The Whiteboard

12:58 AM

This is not really an answer, not so much because it's a comment, but because it's a question. It seems too opinion-based to be asked on this site, though. Perhaps you should check these pages and see if one of these sites would consider it a good question: programmers.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic dba.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic — Dan Getz 47 secs ago

Jimmy Hoffa

You suggest a "web developer" should know a lot of things that frankly, web developers neither do often know, nor need to know. These expectations are wrong, the only person you'll get to meet them will be a very strong senior level engineer, or - more likely - someone who managed to lie to you without you knowing it. Generally you'll want at least two developers to fulfill that broad spectrum of front and back end technologies. Anything else and you're going to get someone who's lying or out of your price range. — Jimmy Hoffa 27 secs ago

I almost CV'd but I'm unsure... "Is this list of skills an acceptable bar for a Web Developer?" actually seems like a straight forward answerable question...maybe too opinion based?

At first glance I thought the Q definitely is no good - it does need editing for clarification of the question so it's succinctly asked, but thinking on it, I'm not sure if it's no good or not..

user55340

1:26 AM

> Sharepoint
Salesforce
ASP.NET / Java EE
Oracle, Mongo, Hadoop, Citrix (Which I understand are not all relevant to one programmer at the same time.

user55340

I, as a web developer, fortunately do not touch Sharepoint, Salesforce, ASP.NET, Mongo, Hadoop, or Citrix.

user55340

The key is the ability to learn how to deal with these technologies when they are called into the domain of the problem - not to say "yes, I am a master oracle programmer and I also do Load balancing and Hadoop..."

Jimmy Hoffa

2:03 AM

@MichaelT yeah, only people who really don't understand the stuff go around trying to hire engineers and expecting they all know all those things in depth. Hell finding a single programmer who knows SQL with the slightest depth at all these days is tough as hell.

We coders that know our way around an RDBMS well are a dying breed..

Heck it's a rare person that knows all the front-end tech described above and has much ability in designing and implementing a server well. Lots of people have all those skills in a very shallow manner because that seems to be what we breed for now, but the guy in his question appears to be asking for depth across all of those things.

@Ixrec pretty certain the correlation is an inverse relationship, despite commonly held belief...

Duga

6:08 AM

"Stack Overflow is a question and answer site for professional and enthusiast programmers". As currently written, your question doesn't fit the criteria of this site. Please read this page : stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic. — Kaiido 14 secs ago

Duga

7:57 AM

Questions like these belong on the Programmers StackExchange site. — Jamen 16 secs ago

@Mat, not if it's poor quality like this, but but the general scheme of the question seems to fit a lot of the questions I've seen on Programmers.SE — Jamen 1 min ago

@Jamen: programmers.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic. This type of question is explicitly listed in the "not to ask" part. They even have a specific close reason covering it. Just don't suggest Programmers unless it is a high quality question that really does fit. — Mat 19 secs ago

Ixrec

10:34 AM

@JimmyHoffa I think a major part of that discussion was whether or not it's direct or inverse; I agree it's definitely inverse but not everyone felt that way

Ixrec

10:53 AM

the fact that programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/286508/… now has 14 different answers seems a bit concerning

Duga

12:32 PM

Perhaps a better fit for programmers se? — Frederick Cheung 38 secs ago

overexchange

1:38 PM

Can somebody help me provide the resource link(videos) that covers good course on java multithreading?

user41796

@Yannis - In reference to this request, please see evidence A and evidence B. I've been out this past week, so not sure if some other conversation was had. But I would imagine those edits ought to be made by a mod.

Telastyn

@overexchange - I don't mean to be mean, but from what I've seen, I don't think that multithreading is something you should be dealing with yet.

overexchange

2:15 PM

@Telastyn you mean, it is too early for me to work on java multithreading?

Telastyn

yes.

without a solid foundation, it is likely to be exceptionally difficult.

overexchange

solid foundation about?

Telastyn

programming, Java.

overexchange

ok

user55340

Multithreading and concurrency a tools within Java that are rare to actually need. The problems that they are needed to address are not ones that you will likely deal with unill you are working on much harder problems than you are dealing with now. In 20 years of Java, I've had to work with it once.

overexchange

2:17 PM

ok

user55340

And then it wasn't "I am spawning of a new thread" but rather "there are other threads doing things that I have to program defensively around"

Telastyn

I've only used them a few times outside of games.

user55340

In the one Java game I wrote, I didn't have to deal with it (it was turn based)

overexchange

@Telastyn I agree with you.

@Telastyn But when I am fit for this topic, Do you think this topic list is good to be comfortable on multithreading?

user55340

Hmm... Randall is learning Javascript apparently...

user55340

2:25 PM

colors.rgb("blue") yields "#0000FF". colors.rgb("yellowish blue") yields NaN. colors.sort() yields "rainbow"

overexchange

@MichaelT am comfortable in javascript now, i think, it is easy language for people who know list and dictionary. am also clear with the memory model of javascript): It took two weeks for me to understand the stuff

Telastyn

@overexchange - that plus a few months of actual coding, sure.

overexchange

actual coding on multi threading? I am investing 2 months for java programming(DS& algo using java) and all language features.

Telastyn

it'll be hard to learn multithreading while coding non-multithreaded code :P

user55340

One can sit and pontificate about writing code. Study it and such... but until you deal with a 10k SLOC project or larger it really doesn't amount to much at all.

user55340

2:32 PM

You're learning to swim without water...

user55340