everything else seems ok. 1 thing I can point out is that even though the floyd is staying flush with the body, for the strings to run flush to the neck, I have the high E end of the trem significantly higher off the body then the low E end of the trem. I believe I was that way before I did any adjustment, though

That does not sound at all right. On all the trems I have, be they Floyd Rose or other ones, they are always parallel to the body

so it should be completely parallel in both directions?

why, dude? its a separate thread about a separate topic, since i took the neck shim off.. please, no need to be the thread police

no - nuway, it is a dupe. The question you are asking, and the answers you will get, are exactly the same. I assume you do want help, yes? In which case, this will get you answers.

and yes - I do need to be the thread police. It's part of my role description :-)

whatever man.. don't want someone policing my threads like it makes any difference. Its not a dupe since my situation has changed. Now i have to edit this question because my neck is no longer shimmed nor do I want any upwards motion.

nuway - trust me on this. You may not think it is the same - but it is. You have some major problems with your setup - we can help, if you want help, but we also have our site rules, which you must adhere to. Part of the way this site works is to make sure there is value to others in future - closing off dupes is one of the essential activities.

so why dont you help, brother? the pics are in front of you

hey

Read my answer - your problem is a combination of those points. You are using a crazy tuning, tuning your strings to too high tension, your springs are too loose on the back

so what do you think

im not using crazy tutning

trying to tune it to E

it alwasys had 3 springs

and that worked fine

so why would it need more?

even so

@nuway that is not E tuning

?

how do u figure.

you can run from 3 to 5 springs depending on tension required

It's a bizarre tuning - and is almost certainly half of your problem

it is E tuning (im trying to get)

ok tell me this

E A D G B E is normal tuning

right

and thats what im aiming for

Which is not what you have written at all

not at all

read it again

i said the order of tuning the strings is

E-E--B-A-G-D

not the tuning im going after

? So do you mean you are on standard tuning?

yes?

In that case you are either an octave too high or you need to sort your spring tension

now the two things you can do on tension are:

angle your springs - so instead of 3 parallel springs, make the outside two angle out to the outside spring holes

or tighten the screws holding the spring anchor to the guitar body

ok - explain this to me - in the pics - you can see that the floyd rose is at its lowest (it can't go any lower) - yet action is crazy high

crazy high

even if i put 5 more springs in the back - the action wont change

cuz the trem is at its lowest

does the neck look ok to you?

The pivots for the floyd rose are fine - your second last picture shows the trem sitting at its correct angle. But as per your requirement for more 'up' you can raise the pivots and keep the trem parallel with the guitar surface

i dont want more up anymore

The action of the trem, ie how much it is tipped up in your last picture, shows that the tension is wrong

okay - ignore the up, it doesn't change the problem

but do you see that the action around 20fret is super high

and i can't lower the trem anymore

you are putting way too much tension on - and if you are snapping strings, my guess is you are tuning an octave too high

@nuway you don't need to lower the trem - it's irrelevant

it's the angle

of the neck?

your second last pic shows the action is fine

the neck is fine, the trem height is fine

your tension is wrong

nah man

action is not fine

its way to high

not in your second last pic

thats just the angle

look at the second pic

from top

looks good - what is that 3 mm?

off the fretboard or off the fret?

the fret

prolly 3mm off the top of the fret

thats craqzy high to me

i want it way lower

okay, if you want it lower then, a shim is a perfectly valid way to lower that if you need to - as long as the shim is across the neck fully, so the whole neck is raised by one or two mm

this doesn't affect anything to do with your trem

leave the trem where it is

but what im trying to say

is guitar used to be fine

it was setup super low

without any shims or springs

i took it apart, put it back and now its all off

okay - have you bashed it at any point? from the pics I can't see any major problems that would require a truss rod adjustment

no but i messed around with the truss rod (just experimenting)

Okay - that can change the action height

how

by a mm or two

it affects the bend of the neck

as in how much the neck curves up or down

right now, the truss rod is in its flatters

it doesnt turn any more

hmmm - do you know how many turns you gave it?

a bunch

maybe i broke it i dunno

possible, but not that easy

neck looks flat tho, right?

I've only ever broken one and I was being a complete idiot with it

It does look flat from your picture

yea i was eing an idiot with it too

i dunno. i refuse to take it to a luthier :)

i gotta figure it out myself

okay - there are a couple of posts on truss rods, however that wouldn't have anything to do with your trem going up at that angle

might sound silly but first - confirm you are tuning to the right octave

then have a look at trem springs - I always change springs when I change string gauge

ok

ill check the octaves

it its the octaves, that would be insane

the spring check is really easy to do though - you can play around without taking the strings off

yep

pull back on the trem, and tighten the spring bar

or even pull out one spring end from the trem (or the anchor end) and move it so the spring is at an angle

oh, and do check your string gauge - if the new set is bigger, it will require more tension from the springs to keep the trem flat

yep

i just dont get it

how did Eddie have 2 springs in the back?

he used 9's right?

maybe he had 3

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