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12:08 PM
Hey people!
What's your opinion about SO being bought by Prosus?
 
@RandomPerson Its too early to tell
 
hmm..
 
They have a wierdly familiar portfolio and... no obvious presense of their own
 
Please welcome our Oranje overlords.
 
@jokerdino what's the meaning of 'Oranje overlords'?
 
12:17 PM
throws an orange @RandomPerson
 
@JourneymanGeek Prosus has invested in Byju's. I do not have a good opinion on Byju's. WhiteHat Jr is very weird..
 
@RandomPerson I guess the question is how hands on an "overlord" they are and how well they support the companies they own
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A: What does the recent sale of Stack Exchange mean for the community?

Journeyman GeekWhen I first saw this - the first thought that came to mind was.... "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." yes, I'm a Babylon 5 fanboy While this is a very different context from its source - we've been in a time of fairly constant change, and this is a big...

 
@JourneymanGeek hmm..
 
> "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
 
12:36 PM
@JourneymanGeek My condolences...
 
@Fabby in what way?
Also you should recognise the quote :D
 
I've been both on the receiving end (being bought) and the gifting end (buying other companies), and it's never good.
@JourneymanGeek I did!
 
@Fabby I don't work here
 
12:39 PM
@JourneymanGeek No, you're the product!
 
More or less
But I'm also mainly here for my own amusement
 
Yeah, I still use SE to upvote if a Q or A is helping me, but that's about it.
(And only if it comes up on Google)
 
 
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1:48 PM
@JourneymanGeek P.S. Worthy starring my condolences reply because not everyone will be aware of the news yet...
 
2:14 PM
@Fabby \o/
Hello mate!
<3 <3 <3
 
@Benny Benny!
How are you doing nowadays???
 
Not much, this COVID kill my job
 
So you're unemployed like me?
 
But I will be okay, Good to see you mate! how about you? :)
 
3:09 PM
Still looking for a job.
@Benny Sorry, stepped AFK
 
 
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5:12 PM
oh mate :), I wish you good luck in finding your next job, and I wish me 2 :D, I love to see you here my man.
 
 
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8:31 PM
@Benny Well, as I'm not running Ubuntu any more, but Manjaro, I hardly ever come here...
(Oops, should be sleepy time for you...)
Shouldn't have pinged you...
@ThomasWard You still East Coast?
 
8:51 PM
@BeastOfCaerbannog ---^
 
9:13 PM
was pinged
@Fabby East coast US you mean?
yes
17:13 atm
 
@ThomasWard Yeah, you're right: could have been East coast of Africa or Russia as well...
 
yup
you gotta be specific ;)
'course Russia doesn't have a 'west coast' so xD
but yes, i'm eastern USA
 
@ThomasWard Yeah, tried finding you on LinkedIn and couldn't...
Was just wondering what you're up to nowadays...
 
yeah my social media is hard-locked at the moment
details are not being shared
(all social media is 'invisible' right now more or less for me)
@Fabby usually i keep my Launchpad profile up to date with Ubuntu involvements
but still doing IT Security so :p
 
@ThomasWard On my system all cookies are blocked and known bad actors are blocked in the hosts file...
(FB being one of them, LI not so much)
 
9:17 PM
yep well i intentionally shut my profiles from public view - again, reasons I"m not at liberty to discuss atm
 
I wasn't asking...
 
LI, FB, Twitter (main profile), etc. are all 'meh' in terms of visibility (either invisible or you don't have much info from me)
but yeah i'm doing that for a little while
still around ,but busy with work stuff so not here in chat as much
 
Remember: I used to live in Germany and publishing your house on Google Streetview is opt-in over there!
 
heh
 
I have an LI presence because:
1. I'm looking for a job
2. I've always had a customer-facing role in my entire career. @ThomasWard
I wish I could do the same as you, but alas, not feasible.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
9:24 PM
@Fabby Hahahaha!
 
@Fabby yeah, well, I don't use LI for recruiting, and i'm not looknig for a job at the moment so, i'm in one of those cases where I can hide myself temporarily
 
@BeastOfCaerbannog No I don't speak Greek, except ναι, όχι, λεωφορείο, ταξί, καλημέρα, καλησπέρα, ευχαριστώ, γιασού μαλακα ...
And the last one makes even 75-YO women LOL...
Oh and παρακαλώ !
@t3ln3t Oops! Sorry!
Pressed the wrong button!
 
@Fabby no problemo :)
 
PS.S You don't look old enough on your avatar to have 20 years of *nix experience...
When did you start? 8???
;-) >:-)
 
I began with linux in 1994 and have been a daily user since
professionally since 1997 (i.e. someone pays me to maintain Linux systems)
 
9:34 PM
I started with *nix in 1991 but my first distro was something called Xenix...
(which no one has ever heard about nowadays)
AFK. BRB
 
el OH el. I remember Xenix! Micro$oft's UNIX variant. I had some Digital machines running that once upon a time. They always 'forgot' the default route for some weird reason ...
My favorite UNIX variant is still Solaris, however I had some good fun with IRIX as well over the years
almost nobody uses commercial UNIX anymore. It's all been Linux for the last decade or more.
 
9:57 PM
I only used Solaris once in 1992: to transfer a customer's system onto a new Sun he bought.
 
SPARC hardware used to be fun to use and push to the limits.
 
(He originally bought the Sun from my company before I joined and before Sun even has a presence in that country, so his old clunker was a direct import from the US of A)
 
1992 must have been the VME based Sun machines or an early pizzabox?
or the shoebox/doorstop Sun machines ...
i.e. IPC
 
The old machine was from the middle of the 80s and he got the new WS at a 60% or so discount if he was willing to give up his old clunker which became a ...
(thinking of correct word)
Not demo machine but display machine? in Sun Belgium's reception area.
>:-)
It was definitely bigger than a shoebox.
 
This is how I use Sun hardware now
some plants need full sun, and this is where they sit
 
10:07 PM
@t3ln3t Oh wow!
What HW revision was that?
 
The W1100J. Sun's first Opteron based workstation
 
Ah... The old clunker I was talking about was this one:
Sun-3 is a series of UNIX computer workstations and servers produced by Sun Microsystems, launched on September 9, 1985. The Sun-3 series are VMEbus-based systems similar to some of the earlier Sun-2 series, but using the Motorola 68020 microprocessor, in combination with the Motorola 68881 floating-point co-processor (optional on the Sun 3/50) and a proprietary Sun MMU. Sun-3 systems were supported in SunOS versions 3.0 to 4.1.1_U1 and also have current support in NetBSD and Linux. == Sun-3 models == Models are listed in approximately chronological order. (Max. RAM sizes may be greater when third...
 
ah yes. the early Pizzabox machines
my first personal Sun machine was sun4m SPARCStation 5
 
Good times...
 
I foolishly tried to use RedHat Linux 4.2 on it until a Sun employee saw that and gave me a NiB copy of Solaris 2.5
 
10:11 PM
Last time I handled Sun hardware was in Sept 2019...
 
for me it was 2010 :(
 
@t3ln3t Can only find a PDF file of the model I handled: X5-2
 
everyone started running to Linux after the Oracle buy
 
(only the hardware, didn't get to boot it myself)
@t3ln3t I worked for OCI (Oracle Cloud Infrastructure) for 3 months...
 
I have not been able to use any of the Oracle hardware. I did get to use some of the Fujitsu PrimePower hardware briefly however
 
10:16 PM
Nice!!!
 
I almost went to work for Sun in 1999 but chose not to
it was so frustrating! You had to get licenses to activate CPUs!!! Sun never did that and I had 105 socket SPARC machine for a time
the M8000 needed licenses to activate CPUs
 
Yeah, don't talk to me about Oracle: I've seen the joint at the inside, and at the time I joined, I thought I could become a fan, but in the end had to confirm that everything they say about Oracle is true and I should never have joined them...
 
everyone has a job like that at least once in their career ...
say what you will about OCI, but I've never heard of them having an entire region fall over. maybe they just don't have enough big clients to be impacted when it does? IBM Cloud failures you hear about ... AWS region failures you hear about. Azure failures you hear about.
 
One of the reasons is the solid HW they're running: Sun all the way for everything.
 
Sun hardware was always rock solid IMO
even when everything else was dying because the A/C plant was out, the Sun hardware kept on pushing bits and bytes
especially the Netra gear!
 
10:24 PM
Yup: The Sun X-3 ran like it ran the first day, but the guy wanted "a new machine as it was time to change after habing run it for nearly 10 years"
 
you don't see that much in x86
 
@t3ln3t Yup!
The density in one of the DCs in EU was so high, the DC provider couldn't pump enough cold air it to keep the T° SLA and they had to do crazy shit for OCI.
 
my first week on a telco job, I installed a pair of Sun E450s. a decade later, before leaving that employer, I decommissioned those systems. Not only was I the last person to do anything administrative on them, they had over 10000 day uptimes.
 
Holy moly!
 
Not the best situation (I believe patching is a good thing) but they kept running despite a few HDD failures and served customer traffic without missing a beat
 
10:27 PM
I've seen 4-digit uptimes, but never 5-digit ones...
 
I broke the rules to take a screenshot of that uptime. :P
 
I think the largest uptime I ever saw was 1000, not 10000
(OK, maybe 2000, but definitely not 3)
 
personally, I think uptimes like that are a sign of very very bad administration and lax policies.
someone isn't doing their job
 
Yeah, You're right!
>:-)
Anyway, it's later for you than for me and I need some sleep!
 
get some rest Fabby
 
10:29 PM
Καληνύχτα!
 
 
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