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Why?

Freddy

08:44

I had small accident. So my hands are now too slow to do all the stuff :(

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Car accident?

Freddy

friend's mo-pad accident.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oh.

Freddy

doctor told it will take a week to recover because hard skin of my palm is pilled of

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yakh!

Freddy

08:51

BTW need to go. Bye

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Cya!

Damkerng T.

09:04

@Freddy Sorry to hear that! Get well soon.

user116848

12:14

@Freddy Aww I am sorry to hear that. Get well soon!

user116848

13:52

Just came across this term somewhere thought I'd share: ad nauseam

user116848

> referring to something that has been done or repeated so often that it has become annoying or tiresome.

user116848

> "the inherent risks of nuclear power have been debated ad nauseam"

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

14:35

@Arrowfar I have seen it before. . .only in ELU's meta.

Anonymous

14:51

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I think you'll probably run into it from time to time in semi-formal contexts.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah, the ad somethingeums are very widely used in those. Or were.

Damkerng T.

The most common one is probably ad infinitum.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

If it's only ad, I'd say the commonest is ad hoc.

Damkerng T.

Oh, yes--that, too!

I ran into it so often back then. Perhaps it still was the time that many things in programming had to be done ad hoc-ish.

Anonymous

ad hominem is common on internet forums

Anonymous

14:58

ad libitum is common in nutrition papers

Anonymous

ad lib is common, um, lotsa places. :-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Yeah, I was thinking of ad hominem.

Also ad vertisement.

Anonymous

Silly :-)

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Oh @snail silliness has a world of its own.

Damkerng T.

ad ridiculus :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:03

No, that should be ad ridiculum. It's always in that format because: 1) it must sound like an element. 2) it's chic.

Catija

@snailboat I wonder... your Username is blue in chat but everyone else's is black... is that a mod thing or am I missing something more obvious.

Anonymous

Mod thing

Anonymous

And room owners are in italics.

Catija

Ah, So... if a room owner is a mod, are they both or does the mod thing supersede the room ownership?

Anonymous

Mods can do whatever room owners can do in any room.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:06

And that's not fair. </rant>

Catija

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Well, I'm not either, so rant all you like. :P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Catija No, I'm an RO, but ROs have less controls over their own rooms than mods from the other side of SE ocean do.

And that's basically unfair IMO.

Damkerng T.

One flaw IMHO about the design of RO is that ROs can't edit or delete messages.

Catija

I don't think that's a flaw... if someone creates a room and decides they want to edit what another user appears to have said, that's not OK.

Damkerng T.

But it's okay with mods?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:13

@Catija The other user can just ignore the someone's room.

It's their room anyway.

Catija

I think that the mods are expected to show a bit more discretion.

There's a difference between ignoring someone and changing their chat message to read something inflammatory or racist/sexist...

Damkerng T.

or undoing racist/sexist and other kinds of discrimination messages.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, if an RO is a jerk, the victim could simply not enter that room and talk @Cat.

Damkerng T.

Editing is not as important as deleting (or moving messages to trash) IMHO.

Catija

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M This room, at least, is an "official/semi-official" site room... though... it's not really their room...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:16

You're simply saying I don't think we should allow people do stuff because they may misuse them. This logic is proven to be infallible.

Catija

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M That's the way the entire SE site works, not just the chats. There's a reason you need 2K to freely edit posts without review.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Catija The main rooms are a bit different, yeah, but that's why we have chat mods; additionally, I haven't seen any jerks capable of being an RO for the main room or at least a popular room on a site.

Akh, in the second to last message I should've posted fallible.

@Catija That's because people may not know how to edit constructively.

But an RO knows their chat; they're that room's owner!

Damkerng T.

The bottom line is, we make use of what we have. :-)

The best we can.

Catija

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yes... and? You only need 100 rep to create a room... Why would you expect a 100 rep user to know what's acceptable behavior?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

100 rep is at least 10 upcoats.

@DamkerngT. BTW I told someone in chat to kick me outta the room to see what happens.

But since I didn't feel any pain in the A when kicked out it wasn't fun. :(

Damkerng T.

15:22

I could be useful to visualize how it works when you have to use it.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It would.

Bottom line, @Cat I do not buy the fact that a for example, ask patents mod knows the culture in chem more than user in the site with 100 rep.

Damkerng T.

One way to test the character of a person is to give them the power.

Another is to put them into suffering.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Now which one should I do?

Damkerng T.

Neither. :-)

Catija

Then propose a secondary way to create or elevate more chat mods... but I don't think that every RO should have that total control by default. Honestly, if snailboat hadn't helped me out by giving someone a timeout a few months ago, a bad interaction could have gotten worse but you're implying that she shouldn't have been able to do what she did because she's not a mod on ELL.

@DamkerngT. Which requires the added mod power of removing the RO powers, which isn't an issue right now.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:29

No, I'm not saying a mod should have less control, I'm saying an RO should have equal control to a mod.

Or at least, almost equal.

Catija

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Um... not even close. I do not want to get put on a chat ban simply because some idiot RO doesn't like what I said in their chat.

user116848

Oi!

Damkerng T.

The design seems to be based on, among others, one idea which is not always true: a RO is always in the room.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Being an RO has so little benefits, @Dam was baffled a while ago about what he can do that someone with a nonitalic name can.

user116848

I mean hi guys.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:30

\o

Damkerng T.

o/

Catija

I don't come here to argue about this crap. I'm here to chat with people. We clearly disagree and I don't honestly have a horse in the race, so I don't really care that much.

Damkerng T.

Are we exercising or something?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Catija chat bans are caused by either several flags from different users or a mod doing so, but allowing ROs to expand their kick-mute is a good idea, you must admit.

user116848

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Did something happen?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:32

@Catija :( Why leave? Bah, maybe @Cat wasn't in a mood for discussion.

@Arrowfar Nah.

user116848

Okay good, good.

user116848

I thought you guys needed Arrow's help.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I was saying an RO should have more control over their own room than they now do.

user116848

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Bah, I'm already happy, let me go to those Indians' chatroom to sadden a bit.

user116848

15:35

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M It is just a SE. Who cares about control? Pfft. I just come here and have fun with you guys.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Control is fun.

user116848

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I can sadden you. What do you want to hear?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You should be an RO somewhere to see what I mean.

user116848

Well you can put me in the list here O.O

user116848

Your call.

user116848

15:36

I am good anyways.

user116848

I'd just change the room topic and that's about it I guess.

user116848

And I came across this:

user116848

Stream of consciousness (narrative mode)

In literary criticism, stream of consciousness is a narrative mode, or device, that seeks "to depict the multitudinous thoughts and feelings which pass through the mind. Another term for it is 'interior monologue'." The term was coined by William James in 1890 in his The Principles of Psychology, and in 1918 May Sinclair first applied the term stream of consciousness, in a literary context, when discussing Dorothy Richardson's novels. == Definition == Stream of consciousness is a narrative device that attempts to give the written equivalent of the character's thought processes, either in a loose...

user116848

Oh do you guys watch Arrow?

user116848

You might know this second person:

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:41

What is that? Is it edible?

user116848

First one is the promo shot from next year's Supergirl.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Pfft.

user116848

Did I change multiple topics just now?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Like one superdude wasn't enough. There must be a supergal too.

user116848

15:42

Because some people in my real life complain that I change topics a lot.

user116848

Whatever that means.

user116848

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Hee!

user116848

You got a point there bro.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well, I'm not really chatting/talking, so I don't know if you change stuff.

user116848

So you are multi tasking right now?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

15:44

uber multi tasking.

user116848

In a car? I see.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

No hehe.

user116848

15:58

Ahh "uber" the word.

user116848

> denoting an outstanding or supreme example of a particular kind of person or thing.
"she's a self-proclaimed uberbitch"

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Of all the example sentences in the world, was that the only one you found?!

user116848

Naah swearing in jokes, sentences etc. is fine unless it is directed at someone.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I know, but!

user116848

I searched Google and I found that example on the top, maybe that's why.

user116848

16:11

You see I come from ELU chat so I can't help it O.O

user116848

ELU ways rubbing off on me.

user116848

I came here to enjoy and no one is here?

user116848

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M So to ping MA now I have to write "in...".

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hhh.

user116848

I was typing MA. It wasn't working. I thought "Wow, everyone left me, nooo!"

user116848

16:25

By the way are there any other good educational sites that have a good chat feature like SE? I searched but to no avail. Let me know if there are any.

user116848

Let's see there is "Wordreference", "Englishforums" and... I don't know they are not very interactive.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I dunno, frankly speaking.

Damkerng T.

17:06

Hello, @Chad!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

o/ @Chad!

Welcome to our chatroom!

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