@Sam You want Endura Hummvee shorts

@AndyP and what about cafeducycliste.com/fr_fr/men-shorts-virginie-black.html for an understated look?

they look really nice, but damn they are expensive!

what’s the point of those shorts? Is it just about style?

because somehow people think that tight pants are not manly enough?

@AndyP Yep. @Sam Another brand to consider: Decathlon (didn't mention earlier because I though they were not selling apparel in Canada, but it's in fact the case, the MTB shorts are discreet as well)

(the pockets for the MTB shorts are however not specially handy when not used on a bike: these shorts typically don't have the "traditional" pockets, so just the combo wallet/phone/keys is not so obvious, there's only one pocket big enough for the wallet+phone, and the keys pocket only works with smaller key sets, and you need to open/close the zippers every time — the zipper of the cargo pocket is vertical when standing, not horizontal)

I don't see a point in bigger shorts that look like regular clothes for short distances at slow pace. Just wear regular clothes.

For fast, sweaty commutes I wear bike kit and change at my destination. I want to wash myself anyway. Regular shorts and shirt over bike bibs and base layer is also an option. That stuff fits into jersey pockets.

I don’t like sitting or walking around in bicycling bib tights because they are uncomfortable, I don’t care about looks

There were cases where I cared about the looks but accepted discomfort.

But usually I simply go to a toilet and change.

this. Shorts+T-Shirt fit in a bottle cage

Two valid cases, in my case, the "regular looking biking shorts" can also be used as "regular shorts" during the day - without padding. And having an e-bike, I can also take the bike without considering using as a sport, so why not also having shorts that look normal, but are more comfortable when riding.

@Erlkoenig I think you are talking about the fact that radial loads (up-down) and angular loads are different things. I think that standard cartridge bearings tolerate radial loads poorly, but there may not be many of these on a bicycle. That said, there are some, and you can actually buy angular contact bearings, e.g. from Enduro. I think cup & cone hubs are inherently angular contact.

This might be worth a question, but it may require engineering expertise to answer.

needle bearings are the best

the old bike I recently took care of had angled needle bearings in the headset, very fancy