The downvote came right on schedule

@Sue it’s probably just that the website was caching the title

@CharlieBrumbaugh I figured that. Which downvote? I downvoted an answer to one of your questions, which is rare for me, but I thought it followed the rules of a downvote. It definitely broke the new rules of conduct. I never explain my downvotes but in this case I was able to defer to those rules, which is exactly the point. I spent a long time reading those SE Metas about those policies, and one takeaway is that falling back on them is supposed to at least try to take the personal nature out of a d/v.

I hope I was kind enough, because throwing rules in someone's face can be just as mean as breaking them!

I was referring more to the “just google it”

I am getting really sick of dealing with that user

@CharlieBrumbaugh links?

@CharlieBrumbaugh - as @Ricketyship says, links will help

@RoryAlsop I think this was the one outdoors.stackexchange.com/posts/19863/revisions

I just went and saw what Charlie had asked recently and found this.

Thanks for editing that @Sue. I tweaked it further, just to avoid it looking like a just Google it post.

@Ricketyship @Sue: Just read through the chats about Thailand Cave rescue op. :-)

@Sue: As @Ricketyship said earlier, I am from India and haven't been lucky enough to travel to Thailand, obviously I'll prefer backpacking/hiking in the forests and mountains of Thailand than the beaches there.

Interesting though. That the kids survived 9 days with nothing more than water.

@RoryAlsop I think @CharlieBrumbaugh's concern is mostly with respect to the general comments/interactions/answers with the specific user. I do feel there's a bit of brashness and "google it", "look into WebMD" types that put people off..

Afternoon all.

@WedaPashi It was pretty crazy that they located the kids.

Hiya @Aravona!

@Ricketyship how's it going? :)

Is cave diving significantly different than open sea diving?

Oh it's good here. The monsoon seems to have taken a break. So it's a bit warm

@Ricketyship Massively - you need to do Open Water and then you have to do a subsequent cave diving qualification and training. Cave divers often have hard helmets, rather than neoprene hood, plus they tend to dive side mount - which puts two tanks under the arms, rather than one on the back (again this is often another course)

Preceeding Cave diving is often also go to do Night & Limited Visibility courses, as there is often no current in a cave, and the sediment can ruin visibility with a single misplaced fin ick.

You need to learn to set up and follow line and reels too :)

You would probably definitely need diver stress and rescue as well.

whoa

that's a lot

And how's it going on there? I read about you going to an Indian wedding :D

@Ricketyship yeah it was my coworkers, it was a really good day!

Indian weddings can be grand :) I'm from south of India, ours is very modest. The northern part celebrate weddings like a festival. usually it's a multi day affair for them :)

@Ricketyship yep - and those do fail on the Be Nice. If you flag them, it lets us add to the tally. We do have a suspension reason along the lines of continually disruptive or offensive...

@Ricketyship this was multiple days but we went to the ceremony and the after party - the food was brilliant!

Hoping to post a new scuba diving video shortly, my hood makes me look like a goofy toothy idiot - and there's bonus footage where I thought the gopro was off and it really wasn't!

@Aravona woohoo. Do post. I think I follow you on YouTube.

@Ricketyship Will do - I think my other half will be doing it in the next couple of days :)

PIDs are so boring to tune :(

What's PID? I only know of the pid in linux :D

There you go :)

is that you in the beginning?

@Ricketyship @RoryAlsop outdoors.stackexchange.com/a/19863/8794 before the edits

@CharlieBrumbaugh We saw already Charlie. I felt it was brash and unwarranted.

@Aravona Okkkk For me, mountains are good. This is scary :D I love forests, I love mountains, but water... Nope...

@Ricketyship I find it amazingly relaxing - and also scuba diving used to help treat PTSD in veterans :)

we were only 14m down max in those dives :)

i can see why it would be relaxing :) it's super calm and soothing sound-wise. But the whole feel of it kinda scares me :)

Hi All,

Hey willeke :)

I had a lovely 'try out and consider a course' first diving lesson. I liked it very much but at the time did not have the money for the course.

And now I do have the money, I have gotten cold feet and do not dare anymore.

I do swim in our local olympic size pool twice a week and do often dive dropped shoes from the bottom, (when the kids in the lessons have to train swimming with clothes on they often do not do the shoes tight enough.)

@CharlieBrumbaugh yeah - hence the edits.

last suspension was 60 days...

@RoryAlsop For the same user?

@Ricketyship aye

Okay. I prefer to stay out of this. But it's a bit annoying sometimes. For me certain comments seem unwarranted but I usually move on after 15 mins :D

@Willeke how's the Mod job going on? :D

I learned to dive on an impulse when vacationing in Hawaii. I was 55 at the time. Got certified by a PADI instructor in one week. But I had been comfortable in the water since age 5, and was diving in crystalline water -- also understood the physics. I think I would have panicked at 11 years old in murky water.

Being a mod feels familiar, I have been on in the past on several forums and that is not that different. The learning is things that are specific for Stack Exchange, like allowing to post from your own website, but not without limits.

@ab2, I am suffering some claustrophobia, not a lot, but when I feel I need to get out, I need go get out, which on longer consideration seems not what you want on a deep dive.

Being in the pool did not have that problem, I know that water and know nothing was going wrong.

I am so not a water person :D while in the mountains i get into streams and all to just feel refreshed. No real affinity towards it.

I started to learn to swim before I was 6 years old, did not swim much from age 12 to age 45, but since then I have been swimming two or even three times each week.

@Willeke I have some claustrophobia too, mostly on a crowded airplane. I thought I would be claustrophobic diving, but the first time I felt that way, I said to myself: "You are breathing, aren't you?", and I took longer, slower breaths and I was OK. Also, I knew all I had to do was tap the instructor and point upwards we would go to the surface. After that first mild attack, I have been OK, but I don't think I would ever be able to dive in underwater passages or inside a shipwreck.

Thanks @ab2, that is good to know.

Maybe I should go for the local course when it is on again. (Mostly in the pool I used for lane swimming) and worry about diving in nature when I get that far in.

In a pool I'm definitely fine. Always was a good swimmer, competing for county, and easily able to swim 50m or more underwater with a single breath. But I never trust anything man made :-)

Hazard of my job, really

So scuba gives me irrational heebie jeebies