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12:00 AM
@halirutan WE save the ones from africa in the sea,( 5 billions euro/year for the entire operation), while germany pay few hundred of millions.
 
@J.M. As I said, I don't have a solution to this. The worst part is that I may be capable to attack and solve other problems but this whole world crisis is just too complex for me. And even if there was an say acceptable solution the fixes most things for everyone, I'm sure it would hurt the wrong global players and would never happen.
 
if group a does not have any advantage over a group of unknown unidentified economic migrants who travelled thousand of kms to reach not a generic peaceful country but the richest one, what is the purpose of this Union?
 
@halirutan Indeed. When I had the choice between politics and chemistry for my undergraduate degree, I chose the latter. Chemicals are easier to predict than people. XD
@Alucard "not a generic peaceful country but the richest one" - that would be the so-called "Matthew effect" in play.
@halirutan "I'm sure it would hurt the wrong global players" - you hit the nail on the head. If it is inconvenient for the power players, they will actively try to discourage such revolutionary thoughts.
 
@Alucard I don't care about money, I care about the people. Would you say that you are in a better position than a mother with its child floating on the sea with nothing more than what they wear on their body?
They risk their lives for an unknown future in a better country. Would any sensible human being leave their home if war, hunger or poverty didn't make it unbearable to live there?
 
@halirutan that's not the point. germany didn't save anyone from the sea, we save them ( and we are the ONLY nation who save them) we take care of them and when we asked for help france, austria and switzerland closed their borders, poland and hungary refused to accept any migrant, britain..., and germany send back those you didn't like. the european solidarity does not exist
 
12:19 AM
@Alucard What about Operation Triton?
 
germany accepted the migrants because the government was not prepared and it was too late to do anything else. the next year you struck a deal with erdogan to keep them there
 
"The Italian government had requested additional funds from the other EU member states but they did not offer the requested support." - sounds pretty unfortunate.
 
On 23 April a 5-hour emergency summit was held and EU heads of state agreed to triple the budget of Operation Triton to €120 million for 2015-2016.[12] as i said few hundred of millions over 5 billions of total cost
 
@Alucard Your country is only the first one that is reachable from the sea. Believe me, if we don't find a solution to help these people in their country and make it worth living again, we all go down the drain.
But I'm very pessimistic about any solution because hatred and fear was successfully planted in people like yourself.
 
no we go down the drain, the dublin treaty allow the nordic country to take the " useful " migrants and dump the rest in spain, italy or greece. what makes thing worse is that with our history the far left keep screaming racism at every attempt to save the ship
 
12:25 AM
@Alucard In Germany, it's the same and everyone is crying for closing the borders. And although I hate to draw this card, we know a lot about how history can take the wrong turn.
Back then it was people like you and me who got indoctrinated with hatred and it was people like you and me who executed the plan.
 
This is just so wrong.
 
@halirutan To your society's credit, it's a lot more vigilant on those matters now.
 
@J.M. Let's hope this is true in general. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure.
We should end this discussion. If we were able to resolve all this, we shouldn't be here and discuss Mathematica matters. I earlier said "land of the free". The reason for this is that my good friend visited the US recently and on a city tour in LA, he took a different way back to the hotel. He ended up here
@Alucard This is where the people live there. Ironically, they don't even have cars to sleep in.
 
12:52 AM
the u.s. should be ashamed of their income inequality seriously.
 
@J.M. Would you send me an email with your address and the nearest accessible city again?
 
@halirutan It's like that in many European countries too. Doesn't Germany have Romanian and Bulgarian beggars?
 
@C.E. Of course although not in my area. It always hits the big cities.
 
Yes. I live in a city like that, I see them every day.
 
1:14 AM
@halirutan out of sheer curiosity halirutan, can i know how old you are ?
 
@Alucard Yep, old. 37 if I'm correct.
 
@halirutan nah not that old then, i am 29.
 
@Alucard Well, I feel like 22 :)
 
i will stop counting before reaching 30, so i will remain 29 until i die xD
 
@Alucard Yeah, I still wear the t-shirt I got for my 30th birthday that says something like "30 and still horny" :)
but it's so damn comfortable.
 
1:23 AM
i have one question that i never asked here, you guys seems like wizard with mathematica, do you use it everyday at your job or you use it in your spare time? i googled around but seems there aren't many job offers for mathematica developers and icouldn't believe it
it feels so weird
 
@Alucard I'm a scientist and analyse data. I use it everyday officially and for almost all fun projects.
@Alucard We had a discussion recently about the whole job situation and you are correct. Let me see if I can find it.
 
i have a bachelor degree in physics and i couldn't find shit for me , jeez thank god i have a piece of land
 
@Alucard Do you have a Wolfram representative company in Italy which is selling licenses?
 
@halirutan yes i think there is
adata, something like that
 
@Alucard Have you reached out to them? Usually, if they not only sell stuff, they have projects with firms that do use Mathematica.
So they might either be able to help you or even provide you with some consulting projects.
 
1:34 AM
@halirutan uhm i didn't know,i will ask at the campus
 
I don't know if I should be happy or sad that questions for other languages will start leaching into Mma.SE. mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/156051
 
I cannot find the discussion we had in chat, but the essence is that it's far more unlikely to find a Mathematica gig than it is for say Matlab or even web-stuff.
 
Has anyone used NDSolve and FiniteElements to solve Magnetostatic problems with solenoid coils and ferromagnetic materials?
 
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Q: Biot-Savart Law/Magnetostatics Solution

CeolwulfI am working on solving the Biot-Savart Law equation for the magnetic field around a charged ring of uniform current density. The expression that Mathematica gives is rather nasty, as expected. Notice that the limits of integration are not included in the solution. Mathematica rejects the bounds ...

 
which language do you think i should learn together with mathematica?
 
1:37 AM
Hi @Edmund: I did see that but it focuses on an analytic solution and I was looking for a numerical method to include non-linear ferromagnetic materials
 
@Alucard It looks like you are right. It's adalta.it/Pages/Wolfram.asp
I would reach out directly to them. Write a kind email and explain your background
 
@Young Oh. Then nope. Hold out for another answer.
 
@Alucard This is a discussion I can find:
It starts here and most of it is my personal view
Sep 9 at 17:28, by xslittlegrass
@halirutan Thanks for the explanations. Are you using Julia in your daily work? Apart from Julia and Mathematica, what are the other languages do you use daily? I'm starting to looking for jobs and found only knowing Mathematica is very difficult to get a job.
In short, if you are a physicist and you plan to work on this you probably should learn another scientific language. Two open source candidates are Python (easy to learn, widely used), Julia (quite new, fast and currently hyped)
 
1:52 AM
@halirutan i read the discussion, it seems you know every language ever invented ,old sumerian included xD, you are phenomenal.
 
@Alucard I really don't. I never really tried Assembler and know nothing about Fortran. Especially I'm not paying attention to most new things that wouldn't be real useful to me although they are interesting like Closure, Rust, Elexir and many more.
 
 
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5:27 AM
@Alucard, it's always a good idea to be multilingual. You don't need to learn FORTRAN unless you're working with legacy stuff. Otherwise, you could use knowing at least a little C, learn some Lisp (or variants thereof) because it's a nice programming paradigm, and then pick up Python and Julia like halirutan suggested.
(It's entirely your choice whether or not to add MATLAB, but I personally like being able to switch between Mathematica and MATLAB.)
 
@J.M. It doesn't look promising. It seems a package from me to you containing a pc will cost about 700 Euro.
(I searched earlier and as it turns out I remembered your location correctly)
 
@J.M. i was learning matlab but jesus i found the syntax they use so annoying...
 
@halirutan Yikes. Don't do it then. I knew that the customs stuff is the sticking point.
(Thanks for the thoughtfulness, anyway.)
@Alucard It takes a bit to get used to, if you had learned Mathematica before it.
Otherwise, the point to remember is that it was first and foremost a way to express linear algebra as code, so one would usually learn it with a vector/matrix mindset.
 
5:43 AM
@J.M. I'm going to make a careful search tomorrow. It seems our German package distributor is much cheaper and here I really can ask in a local store how this is done. Would it be possible that you get an ATX tower somewhere?
 
@halirutan I'll have to go to the nearest electronics market to check, but I believe I can.
 
The tower which is the biggest part and the monitor are the things I worry about.
 
Yeah, I don't trust the post office with handling LCDs right.
 
5:56 AM
@J.M. if you plan to buy a piece at time i suggest you to start from the ram because the predictions says the price will rise up to 40% tomshardware.com/news/dram-price-shortage-hike-40,35469.html
 
@Alucard see, I'm not current on this, so that was useful to learn. Thanks for the link!
OK, I need to step out for now. Later!
 
bye
 
 
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7:37 AM
Is there anyone around who uses Linux?
If yes, can you try Documentation`HelpLookupPacletURI["FindRoot"] in 11.2 and let me know if it pops up a functional documentation center window with a working toolbar?
@C.E. Once you told me that it'd be useful to have a tutorial included in the MaTeX docs about how to match font sizes between figures and the surrounding document. 1.7.1 has this now. If you have time, can you take a look and let me know if anything needs improvement?
 
8:05 AM
@Szabolcs I would expect to find it under Basic Examples, Options -> FontSize, or Possible Issues. I can't find it there, where is it?
 
8:23 AM
@C.E. It's the "preparing figures to size" tutorial, linked at the bottom of the guide page. I had a really hard time time writing this, and it's probably in great need of improvement.
 
9:03 AM
@Szabolcs I didn't expect a whole tutorial, this is great! I think almost all users will be interested in reading this. I couldn't find any problem during my first read, but I will tell you if I think of something later. There is one technicality, which is that I think the ``<< MaTeX``` cell should be an initialization cell. This is how the FEM tutorials do it, so that if a user evaluates one of the examples it will automatically load the package.
 
 
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12:19 PM
If Text/Inset won't obey their 3rd argument (for positioning), wrap that argument in ImageScaled, and the problem will be fixed.
 
Is there a simple way to use FreeQ for a list of arguments? I have vars={x,y,z}, and want to select terms that don't contain any of them. Select[FreeQ[#,vars]&,list] does not work. I don't know the size of the list of arguments ahead of time.
(I realise that example FreeQ looks for exactly the set {x,y,z})
 
12:43 PM
All I wanted was to write some nice examples for the MaTeX documentation. I ended up sending 3 bug reports, and had to drop half of the examples I came up with.
Bug 1: RandomGraph[{10, 20}, VertexLabels -> Placed["Name", After, ToString]]
Bug 2: Plot[{Sin[x], Cos[x]}, {x, 0, 2 Pi}, PlotLabels -> Placed[Automatic, After, ToString]] (Before, Below, etc. all work, only After fails)
Bug 3: Plot[{Sin[x], Cos[x]}, {x, 0, 2 Pi}, PlotLegends -> Placed["Expressions", After, f]] Surely f should wrap the individual labels, not the whole legend!!
And then the above one with Inset/Test containing Graphics that have FillledCurve don't position correctly.
@KraZug use Alternatives @@ vars to create a pattern
The problem with WL is that it has almost no facilities for robust package development. It's great for quick and dirty stuff, but it's a nightmare to create robust functions. This really shows in the quality of builtin stuff.
Wolfram themselves so do the majority of WL development, they should realize that they need to fix up the language to be more suitable for such tasks!
 
@Szabolcs, works for me on linux.
 
Hi @user21, nice to see you here.
Which one are you referring to?
 
Sorry, Documentation`HelpLookupPacletURI["FindRoot"]
 
@user21 Thanks! That's great.
I needed to know if I still need to include a workaround I had for this problem in 11.1.
The workaround will only check $Version == 11.1 && $OperatingSystem === "Unix" then
 
I am wondering if there are any Mathematica friends in Taipei that may feel like a meeting in person? If so give me a ping.
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@Szabolcs, you mean $VersionNumber?
 
12:57 PM
Indeed.
 
Looks good to me.
 
1:43 PM
New IGraph/M prerelease available. If you use M11.2, please do upgrade. The previous version doesn't get along with the new documentation centre.
 
@Szabolcs, congratulation on a new release!
 
1:59 PM
@KraZug You want something like FreeQ[expr, x | y | z], I think. (It's an abbreviated version of Szabolcs's suggestion.)
 
2:13 PM
@Szabolcs What meaning of your
I have no seen any new function
 
@yode It's mentioned at the end of the documentation page, under utilities. Try e.g. IGExportString[RandomGraph[{10, 20}], "GraphML"]. This is primarily useful with graphs that have properties (e.g. weights). Mathematica does not produce standards compliant GraphML files with the built-in Export. Some other software will refuse to import the graphml files written by Mathematica.
MaTeX 1.7.2 is now available. It includes search indexes for M11.2, but there is no new functionality.
 
@Szabolcs Here?
 
2:30 PM
@yode That's really strange ... What does FindFile["IGraphM`"] say?
 
Stupid mistake..I should restart my MMA after install that paclet..
I can use it now..
 
@yode Also, what does Documentation`ResolveLink["paclet:IGraphM"] say?
@yode Great :-)
 
And similar this..
 
@yode Only graphs are supported at this moment, not matrices or edge lists.
Really, the only purpose is so I can export GraphML that can be read by other systems—*with properties*.
 
I nerve success to use your MaTex
 
2:33 PM
@Szabolcs, thanks!
(and @J.M. for that matter)
 
@yode You need to install MiKTeX, Ghostscript, and it should work. What's the problem you're having?
 
This minimal soft is enough?
 
Yes, because it will prompt you to install missing packages as needed. It doesn't have the required packages, but it will automatically install them when they are first used, if you allow it.
 
You mean I should install the Ghostscript independently after install the Miktex?
 
@yode Yes.
 
2:38 PM
As I remember,the miktex have a compositive ghostscript?@Szabolcs
 
@yode I think I tried that one and it didn't work. I'm not sure. I suggest you install the official gs release.
 
@Szabolcs Any mistake I have made?
 
Try adding the option "LogFileFunction"->Print. What does it say?
@yode Yes, there's a mistake: use pdflatex, not pdftex.
 
That's exciting....
Thanks,I have made it.@Szabolcs
Oh,no,you have made it..
@Sascha Help here
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Q: How to adjust a image as the empty image

yodeAs Vitaliy Kaurov's answer mentioned, anyone can use a method based on Neural Network (NN) to give a try? Then the bounty is deserved. Suppose I have a empty paper like Then I write some text on the paper,then the result paper have been distorted,rotated and translated.like How to adjust...

 
3:03 PM
@yode have you seen image to image translation using adversarial training ? arxiv.org/abs/1611.07004
maybe you can even skip adversarial training and just use a encoder/decoder network to learn to produce the desired mapping directly without adversarial training
 
That,, hard to read..
I always don't know why Chinese researcher have to write English paper..
 
@yode I understand your sentiment, but I for one am happy that english is the de-facto language of choice because it is just much easier to learn than almost any other language
 
@Sascha And I don't very think my question is a translation topic
@Sascha Not always. :)
 
I though one might interpret your problem as some sort of image to image translation where the translation is conditional on the reference image
 
If you just know 3500 Chinese character,maybe you are in university.But if you just know 3500 English word...Please trust me. you maybe fail into your any test..
 
3:14 PM
You have got some reference image A and some distorted image B and you want to find an image translation from B to some B* that is an undistorted image (in reference to A) 
I'd first try an encoder/decoder model where your input is the reference image A and distorted image B and your output for backprop is B*. You would use size-preserving convolutions/deconvolutions in-between input and output.
 
Vitaliy Kaurov say I can use some random image in this comment
@Sascha
 
@yode, what he meant was that you have to have a set of training data where you have A, B and B*
and that you might want to randomly generate such a set if you have a set of only A and B by applying some geometric transformation G to B so that your training set becomes A, B, B*=G(B)
 
4:15 PM
@Sascha That ..confused..Why I will get a black image after the transform..
img = ImageAdjust[
ImageClip[
RandomImage[
TruncatedDistribution[{0, 1}, NormalDistribution[]]] - .85]]
ImageForwardTransformation[img,
LinearFractionalTransform[{RandomReal[.5, {2, 2}], RandomReal[1, 2],
RandomReal[1, 2], RandomReal[1]}], DataRange -> Full]
 
 
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5:39 PM
@xslittlegrass Hi,
 
 
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7:51 PM
Is there a built-in function that clears all illegal characters from a string to be used as a file name?
 
 
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8:52 PM
@Edmund What character would be illegal?
 
@user21 Do you have an example of using FEA to calculate the magnetic field (or potential field) of a solenoid?
 
9:34 PM
@young not what you are looking for, but somehow related (and partially done with our beloved Mathematica):
 
10:21 PM
@Szabolcs It is different per OS. In Windows /, \, |, and others are illegal characters in filenames
 
11:00 PM
@Edmund did you attend BILTIR conference?
 
11:17 PM
@Zviovich Nope. I think that is for life and I work for a cat reinsurer. In any case, I'm would not be the one to go to that sort of conference
 

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