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7:20 AM
Burning down the bugs to be able to launch a huge #WolfLang Version 12...
 
7:51 AM
 
8:19 AM
@ChrisK Extrapolating from the peak, showstoppers should be done in about... eight days. So, no release this week I guess, unless they're all closed in a single drop.
 
@CarlLange #newin13: H(uman)/Link
 
@ChrisK it seems that at the beginning of January they decided to move some features to 12.1 :)
(j/k, I know they are working hard)
 
@Kuba Heh, probably true.
I wonder if all companies developing products (instead of projects) are stuck in sort of pathological optimism on what they can accomplish for the next release.
 
8:51 AM
@kirma Not all showstoppers are of equal difficulty though, right?
Some might be several more weeks :P
 
@CarlLange Of course...
Or a bunch of showstoppers might be just waiting for QA approval of some sort and disappear in one go.
 
9:24 AM
@kirma All I know is, it won't be released on a Friday :D
 
@CarlLange I also noticed that they tend to avoid Friday releases. Maybe in order to have better capacity to do paclet updates or .0.1 releases quicker on embarrassing issues?
(Maybe I'm an optimist on this.)
 
10:06 AM
@kirma I would assume it's just bad marketing to release an enterprise product on a friday
 
10:18 AM
You just don't! :)
 
10:32 AM
@Kuba "Deploying" is a bit different from a software release, though. Surely bracing for download spike can still be a reason to not release on Friday...
I'm a somewhat suspicious of major customers adopting a new major version on the same day as it's released. I think major customers working with software/systems releases I work on have processes which are likely to take several months before a major version of our product is actually deployed in production.
 
 
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2:50 PM
Would anyone be able to check for me if they can reproduce the results of mathematica.stackexchange.com/a/191795/24936 ? Because for me I don't seem to get the same result, I just get an empty list
 
 
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4:17 PM
@user129412 I get the same as @CarlWoll (MMA 11.3)
@user129412 the epsilons didn't copy & paste BTW
 
@ChrisK Thanks! I see that I'm on 10, so I'll try with an actual up to date version as well. Good to know
Yes, that fixed it!
 
 
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6:57 PM
If there was an entire integer release focused entirely on kernel and frontend stability, I would be happy
I've seen the Abort/Continue Waiting dialog about fifty times today
 
7:26 PM
@CarlLange that'd be the dream
But SW would die from boredom
Anyone know how to make the "chat rooms" stuff always appear on the front-page?
 
Also performance...
@b3m2a1 i don't think it's possible, it's rendered on the server-side I think
 
Sad. I hid pretty much everything else but it'd be nice if that appeared consistently
 
7:50 PM
@b3m2a1 Took me a while to find this here:
in case you don't already know about that one
 
8:17 PM
@ChrisK I know about that one. I was wondering about the little box on the front page.
 
 
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10:00 PM
It's a bit weird and unfortunate that you need to watch WTC talks to learn about things like Developer`ToPackedArray. Have just sped up my code by about 4 hours.
 
10:36 PM
@Szabolcs Ah, fair enough, I hadn't come across the ref page before. I heard about it from this great talk: youtube.com/watch?v=_bW186RtMvQ
 
10:52 PM
@CarlLange I'm looking forward to the 12+ NumericArray because I can (hopefully) use it as a wrapper for all my packed array data types to protect them from unexpected unpacking.
Also allows you to control the exact storage type which is pretty nice. And supposedly it'll play well with the compiler.
 
11:10 PM
@b3m2a1 Sounds really interesting. I was a bit sorry they didn't do any livestreams about the compiler, but then I suppose it might all get very in the weeds looking at LLVM bytecode
 
11:41 PM
@b3m2a1 It's just a new name for RawArray, so you can basically use it now in 11.3
 
@Szabolcs I thought they were also integrating it better into Mathematica?
My main complaint with RawArray is the need to cast it back to a packed array to do stuff with it
But I do use it for efficient data passing when I have data that I think will probably not need to be used.
 

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