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13:09
@aminliverpool If you have an issue with a deletion, your recourse is to post about it on meta. Reposting something that has been community or moderator deleted is not allowed, nor will making demands in chat help. Make your case on meta. If the community finds your case agreeable something will be done.
13:43
@aminliverpool - as an outsider to the Math.SE community, I think you might benefit from learning a bit more about how Stack Exchange sites as a whole operate before you jump to conclusions about the behavior you are observing. I understand your concern about noble ideas, but the down voting is quite certainly because people actually disagree with you
even with no background in Math, I would expect that if I was active on the SE, I would downvote both of the meta questions you posted. The one about a university is simply trying to turn SE in to seomthing it is not well suited to be. It would be a bit like trying to term wikipedia in to a Q/A site
it isn't the intended function of the site, so people don't like the idea
even if the idea is a nice one to exist somewhere
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People? You mean the 1%?
on the issue of bulk up or downvoting. Those kinds of actions are fairly well monitored and are unlikely to be occurring. On the "congratulations" posts for example, they aren't duplicates because they are celebratory posts for individual users who reached major milestones and lots of people are excited about that. It is similar to meta posts about the results of moderator elections
they aren't duplicates because they are about different events
as for site questions, I have no idea without examples and knowing more about the site, but the most common issue is that either the question isn't clear enough or is too broad to answer well in the context of a Q/A site
given your desire to see more of an online university, I suspect the most common problem you are seeing is the latter
there really is no 1% except for perhaps the fact that a relatively small portion of the people visiting the site bother to vote at all (relative to the number who end up here to get an answer to a single question from google and then go about their business)
there is no 1% of active membership of any SE site I know of that dominate it and certainly if they were using voting patterns, it would be detected. SO actually does have to sometimes deal with VTC groups going around and doing things like that, but it demonstrates that kind of activity can and is detected and dealt with fairly regularly
@aminliverpool no I mean general site users
the active stack exchange community has a culture similar to the way wikipedia does. I think you may just be missing a couple of aspects of how that culture works and what the network's goals are
I'm saying that as a complete outsider, just based on the issues you are mentioning and the issues I've seen a few other people run in to when they come in really excited with big ideas of ways to "make SE" better that have been thought about before. You might benefit from reading around Meta.SE which has answers to a lot of things about why the scope is kept rather limited. It's similar to the concept behind wikipedia. The idea is to be a searchable resource that gets answers quickly.
that means that some questions and topics aren't well suited to the format
most of the people here, particularly answering, want to share information, but it's a question of how we can do that most efficiently in this venue and a lot of that has been very heavily discussed and even tested out
on one site or another
anyway, I need to get going, but I hope that helps give some perspective on what appears to be happening to an outsider that is familiar with SE in general
14:13
@aminliverpool If you want to have a respectful conversation where everybody plays by the rules of the network and you listen to people that try to explain how SE works, then you can try again tomorrow.
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For the moment you seem only interested in being disruptive and aren't listening to the people trying to help you, so take a break from the keyboard for a while and use the time to think over whether you want to participate on SE for what it is. Maybe read up on some of the help sections and meta discussions.
you may also want to consider that you are not the 99%. You keep saying that, but this is a relatively democratically run community. Action is taken when users become disruptive and there are some basic ground rules setup by the company that runs the network, but Meta exists for democratically discussing ideas. If you don't like the fact that the vast majority actually disagree with you (as seen by both the lack of many (if any) upvotes in meta as well as...
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the lack of affirmative comments in your chat, it should be quite clear you are a brand new 1% trying to impose your ideas on the 99%
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that's disruptive, it isn't people trying to keep you down. It's you pushing too hard on a community that listened to what you had to say, but politely turned it down
I'd suggest you atleast try to find a couple of other people who agree you are being mistreated before you consider this crusade of yours. Make sure you aren't chasing windmills
15:03
@Caleb To be fair to this user, this room was created specifically to discuss issues related to closing/reopening/deleting/undeleting posts. (As one additional channel aside from the reviews and meta.)
So it kind of makes sense to ask about undeletion here - but without some reasonable boundaries.
@MartinSleziak true, though in general the issues he's running in to are more things that would involve having to change site behaviors to re-open, which is more a meta topic since chat doesn't involve more than a fraction of the userbase of a site
where as meta (atleast in theory) has a much broader audience
but I get what you are saying too
this is a good place for discussing why there are issues given the current meta though
15:51
@MartinSleziak That is precisely why I only deleted the advertisement post to the MSEU chat-room.
I left all the other inquiries and discussions about closure/deletion here.
Yet personally I have absolutely no issue if the other owners of this room wish to delete more of the protracted comments that are neither beneficial to future readers nor worth keeping.
 
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19:21
365496: Prove $7|x^2+y^2$ iff $7|x$ and $7|y$ and 723739: How to show that $7\mid a^2+b^2$ implies $7\mid a$ and $7\mid b$? They seem to be basically duplicates to me. (One of them is equivalence, but one implication is easy.) Close? In which direction?
To me it seems that 365496 has slightly wider variety of answers.
I'd say that merging would lead to duplicitous answers.
19:42
We have several posts about Jensen's functional equation. Should some of them be closed? Merged? Which seems to be the best candidate for duplicate target?
Some of the answers to 16946324 seem quite nice to me.
 
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22:23
@MartinSleziak I've looked over them all, and I do think 16946324 is the better of the posts, all in all, especially given all the answers there. Though I also think that 1850101 is asked well, and there's an answer there that I think should be retained. Perhaps a merge of those two questions? Or a merge of all the upvoted answers with the most relevant question of those asked for which the answers are all relevant.

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