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12:16 AM
@BenBrocka it would work fine here or UX. If we can get dibs on it then that would be awesome.
 
Hence my dilemma. If there's no object I'm fine with Cog Sci having it; I'd rather it see an academic research backed answer which I think is much more likely here
You'll have to wait for one of the Cogsci mods to respond in the teacher's lounge though
 
@BenBrocka We need it more than UX does... but it depends on what the user wants. If all they care about is how to design their pop-ups then UX is obviously the place... but if they are generally interested in knowing how to measure typical reading speed, then we are the destination
problem is, the question is kind of in the middle and leaning more towards the UX side
a sneaky-ish thing we could do is migrate the question here, then edit it as soon as it arrives to concentrate on the science with the UX-part just as an after-thought/motivation and not part of the question, and then ask the user to ask a seperate question focused on the UX aspect over at UX with links to the scientific discussion here
 
I was thinking that he might just want to post on both with specifically focused questions on both sites
 
@BenBrocka doubt most users have the motivation for that :P
 
Doesn't hurt to ask
It's been moved:
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Q: How long does it take to read X number of characters?

JoJoI am creating an iPhone app where I need to show transient confirmation messages. For example, when a user submits a comment, I pop up a message saying "thanks for submitting your comment". Shortly after, the message will fade away. There exist many such transient messages all over my iPhone app....

lol.
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Q: How long does it take to read X number of characters?

JoJoI am creating an iPhone app where I need to show transient confirmation messages (called a toast in Android). For example, when a user submits a comment, I pop up a message saying "thanks for submitting your comment". Shortly after, the message will fade away. There exist many such transient mess...

 
12:55 AM
Did he just copy and paste?
 
Well, he at least included a screenshot in the UX one. But pretty much...he just posted it to UX before realizing a mod was going to migrate it
 
I made some significant changes:
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Q: How long does it take to read X number of characters?

JoJoHow does the time needed to read a sentence scale with the number of characters? Or does this time scaling depend on something more than just character count? For example, let $X$ be the number of characters and $F(X)$ the seconds to read an entire sentence of $X$ characters long. There are 3 op...

 
1:32 AM
@ArtemKaznatcheev awesome, thanks!
 
 
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2:27 PM
@jonsca you mentioned that you were going to run with this question for a bit:
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Q: Is there a reduction of "Brain Fog" with fewer hours of sleep?

BradfordI've heard patients who complain of "brain fog" (and fatigue) claim a reduction in "brain fog" (and more mental clarity) when they get fewer hours of sleep (usually less than 5.5 hours). Here I'd define brain fog as a lack of mental clarity, slow and muddled thinking, trouble stringing thoughts,...

when do you plan to reach the finish line? :P
 
I've got the references out so it should be a couple more days, but in the meantime if you have anything to contribute, go for it!
 
That is a long race! You've been running for a month ;)
 
Really, I just want it to get a +1 answer so we don't have to worry about it cluttering the unanswered questions tab
Were you thinking of editing it?
 
I just remembered there was a question somewhere on cogsci to which sleep inertia was relevant
and as I was making my new question
I found stuff about sleep inertia
so I just went back to find this question and noticed that you called dibs
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev Wellll, we both can answer it I'm sure the work you've looked up is different than the stuff I found
 
2:32 PM
@jonsca yeah; you and your neurons!
 
Sleep is awful hard to call cognitive ;)
 
okay, I will call it meta-cognitive then :P
 
Try to explain PGO waves as a cognitive effect ;)
 
challenge accepted!
so I started writing an answer yesterday... but its starting to become a novel
it was around 850 words yesterday and I was probably 1/3 to 1/2 done only
what is too long for an answer?
 
Well, that's okay. Or you can use some of it to ask and answer
(your own)
 
2:38 PM
I was thinking of putting it up as a blog post and linking to it with a summary...
 
I don't know what the official cap is. I thought something like 32K characters, but I could be wrong
 
Wow, just found a study where they kept subjects awake for 64 hours before letting them sleep and subjecting them to a battery of tests
 
(I just read 40K, but I didn't find any official ruling on that)
 
It is pretty hard to motivate most people to stay awake for more than 48 hours
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev Wow, without caffeine or anything I think that would be nearly impossible
 
2:42 PM
Even when I am having a blast writing against a deadline or proving some fun theorems... I still tend to crap out around hour 60
 
Without any caffeine?
 
@jonsca usually just sugar
 
Wow
 
during manic periods like that I usually don't eat much, and don't drink coffee, but I do drink lots of sugar
and by 'much' I mean 'at all'
 
Yikes, well, rest assured you can't keep that up forever hehe
 
2:45 PM
Yes, I noticed a drastic decrease in my ability to do that over the last couple of years
like towards the end of undergrad I could do those on demand with just one day of normal-ness between
but now it is almost an impossible thing to achieve :(
 
Yeah, I never went that wild, but my ability to do all nighters with no sleep afterwards has dwindled
 
@jonsca oh the joy of youth
 
So go ahead and answer that one if you want, and I'll fill in the gaps
 
nah, I don't have the energy at this very moment
need to eat and read some more
 
3:39 PM
I finally left an announcement on the Neuroinformatics proposal to get people to vote for some questions so we can carry the proposal forward. If it goes forward and they're still missing a faction of support, we can talk with them again about joining forces.
 
4:32 PM
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Q: Should we volunteer as a "sister site" for Parenting?

Chuck SherringtonI know that we've talking about attempting to merge with different sites, but this would be different. Parenting has a Some subjects might be on-topic here but you can get better response on our sister sites, for instance: clause in their FAQ, where they include Fitness and Nutrition and a handf...

 
4:57 PM
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Q: Does willpower depend on the amount of glucose in the body?

ChristianHow strong is the evidence for the argument made in Willpower by Baumeister and Tierney? Basically willpower is supposed to be proportional to the amount of glucose in your blood and if you use up the willpower, it takes time to replenish the resource. Robert Kurzban argues in Psychology Today ...

Skeptics? I don't know, the stupidness of this claim makes me not want it here
 
@BenBrocka Yes, I saw
@BenBrocka Maybe.
It's mostly off-topic either way
 
Looks popular enough on Amazon to be a Skeptics Q, "notable source" and all. I think. Not 100% sure on their rules there
 
Unless we operationally define "willpower" as the amount of blood glucose, which doesn't make sense
lol
 
Volition or motivation could be suitable, proper terms to use if this wasn't a question about a dumb book: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volition_(psychology)
As is the argument sort of states that Diabetics have iron wills (not particularly true) and hypoglycemia will give you terrible willpower (sorta true, because you're dying)
 
True, well then he did get the motivation tag right ;)
Oh, I'm definitely with you on the "this is crap" wagon, I'm just teasing
 
5:03 PM
Already flagged
 
Once you get to the level of being renounced by "Psychology Today", it's more than all over
Yes, I may have stirred up the pot by putting a bounty on that silver and gold versions of Proofreader question
 
@jonsca doesn't mean you can't trick a few thousand idiots while you're at it though
But I really don't want to be in the business of dismissing every stupid claim made about Psychology/ect on this site; that's what Skeptics is for
 
@BenBrocka That's how I plan on making my millions
 
Other people's stupidity is the only true renewable resource
 
@BenBrocka No, we can argue about disciplines all we want, but we should be a united front against fringe crap
Except if we move it to Skeptics, we end up getting residual visitors from it hehe
 
5:13 PM
Fringe crap can be on Skeptics, don't really want psychologists, neurolobiologists ect to see the front page of "IS THIS RETARDED CLAIM TRUE?!"
Is there's particular academic research specifically targeting a claim it's maybe okay, but unsubstantiated crap that's just disproved by a general understanding of the topic is too much
 
Yes, this is just too simplistic
and yet so easy to disprove hehe
If anything "willpower" is ATP :P j/k
I can see the headlines now: "LOSS OF LIFE OFTEN RESULTS IN DEATH"
("get rich and bang bitches while you can")
 
5:33 PM
@jonsca apparently Jim Thio asks questions on DBA too (crappy ones)
 
Yeah, those are disappointing on the usual JT scale. Hehe.
 
How can I store my riches in a relational database?
How can SQL make me more good at math--and not the Government Way
 
SELECT * FROM red_star_of_frustration
 
Join on "Pain pain and more pain"
 
 
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7:08 PM
@ArtemKaznatcheev Have you had your willpower today?
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A: What positive techniques can be used to motivate individuals resistant to common gamification techniques?

draksThis is something, I thought about, when I saw my younger sister playing with Pokemon cards. She knew all the facts about every single creature by heart, but failed during tests in school. I can only guess, because I never tried, but I'm sure, if I had put one line of facts on each card, she woul...

(two separate thoughts there, damned chat)
 
@BenBrocka true, we should be migrating things to skeptics all the time :D
@jonsca that made so little sense until I started reading the backlog
 
Read the question, it's a hoot
But not a hot answer on that other question
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7:23 PM
Excuse my use of the chatroom as a sandbox for a second
Hey @StevenJeuris you had a top secret reply in TL
 
@jonsca I know, I'll await further answers.
Going to the cinema now.
I'll give you the power to decide for me. ;p
 
Okay. What?! You don't spend all of your time moderating and working on your thesis??
;)
 
Well .. basically yeah. But I sent in my first draft yesterday.
So I deserve some time off.
 
Yes!!
 
Men in Black 3
 
7:25 PM
I haven't seen it, but it's supposed to be good, I think
 
There you go, temporary CogSci mod powers. ;p
Cya later.
 
Why is this answer not downvoted?
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A: What positive techniques can be used to motivate individuals resistant to common gamification techniques?

draksThis is something, I thought about, when I saw my younger sister playing with Pokemon cards. She knew all the facts about every single creature by heart, but failed during tests in school. I can only guess, because I never tried, but I'm sure, if I had put one line of facts on each card, she woul...

 
That was what I was commenting on above. I hadn't downvoted it yet, though
I flagged it for references
@ArtemKaznatcheev Check!
 
 
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10:34 PM
@StevenJeuris How was MIB3?
Did it motivate any alien or time travel related cogsci questions? :P
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev Shitty.
(Compared to 1 and 2)
They had to go and include time travel.
One does not just do time travel, and get away with it.
Hmm perhaps something related to the perception of time.
I'll sleep on it.
 
haha
@StevenJeuris Have you seen Primer?
 
Awesome movie!
P.s., did Josh migrate that question?
 
It is a movie that does time travel in a pretty fun way
 
Low budget, good story, and well done.
I should actually watch it again pretty soon.
I've been recommending it to everyone, but I forget a lot about it. ;)
Another really good low budget one was 'the man from earth'.
 
10:37 PM
@StevenJeuris I like that one
@StevenJeuris It seems so, and take a look at the answer... it is a surprising one
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A: Does willpower depend on the amount of glucose in the body?

SklivvzYes, there's a correlation and a causation. Here are 9 studies that prove it: The present work suggests that self-control relies on glucose as a limited energy source. Laboratory tests of self-control (i.e., the Stroop task, thought suppression, emotion regulation, attention control) and of...

But I think we still did the right thing by migrating... we are not a site for debunking random correlation claims
although we do a lot of it, sadly :(
 
:)
Nooooo time to read through all that.
Okay sleep well.
Heading to bed early today.
 
Have a good night!
 
11:07 PM
@ArtemKaznatcheev If I had the time, I would delve more into the methodology of those journal articles, as the whole "willpower" bit still seems pretty hard to define.
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Q: What is the timing of information assimilation within a human brain?

Alex StoneA little background: I'm an avid dreamer and have great dream recall, sometimes up to 5-7 per night. In my experience, I can sometimes trace some elements of the dream to an event that occured within a 1-3 day window prior to the dream. I've done similar experiments with the process of idea g...

Might be a good cogsci question
 
@jonsca migrate that badboy!
 
I think we have a similar question, though
but I flagged the one on Bio
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Q: Are topics experienced later in the day more likely to be present in dreams?

John RIs there any evidence suggesting that thoughts or experiences from late in the day are more likely to be dreamed about the following night compared with similar experiences earlier in the day?

So, it's not a duplicate
@ArtemKaznatcheev Now they've posted another one, what do you think of:
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Q: Is there a relationship between the feeling of well being and activity pattern?

Alex StoneI'm not sure how to define well-being or "happiness" in humans. Maybe it can be expressed as some level of serotonin or dopamine within the brain. I can define the activity pattern as what the user is actively engaged in. Has there been any studies on what happens when humans "feel good"? Are ...

I think it's a bit too vague
As I said to Ben, though, they're not going to be too willing to give up questions either. They're not struggling as much as we're struggling, but they're still struggling
 
11:34 PM
I gave in and answered a bad question:
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A: Physiological differences between brains of Conservatives and Liberals

Artem KaznatcheevThe easiest way to work forward from a well-cited article is to do a forward Google Search. My answer is almost completely based on such a search and concentrates on three brain regions: amygdala, insula cortex, and the anterior cingulate cortex; note that all three regions are linked to emotion...

@jonsca I commented on it
@jonsca commented on both of them.
Voting spree time!
 
Nicely answered.
@ArtemKaznatcheev They may end up undone eventually if most of your votes are for certain people
but it's nice of you
 
@jonsca But that is how I get into the site, by following certain people
@jonsca How do you know its me upvoting you? :P It might very well be somebody else on a voting spree, who happens to pause at the same times as I respond in chat
This reminds me of avatar:
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Q: How does the sensitive plant detect vibrations?

J. M.The sensitive plant (Mimosa pudica) is a remarkable little plant whose characteristic feature is its ability to droop its leaves when disturbed: Apparently, this ability to droop rests on the cells in the leaves of the sensitive plant being able to draw water out of themselves through changes ...

 
11:52 PM
Certain receptors have certain ranges, the Ia happens to have a dynamic range about it's current stretch point. It's all there in the answer
 
Oh no! I don't have enough rep to downvote on bio.SE! I need to make a tag-wiki or something
@jonsca That is still a "how" answer
@jonsca an example "why" answer: the slow extension of the knee is much less likely to cause damage, since other muscles have time to respond thus there is no need for a reflex
 
>When you are stretching the muscle slowly, the Ia fiber is not building up a sufficient depolarization to fire off an action potential.
 
You are explaining the mechanism of how the reflex works and that the mechanism for the other reflex asked about is not in place
(so that is a kind of 'why' answer, but really it more talks about 'how' things are)
basically, I wanted an evolutionary answer :P
 
It answered the question. Yes, but I don't care about evolutionary answers in that context
 
I gave you the upvote anyways, just think it is more of a how the reflex works, not why it is necessary/not-necessary
but of course, my approach to why is very naive and teleological
since it assumes our reflexes are optimized for something
 
11:56 PM
Humans have a very strange relationship with their musculature, it's why a 3 foot tall spider monkey can tear a man's arm off
but not vice versa
 
@jonsca what?!
can it really?
and I can't tear off its arm even if you inject me with a huge dose of adrenalin or something?
 
No, because your muscular physiology is designed to keep your muscles within a set length, almost at all costs
 

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