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1:45 AM
@kuba thanks for 1). Yes for 2) I make something on Mac and they see that when opened on windows
 
 
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3:31 AM
I finally moved from the Wolfram Cloud to GitHub pages for my personal site and just the improvement of the website responsiveness is immediate...
It's actually really dramatic
 
@b3m2a1 this might be why also Wolfram community pages are always slow to respond and open? May be they are using same servers. I do not use Wolfram cloud myself. Tried it once and found Manipulate do not work well on them. This was long time ago.
 
@Nasser nah different architecture
The interface you used was a cloud notebook but I'm just serving static pages
The Wolfram Community stuff runs through the LifeRay API which doesn't seem like it should be awful but clearly is
Maybe it's just poorly set up
Of course they really should have gone for an enterprise version of StackExchange.
But at that point why not just make us more official :)
 
3:48 AM
Here's the first post of the new site: b3m2a1.github.io/simplifying-mathematica-documentation.html
I've stepped up my blogging game. It's even got videos.
One of these days I'll integrate my YouTube service connection to make it possible to export and embed those videos directly in a Markdown notebook but for now I just uploaded them by hand
 
4:26 AM
@C.E. or @Kuba do you know whether the cloud supports 3D graphics well yet? I could imagine creating a little code snippet to export a 3D graphic to the cloud with a set ImageSize and then embed the resultant notebook with the setting ?_view=frameless
Also I moved the tutorial I wrote off the cloud, too: mresources.github.io/tutorial
 
 
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7:49 AM
@b3m2a1 don't have much experience with them, sorry
@b3m2a1 in b3m2a1.github.io/…;, the footer takes around 25% or more of the window height.
In the latter page the footer + powered by w3 footer take around one third.
Chrome on Windows.
 
 
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10:05 AM
@b3m2a1 Afaik Graphics3D works generally well, but Image3D doesn't.
Graphics3D actually has a far higher FPS in the cloud than in local notebook for me...
 
@Kuba hmm that does seem a bit much. I’ll look into that. @CarlLange good to know. That’ll provide a really nice way to embed graphics. I can deploy it without external eval permissions or whatever I figure but people can still play with the image. I really see the use of cloud notebooks as embedded content in otherwise normal sites.
Maybe I should just write a function to turn the current notebook selection into an embeddable iframe...
 
@b3m2a1 communication between parent and the iframe can be a pain. Or rather what to communicate because sending a message is not a problem. But lifecycle hooks for cloud notebook are not documented, nor things like cells contents size etc, and you want this as a parent :)
 
That way I can use it on anything, assuming the cloud isn’t too glitchy.
@Kuba I was imagining I’d just fix the iframe size to the image size on the desktop and deploy to a cloud object
That way I don’t need to interact with my deployed notebook really
But these are all things to be figured out when I finally have the time for this
 
@b3m2a1 then it should be fine. I had a problem with FormFunctions because you can't determine their size before they are typeset by browser.
Nor you can for arbitrary manipulate
 
 
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1:45 PM
@MikeHoneychurch are you sure it was not a .m file? It fits how .m file will handle 2d typesetting.
 
 
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6:16 PM
@Kuba Did that user ever respond to your questioning yesterday? There's a new one today that I find difficult to comprehend the reasoning for - mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/190015/…
@Kuba Ah, I see the question you left your comments on has been deleted and re-asked.
 
6:54 PM
Any information about v12?
 
@yode No, but my understanding is that this DB stuff is basically the last hurdle for 12.
 
7:11 PM
@CarlLange What meaning of your DB?
 
@yode Database - I meant the Database Integration meeting currently in progress.
 
Oh, I'm expect a list about new features.. :)
 
User mathematica.stackexchange.com/users/62316/jklug works on Wolfram's livestreams and needs a little more reputation to be able to post livestream schedules in this chat
 
Have him/her post a question about using WikiData to get an EntityStore :)
@CarlLange two birds with one question
 
;)
I wouldn't have the time to answer it succinctly ;) Perhaps one or two people could give them an upvote?
 
7:24 PM
Well they can post, we can up vote, and you can answer later
 
unless someone snipes me ;)
 
@CarlLange that's when you gotta be confident that your answer is better
And sometimes you're wrong
And sometimes you're right
 
Desperate to post some song lyrics but I don't want to lower the tone...
 
Always lower the tone
That's just a general principle I live my life by
 
7:57 PM
Wow even I am getting frustrated by this Twitch stream...
 
@b3m2a1 Yes, tell me about it
This is giving me heart palpitations
And this must be the 8th meeting on basically the same schedule
Have to say, for all of SW's idiosyncrasies, his ability to context-switch is on a totally different level to anyone I know
Ah, livestream over, now I have to find new things to procrastinate with
 
9:03 PM
@user21 have you thought about creating some kind of MeshFunction object? It'd be similar to InterpolatingFunction but explicitly defined as a function over a mesh of points. This way people could cleanly do things like FD derivatives, transformations, etc. directly to this grid-based function.
 
@CarlLange I am lost, I don't know what's in his head. And I wonder why folks are answering questions where he smoothly, without any explanation, assumes Length[1] should be 1...
 
9:38 PM
@Kuba The fact that his questions can have such apparent understanding and such an interesting domain, but then the code is so lacking, strengthens my thought that they might be homework questions.
 
@CarlLange otoh he asked about ArrayQ in last semester so I don't know :)
 
@Kuba eh maybe he failed the class
 
9:57 PM
I don't know what the best thing to do is - I'm just going to ignore their questions, I think. But they feel weird and the deletion (and re-asking) of the question where you asked for greater clarity seems a bit suspect
 
10:27 PM
@CarlLange if he deletes/reposts again I will act, it is a waste of commenters time.
@b3m2a1 "I think that the function Format has intrinsic an orderless attribute" - he is aware of attributes, understands what orderless does, is aware of Format, yet Attributes @ Format didn't occur to him. I am confused.
 
It's a long shot but I don't suppose anybody happens to know the python equivalent of NestList offhand?
 
@CarlLange Welcome @user612874 in the Mathematica chat. Feel free to talk to us.
@CarlLange Now he should be able to talk.
 
10:43 PM
Ah, you can do it with reduce. Python is so not-really-functional.
 
11:30 PM
@kuba no a notebook. dynamic interface. i added slider labels as subscripts but they convert to that other form (what is it called, I've forgotten) when opening in Windows
 

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