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4:02 AM
@ArcticChar Actions which target specific users are not permissible.
The mantra is "content, not users".
If you believe that you (or some other user) is being targeted by any kind of action on the site (closure, deletion, voting, etc), you should select a couple of the targeted posts and flag them for moderator attention, explaining the situation.
 
@XanderHenderson Well things become complicated when the targeted users also produced lots of low content materials.... (No I don't have anything/anyone to flag, thanks)
 
 
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7:05 AM
@XanderHenderson I totaly agree with you "The mantra should be "content, not users". Unfortunately I see that in CRUDE, on which you are an active user, this mantra is not followed at all. Could you plese give a specific advice on that, notably to @Jyrki and @BillDubuque. I'm referring notably, as an example, to this and this.
@ArcticChar The point raised now is: submission for deletion is allowed (sometimes with targeting and name calling to specific user) but submission for undeletion is not allowed. I think we are loosing the principle for a balanced and fair regulation.
 
 
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1:29 PM
@user Read what I wrote above. If you believe that you are being targeted, raise a flag. Pinging me in the Mods' Office is not going to do anything productive.
That being said, I would note that @BillDubuque was trying to help you. He was pointing out that your behaviour could be perceived as vote marshaling. He was trying to warn you that such behaviour might be cause for a suspension.
Regarding Jyrki Lahtonen's comment, it might have been phrased more politically, but the comment is in keeping with many comments that he has made in the past, i.e. deleting marginal questions in order to remove reputation from high-rep answerers who answer before searching is a reasonable action, as it sends a signal to those answers that their behaviour is inappropriate.
The point is that your actions are the kind of behaviour which should reasonably be curbed. It isn't about you; it is about your actions (actions = content).
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2:17 PM
@user Please give some evidence to support your claim that targeted deletions are allowed. I am not aware of anything analogous to your massive self-targeted undeletion requests in GENTLE, i.e. I don't recall anyone posting massive numbers of posts all including the posts of one user (with a (hardly believable) disclaimer that that user is not being targeted) If I saw that I would raise the same objections.
 
 
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6:27 PM
@XanderHenderson the "answer before searching" it's because it is a duplicated?
if so, why not just close them as [duplicated], instead of deleting them ?
 
7:19 PM
@XanderHenderson Is now slandering a way to help? That's nice to know. Note that I've just requested a clarification to moderators here in order to have, if possible, also some advice from them on that.
@XanderHenderson I would say "polite" instead of "politically". I understand different ideas but promote punitive deletion targeted to specific users is really a violation worst of any answer given to the worst question. I see that we have different views on that.
@XanderHenderson My action here discussed is to submit in a dedicated room deleted questions to other users which can evaluate whether them deserve reopening or not. I can understand that this action doesn't like to users which have promoted deletion, it seems obviuos to me. What I can't understand is why submission for deletion is good and submission for undeletion is a violation. This view seems so unfair to me.
@BillDubuque Refer to the late anathemas from @Jyrki released on CRUDE.
 
@ellisaba The can be closed as duplicate, then later deleted. Being closed as duplicate does not exclude the possibility of deletion.
There is sometimes reason to keep duplicate questions, e.g. if the new question makes finding the old question easier, or if there are answers to the new question which genuinely add something new.
 
@ellisaba Indeed for duplicates well posed or improved with good answers also in my opinion this should be the proper way to handle them. Deletion should be deserved to very poor questions with very poor answers without any effort from users to improve them.
 
However, if a duplicate question adds nothing of value to the site, there is no reason to keep it around, and deleting such questions (hopefully) sends a message to the answerers that they should spend more time searching, rather than writing answers as quickly as they can.
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@user I agree that deletion should be reserved for poor questions with marginal answers; I would add that if a question has been closed as a duplicate, then the question needs to pass the additional hurdle of providing something novel (either in terms of database organization, or in terms of a novel answers).
If a question is a duplicate and all of the answers attached to that question are duplicates, then the question should be deleted.
 
 
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9:10 PM
@XanderHenderson Another solution to handle such duplicated questions is editing the title of those questions. Why not instead of thinking about delete this think about edit the title of this question so that will help to find old questions easier
 

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