The Axon Terminal

Robin Kramer

06:55

@Seanny123 Me too. Looking forward to what this discussion will cause :)

@StevenJeuris What will be the game plan? Will you be discussion leader, or could it be smart to prepare it a bit?

Steven Jeuris

12:35

@RobinKramer I suggest to follow the meeting agenda in order. Start out by trying to get various viewpoints on the table. Write them up as answers to the posts already in place.

And start with those attending to agree on a decided-on new (or same) scope and name.

So we can at least push forward current (active) consensus of those who attended.

A potential structure would also be to revisit the summaries and see how the majority present feels about those (in order to instigate concrete discussion on past consensus).

So far seems like we might be 7.

Will ping some more not necessarily meta users but active main site users.

@mrt

@OfriRaviv

@YvetteColomb

Given your active background on CogSci, we hope you could join for a discussion this evening in chat.

We are discussing a future direction for the site.

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Q: Cognitive Sciences Reboot 2017: Call for action

Welcome (former) CogSci users! Several months ago we gave it another shot: we started a procedure to reboot CogSci to try and finally get us out of Beta. Most of us agree changes need to be made to CogSci to make it work. We have now reached a point where your input is needed to help decide on t...

Yvette Colomb

12:55

@StevenJeuris yes ok, it's 4 am my time, but I can sit up. I have things to do and it will be good to catch up with the site

Is that meta post ^^ the only thing I need to look at @StevenJeuris?

Steven Jeuris

@YvetteColomb For the chat meeting? Yes. :)

Yvette Colomb

ok will do :)

Steven Jeuris

Would be great if you could attend. If not, there will likely be extensive meta follow-up after you can participate in.

Yvette Colomb

that's fine, I don't mind sitting up

Steven Jeuris

Where are you located?

Yvette Colomb

12:58

I put a lot of energy into the site way back and would like to see it suceed

Australia

I've improved a lot since I was last here

Steven Jeuris

Amazing. :) We've all learned a lot I believe since this site started.

Yvette Colomb

yeh, I wasn't well at the time though.

thank God they didn't nuke it

Steven Jeuris

Well, there never really was a risk of it being nuked.

But it has stagnated though. We do need to work on maintaining a more stable user base.

Yvette Colomb

I understand

I'm trying to do that on Pets also

this site has great potential

@StevenJeuris did we lose What?

Robin Kramer

14:52

@YvetteColomb Yes, a couple of month ago he changed his name to Bob (the Builder) and just handed out all his reputation to answers he liked. So that was a couple of thousand rep points distributed

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/2250/2017/3/6

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/2250/2017/3/8

@StevenJeuris Let's follow the "Call for action" post. We should discuss scope and name separately. One does not affect the other really

Yvette Colomb

15:07

@RobinKramer thanks.

Lakshmi Narayanan

15:35

Hi folks

I am wondering what is the scope of Confabulation Theory as a research prospect in CogSci

Is it still an active area of research? How widely accepted is it? Why and why not if not?

Yvette Colomb

you'd need to ask a question on the site

this can't really be answered in chat

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb I thought questions on CogSci are allowed only on the main site as opposed to my question which is more of opinion based question expecting an opinion based answer

Yvette Colomb

@LakshmiNarayanan I'm not sure it's opinion based

> Is it still an active area of research?

That's a definite question

Lakshmi Narayanan

what about the widely accepted part?

Yvette Colomb

hm I'm thinking about that

Lakshmi Narayanan

15:40

and also the question on research prospect requires a subjective estimate, doesn't it?

Yvette Colomb

Not really, it can be searched to see if there's much activity

I think it's an interesting question

Let me find something hang on

Lakshmi Narayanan

sorry image link got broken

let me try again

Yvette Colomb

this reminds me a little of that

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Q: Are life positions in transactional analysis accurate aides in diagnosing personality disorders?

Eric Berne developed the notion of transactional analysis (TA ) and author of the book "The Games People Play". Thomas A Harris then wrote the book "I'm OK - You're Ok" based on Berne's theory of TA. Tony White expanded on this theory. They produced the following concepts about people's life ...

cognitive-psychology abnormal-psychology cognitive-modeling

Lakshmi Narayanan

^ In a nutshell

Yvette Colomb

I think you need to put the pertinent details of it in your question and ask if it's researched and how it is placed with current theory

Put your thinking cap on. If you check out the faq, you will be able to mould it into something that's a good fit for the site

Lakshmi Narayanan

15:45

@YvetteColomb sheds laziness and proceeds to frame a question

Yvette Colomb

cogsci.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-ask

@LakshmiNarayanan exactly! :)

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb Are you an Academic?

Yvette Colomb

@LakshmiNarayanan not in cog sci. I did study it a long time ago and it's a personal interest

I study software development now

what about you?

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb Nice, any recommendations for Introductions to the ~~problem~~ ~~Issue~~ Topic of Free Will?

Yvette Colomb

hm, yeh you have to be careful with that one

not to be too philosophical

there is a philosophy se

Lakshmi Narayanan

15:49

@YvetteColomb I am a grad student in CS

Yvette Colomb

philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/free-will

@LakshmiNarayanan nice, what languages do you prefer?

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb Thanks, but i'm more interested in it from testable point of view.

Yvette Colomb

there is a free will tag in philosophy

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb For Scientific Computing, I swear by Fortran. For the rest i think Python takes the cake.

Yvette Colomb

have a look at these posts for relevant questions on free will here cogsci.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/free-will

@LakshmiNarayanan nice :)

Lakshmi Narayanan

15:51

@YvetteColomb Ah the paucity of it all!

Yvette Colomb

:)

I told you to navigate carefully on here with that topic

;)

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb Haha, yes it is quite the testing waters

Yvette Colomb

well welcome. I hope you enjoy it here

we always welcome new comers who are thoughtful

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb What is your preferred language?

Yvette Colomb

hm I love C and C++ but I program ni C# and java. .Net asp.net/android and xamarin

Lakshmi Narayanan

15:53

@YvetteColomb Well, I'm full of thoughts if that's what you meant ;) kidding aside i have been grappling sloppily with the problem of free will in Gedanken terms whilst trying to stay true to empirical approachability

Yvette Colomb

well I'm sure you can frame a question from that

I need to excuse myself, as I'm trying to get some work done in the wee hours. I will be here, but cannot chat for too long, but will pop in and out

Lakshmi Narayanan

@YvetteColomb Yeah, i will need to sort it out so that it doesn't become speculation and then a question would make sense

@YvetteColomb sure

Yvette Colomb

yes, you seem to know enough about how the sites work and you've been around long enough

just ping me if you need something :)

Lakshmi Narayanan

cool

Seanny123

16:42

I'm early for the meeting, but I just wanted to make sure I didn't get the time wrong accidentally.

Robin Kramer

No you didn't :) i'm just finishing up some chores around the house. I'll join you in a minute

Robin Kramer

16:56

I'm back

Seanny123

Woohoo 1 hour countdown!

Robin Kramer

Oh wow haha, I guess I am at the wrong time. I though 18 GMT would be 19 GMT +1, but apparently I'm +2 due to Summertime :P

cogsci.stackexchange.com/questions/17017/… just proved its relevance haha

Seanny123

haha

Robin Kramer

what time is it at your place?

Seanny123

1pm

I've recently relocated from Japan to Canada

Robin Kramer

17:02

Wow, that quite the change you made

You moved for a job or studies?

Seanny123

I moved for an internship doing deep learning stuff for the Honda Research Institute in Japan. Wanted to see if I could transition to industry. I kind of can, but also don't enjoy it that much?

Robin Kramer

Ah okay. Well at least you know right? Does sound cool working for such a company

Seanny123

It was my second internship with them. It reminded me how important it is to me to not work totally solo.

I need a team. Otherwise, I feel quite hopeless quickly.

Robin Kramer

I understand. Feel the same way (experienced it with my thesis). Just did one thing for over a year, and even though I had coworkers and my professor and stuff, just felt like I was doing stuff alone

So what are you doing in Canada now?

Hi steven and Yvette :)

Seanny123

I'm finishing my thesis now

Robin Kramer

17:14

When do you expect to finish?

Seanny123

A year from now. And then... Who knows? I think I want to do a PhD, but I'm not sure where.

It depends on my partner and what happens with her life.

Robin Kramer

I heard holland is always a good option ;)

Seanny123

I'm considering it. There's a dude doing cool biologically plausible cognitive modelling there.

Just unclear on how the whole immigration thing would work out.

My partner and I are both Canadian citizens, but I don't know if that does us any favours...

mfloren

:) Always wanted to go to Canada...

Seanny123

Please let me know if you visit the Toronto area! I can set you up with room and board!

This is the person in the Netherlands that I'd like to work with

jelmerborst.nl

mfloren

17:23

:D Deal! My wife used to go to a big swing dancing competition in Toronto every year...

Robin Kramer

haha wow

Jelmer was my professor

Seanny123

(I realize Netherlands != Holland)

ORLY?

Robin Kramer

Yeah

mfloren

:o

Seanny123

We recently converted him to Nengo and now he's doing some really cool stuff.

Robin Kramer

17:24

Awesome guy, did some cool stuff with eyetracking and workload with him

Seanny123

(not that he wasn't doing cool stuff before)

Robin Kramer

We should get him on Cogsci :P

mfloren

Wow: thats a cool research line!

Robin Kramer

Nengo sounds really complicated. Is it just a very very very big artificial neural network that holds some biological plausibility?

Seanny123

Nengo is just a tool to build spiking artificial neural networks without back-prop. Spaun is the very big artificial neural network that has some biological plausibility.

We're working on improving the biological plausibility.

mfloren

17:34

30 min!

mfloren

17:47

Do we have to click anything, or does it just start when it starts?

Yvette Colomb

it should just start

mfloren

Ok, thank you

Steven Jeuris

Hi all!

Yvette Colomb

hi

mfloren

Hello!

Chris

17:56

hi

Seanny123

hello!

Robin Kramer

Hi, good to see you all :)

Steven Jeuris

I guess @Josh, @honi and @ArnonWeinberg might still join.

Robin Kramer

shall we wait for a couple of minutes?

Yvette Colomb

yes

Steven Jeuris

17:58

Yup. Until then, we can talk agenda.

Robin Kramer

Sounds good to me

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