@JourneymanGeek sure! Do you want me to post something or would you prefer to?

@Zanna If I was gonna, I'd do it :D

@Zanna You mod closed this question Ubuntu 22.04 download failure stuck on log out page yesterday as not reproducible, however I had a similar problem in Ubuntu 22.04 and I independently found that the OP's self-answer also worked in my case. I don't like the downvoting of this question by skeptics. Please reopen this question.

@karel what was the fix? OP's answer seems to say that "chang[ing] start up options" from a live system solved it... but what options? changed from what to what? Can you improve the answer?

OK, I'll see what I can do to improve the answer.

thank you very much!

I've reopened the question knowing that you will do a good job

You can review my edit to the OP's self-answer. I've been there myself, so I know what the relevant screens look like.

thanks... at least it looks better though the content could be more specific. It is an answer though.

sorry for wrongly closing the question instead of considering the merits of the answer properly

I should have been more ready to discount the introductory "SOLVED the problem. DONT KNOW how"

:)

@JourneymanGeek well, I have posted something

thank you for the encouragement :)

@Zanna Thank you! I was planning to post this... and you have done a better job than I would have :)

Thanks go to Journeyman Geek

The question doesn't really flow

what do you exactly mean by "flow" in the context?

@Zanna thanks @JourneymanGeek

I mean the flow of one thought to another

the last paragraph is like being woken up and confused

idk

@Zanna lol, I ask myself that every post I write lol

XD

May I take a crack at it?

please go ahead

done

oh yeah, that's better, thank you again!

also, and I'm totally throwing shade here

Its better to try to figure out what in a system is broken, and work to fix it, rather than complain about people not looking up obscure/obscured bits of things on a page of not all that much consequence

forests, not trees so to speak

well, it may be that one person needs to see the tree so that someone else can take a look and realise there's a forest

I'm a slow thinker

for example I've been thinking about my friend's office where many of the staff are way more interested in stirring up or spectating interpersonal drama than doing any work

there is one person there who just comes early, does his work, and leaves late. The drama refuser.

there are some kinds of meta question that seem more intended to generate interpersonal drama than to further any other goal

most people seem to enjoy drama, even if what they enjoy is complaining about the drama

we enjoy hating on the drama haha

idk

David Foster Wallace said something in a footnote somewhere about how maybe there are parts of ourselves that are better left unfed

I value that insight!

@Zanna Thich Nhat Hanh often said that within ourselves we have many seeds. Seeds of anger, happiness, sadness, hate, love... it is our choice which seeds we water.

that is an excellent expression of what I want to mean to say <3

but I have one more nagging thought... generating drama may not be a worthy goal, but preventing drama is also not a worthy goal... all too often it is used to justify shutting down debate or a challenge to power

@Zanna drama for its own sake is bad

you can always question, but the end goal is important

@JourneymanGeek yes, because people get hurt

@JourneymanGeek yes indeed. I think one should be able to answer the question, What kind of answer/result are you hoping for?