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@amWhy I agree!
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@TeresaLisbon "Can't mathematicians discuss without context and so on?"
No.
They absolutely f'ing cannot.
No mathematics exists in a vacuum (except, perhaps, Galileo's thought experiment about a rock and a feather in a vacuum).
It is often possible for educated or experienced mathematicians to infer context and motivation from the very statement of a question, but this is a very distinct idea, and the oh-so-transparent context is likely to be entirely opaque to a neophyte, or a non-specialist.
@XanderHenderson The fate of that question : the user deleted all their comments here, and my last comment was a desperate attempt (but still a correct fact in isolation) to try and elicit some kind of response. We can delete the question.
The "Obama" question, as I'd like to call it from now on.
01:04
I think it adds to searchability
the duplicate is good
I had already deleted it before
but I was looking for the duplicate and couldn't find it
01:47
Okay, I'm out for the night. I need to eat, and get ready to teach again in the morning.
Oh... wait... no classes tomorrow. I need to get ready to record some lectures.
It is going to be a long summer. :(
02:15
For closure: c-i, c-ii
 
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07:01
One more vote needed: d-i
07:15
@Saad: it's gone now
@ParamanandSingh Thanks
 
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gone
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09:07
Offensive posts here
09:17
PSQ to close
@ArcticChar Right after the deletion of the linked post, two of my answers (1, 2) got downvoted. I suspect the downvoter is the very author of the offensive post.
 
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11:25
@ArcticChar: the asker of offensive post is the one who posted the Obama / CIA as context in another question. Really crazy!!
11:46
@ArcticChar I'm happy that my mother is not around. (I mean, she is alive, but will never see this chat!)
@TeresaLisbon Hi, if you have something new, come into Martin Hopf's room.
@Peter Not yet, unfortunately : the llr for 200 is still running, all the candidates are failing! I'll inform you when a prp is found.
A proof that $\pi!$ is irrational is probably out of reach. If it is rational with $\frac{p}{q}$ in the lowest terms, $p$ and $q$ must have more than $5\ 000$ digits.
@Peter That is crazily high! I wish there was a heuristic argument, but I guess it's THAT far out of reach that we don't have anything more than the numerics to run with.
Extended to $10\ 000$ digits (I used the best-appr command in PARI/GP based on the continued fraction expansion). I think, we have in fact nothing more than numerical evidence. Irrationality proofs are usually extremely difficult.
@Peter But proving that it is transcendental is way harder, am I correct?
We can expect this. But if even irrationality is out of reach, this is hard to say.
12:19
Delete this question eventually I looked at the other page regarding the similarity of attempts : but I feel that it doesn't make sense because the author hasn't pointed out where they went wrong while following that approach.
(I wrote some comments over there , because I don't want the usage of other posts' attempts to create attempt-based context to become a precedent).
There's a user flooding edit queue with minor grammar edits: math.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/1608768
12:42
Is it coordinates or co-ordinates?
@TeresaLisbon Do you have a free window to search small factors with GMP/ECM of very large numbers ?
@Peter Unfortunately not , but for a different reason : I have to do some ODE plotting , so those guys are running simultaneously with LLR, and Python , even though it takes less CPE than others, still takes enough to heat my laptop above the 45 degree threshold, which is supposed to be very dangerous. So I must be careful : once the ODE plots finish I'll let you know.
12:57
OK
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13:58
@soupless In modern (American) English, it is "coordinates". If you want to be a bit of a ponce, "coördinates" is also correct. But very few writers of English use those lovely diaereses. :D
I guess it is like email and e-mail. Thank you.
(Off-topic, but is it just me or the font size increased a little?)
15:33
@soupless I thought it looked weird on main - smaller, and a bit like Times New Roman. But I figured I was just remembering it incorrectly.
@user1729 Oh. I just thought that it became something like 'wider'.
@user1729 Oh, by the way, the font size of the editor text also increased.
16:13
@XanderHenderson @XanderHenderson @soupless you can use co-ordinates still in British English as well. And also Xander's diareses, though people might wonder if you've arrived recently from the early 1900s :)
 
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@postmortes I am trying to get people to re-adopt the dieresis for double vowels.
Even to poodle??
and reed? @Xander?
@soupless Perhaps because of this? – We are switching to system fonts on May 10, 2021
18:02
@amWhy No. The dieresis indicates that the second vowel is pronounced as a separate syllable.
@XanderHenderson I pointed out words with double vowels. So you are now making your former statement qualified?
@amWhy I was thinking of speech, not writing.
"Reed" doesn't really have a double vowel; there is only one vowel pronounced there.
@XanderHenderson I fully understand that now, but you overgeneralized in your first comment. Thank you for "more context" that should have been included in that first post. ;P
Until I find a handy key I can click to do that on my keyboard, I'm sorry I'll likely disappoint.
@amWhy opt+u, [vowel] on my keyboard.
A little clunky, but not terrible.
Just gotta get my hands to coöperate more better.
You've got a silly apple, do you know how it works on other keyboards? I don't have an opt key.
@XanderHenderson ;D
18:14
@amWhy It is actually the Windows key on my keyboard.
Says "opt"? I have Ctrl, Fn, Alt.
@amWhy No, it has four little quadrilaterals on it.
The one between [ctrl] and [alt].
Ohhhh, that! I though it was a Windows key, but never knew it had any use. So do what keys to I press, in order, or simultaneously, and do you mean to type vowel or the sequence [vowel]
@amWhy It likely won't do anything useful on a Windows or Linux box.
But I have it plugged into my Apple lappy.
So it behaves like the "option" key, which is used for accessing certain infrequently used symbols.
Such as ™.
@XanderHenderson >:P
18:20
([opt]+[2])
@Xander Saad's post, starred and linked on the right hand column is indeed a problem. After their post, I encountered seven suggested edits from the same suggested editor, that merely capitalized the first letter in the title of a question, and other minor edits.
I'll have a look.
 
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My guess would be that this question about common roots of polynomials z^n-1 and z^m-1 is a duplicate (@BillDubuque?)
^ I found a possible duplicate target, perhaps someone with more experience in that field can check it.
 
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Hello, @Teresa! You might find an email now, but no rush!
@amWhy Thanks : Another day, up before 4:00 IST , I smell success!
@TeresaLisbon I hope you're now getting to bed early enough to get some good sleep! ;-). That's usually when I start my day, too.
@amWhy Yes, I go to bed usually around 9:00-9:30 IST.
@TeresaLisbon Sounds good. But every once in a while, you need to let yourself sleep in, no alarm clock, waking when you awaken on your own.
@amWhy That's very difficult for me, primarily due to work pressure. But yes, in some sense, I'd be very happy to do that on an occasional weekend.
22:39
@TeresaLisbon Yes, in this day and age, it becomes a rare "luxury", but it can really help stave off stress overload.
@amWhy True, it is definitely a luxury, an indulgence of sorts! If anything , though, I just think having a schedule in place is going to be very helpful at the moment. I needed to get a few things together : just like the coronavirus peak here in India, I hope my peak has gone as well (not completely : my grandmother still needs about 4 jabs of the rabies vaccine, and visiting the hospital each time is going to really take away my time!)
@TeresaLisbon Yes, I've heard the Rabies shots can be an ordeal.
@amWhy That's true : I've had 10 of them as well, and they aren't painful, but after so many visits and jabs in the same place one is just overwrought! I still hope the peak is gone, though. Life is difficult, it really is.

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