Sorry, but this one has annoyed me for some reason. Can we get a collective quick close on this question? programmers.stackexchange.com/q/181741/53019

@GlenH7 Already did

Calling Java a simple language compared to C#...

really?

excuse me while acquaint my face with a wall.

In my mind there are two languages you should be learning if you want OO principles only Smalltalk and Io

@WorldEngineer - agreed. I normally don't down-vote answers to crap questions, but for some reason that one really just set me off.

@YannisRizos - thanks for the quick close (catching the extra vote, natch) on that one

Simple for one person may not be simple for another

minimalism is more definable

I do believe Thoreau had a quote about that.... :-)

@GlenH7 I prefer Saint-Exupery's version but to each their own.

@Walter WAT

that explains a great deal...

@Walter - was that a Goma? Definitely in the right vein

<---- isn't over 10k yet so I don't see the add'l details.

I see the roll-in now, yes

wasn't there before when I refreshed and saw the close

Is that the P.SE equivalent of a rick-roll? Being goma'd?

goma piled?

there's an idea for a contest, who can ask the most mind bleedingly inane question...

@Walter yeah, I just think of the poor kid who's name is Goma and wants to use his name and might well be the next John Carmack but never makes it because of this lout

What I really don't get is "why?" The amount of persistence shown .... for soooo little benefit. The impact must be seriously magnified in his / her eyes.

@GlenH7 there is a whole cottage industry within academia analyzing often bizarre online behaviors

@Walter or just pick math and do Linear Programming ;)

then he'd even be able to get a job

@Walter I kind of want to have us collectively generate a "Programmers.SE" language that we sucker the people who ask the "what language should I learn?" questions.

actually no

I've got one that's even better

appropriately enough originated as a sort of a marketing ploy

@WorldEngineer - that's effin brilliant... Can't think of a more canonical answer. Now, could that be floated as a question without being horribly dog piled.... ?

@GlenH7 the generate our own language or use English as the canonical answer?

"What elements should (must?) a programming language have in order to be considered as THE language to learn next?"

@GlenH7 people willing to pay me to code in it

Don't know if I should float that one on my own or as CWiki instead.... Part of me thinks it would be brilliant. Part of me thinks the down-votes would be horrendous

Meta

@GlenH7 meta can't kill your rep

and it's kind of a site question anyway

@YannisRizos any opinions on our evil plans?

nah, gotta go main with that one....

I think Yannis is crazy enough to suggest rolling it out on main too...

@YannisRizos - seriously? That's pretty lazy. What's the point when you get to that stage. Surely he knows the IP(s) are being tracked. so why bother with such an obvious route? I mean, "duh", of course the IP is still being tracked

@Walter he's probably enjoy that

if we were to do a Programmers Programming language we'd have to really spend some time optimizing a decrement operator.

@YannisRizos that actually makes a sort of sense

@YannisRizos - there may be some truth to that. For someone to remain SO (pun not intended) persistent in such petty mischief, there has to be an additional motivator. The simple "tweaking" of the audience would have played itself out a long, long time ago

it must be kind of fun to be a professional troll

While it may not necessarily be an SE employee (and probably isn't!), I suspect that Goma is someone who either was or is very active with P.SE. That would be the only way to judge the effect of the grenades they throw into the community. If I had to take a swag, I would guess they aren't happy with the changes that came about from late '10 to early '11 in shifting the site's focus.

that's a shame. There are so many more interesting religious wars to fan the flames of than ASP vs. PHP. Actually, that's not even in the top 10 of the ones I would pick.

@GlenH7 yeah

@Walter - that's why I kind of think he / she is or was active P.SE'er. It's really the only explanation that also explains the persistence.

@YannisRizos not to be confused with Morons who is quite intelligent

itching to hit 10k so I can see more of those details....

does goma ever log into chat then?

@GlenH7 not enough rep

@GlenH7 we can see deleted questions but nothing like IP Addresses and the like

@walter - Itching to hit 20k then .... <sigh>

Although there is an election coming up.... :-)

@Dynamic why are comments floats?

@Dynamic - w00t!!! I made the front page (again!). Cool query. :-) I'm totally not shocked at ElY's numbers for the year. He's been on a roll.

@Dynamic - and was that a sneaky way of pulling our google accounts, presuming we were logged in?

please don't spam me. :-P

@Dynamic I second that

why?

@Dynamic comments are second class citizens by design

@Dynamic on what? I'm generally leery of metrics

they can be useful but they have to be done correctly and carefully

it's very easy to do bad statistics

@Dynamic and what about quality over quantity? should a user be less valued because they have occasional profound insights over continuously mundane ones?

@Dynamic I do think more participation is good. However, I'm not sure that doing a leaderboard is a great idea. This could turn it into a contest and decrease the total overall quality of the site.

@MartijnPieters That accepted answer (if its the one I'm thinking of) is rather frustrating in its misunderstanding of why normalize.