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Q: Can't access internal network but Internet

I have a strange problem with one Ubuntu-system in my network. As well as some other Linux-boxes it is located in an internal network in IP range 192.168.1.x with full access to all other systems in this network and with access to the internet via a separate firewall (IP/Gateway 192.168.1.1). Al...

Fabby

7:26 AM

What ~~the hell~~ is happening here?

First @muru got banned and now @ravexina

:O :O :O

Am I next???

;-) >:-)

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i have tried access vm from host machine. i can successfully ssh to vm but when i run scp it execute but result not reflect to vm machine. scp -v basic.sh root@192.168.56.101:/ Executing: program /usr/bin/ssh host 192.168.56.101, user root, command scp -v -t / OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu...

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Videonauth

7:48 AM

@Fabby muru got banned? for what?

Fabby

@Videonauth I dunno: he never said why and then we just drop it.

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby If you ever get suspended, you will know why you were ;)

Videonauth

i saww him editing today O_o

Fabby

(Meaning: we don't ask the mods if the user doesn't want to talk about it)

@Videonauth It was 2 weeks ago.

Videonauth

@Fabby oh ok

mhmmm

Fabby

7:50 AM

@JourneymanGeek If I ever get suspended everyone will know: I have no problems saying I'm an idiot!

(and what I did wrong and why and ...)

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby more that you get a mod message

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek I hope I get pinged too, because I'm more in chat than on gmail!

Journeyman Geek

alas no

Fabby

gMail is for sending messages, not actually reading them

Journeyman Geek

This could be a FR ;)

Fabby

7:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek FR?

Journeyman Geek

you would actually get a notification I think?

feature request

ArtOfCode

@JourneymanGeek for mod messages, aye

Journeyman Geek

But but

If you're a regular

we try very hard to let you know you're being an idiot.

Politely even

Zanna

haha :)

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek :D :D :D

I know: You did a few times already that I was taking my wicked sense of humour ~~a bit~~ OTT.

But I'm talking about:

A mod would
1/ create a private chat room

2/ send me a SE message straight into my SE inbox

before sending an email message, right?

@JourneymanGeek @ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

7:59 AM

nope

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby nope

ArtOfCode

we send a mod message

that gets you a notification on-site and copied to you via email

nothing in chat unless we do it manually, which is rare

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Fabby

:phew:

Journeyman Geek

We can't chat message everyone we suspend

Fabby

8:00 AM

ok, so no FR needed...

I read my SE inbox more often than my mail (unless I'm looging for a job)

Journeyman Geek

hah

Fabby

Can you send me a mod message without suspending me?

Journeyman Geek

I have the app for notifications

@Fabby for science?

No ;p

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek Yup.

@JourneymanGeek Ah...

Journeyman Geek

I don't think even we mods do it ... unless someone did

which some mods do.

for science

A mod message is the Sternly Worded Letter of the SE world

One does not lightly send a Sternly Worded Letter.

Fabby

8:03 AM

@JourneymanGeek Not even a SWL saying "test"?

Journeyman Geek

ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY SEND Strongly Worded Letters

blade19899

> "... [in] compliance with PCI DSS requirements, HIPAA guidance and NIST guidelines" - SSLScan of eurobytes.nl - htbridge

Fabby

Ah! a lot of work!

No worries!!! I know what I need to know already anyway...

blade19899

Kinda proud of that ^ :D

Fabby

@blade19899 reading...

blade19899

8:05 AM

@Fabby Yaay

Fabby

@blade19899 Woohoo! A+

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby that you arn't suspended?

I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT.

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek :D :D :D

blade19899

@Fabby You can get that pretty easily. Its the "... PCI DSS requirements, HIPAA guidance and NIST guidelines..." parts that were somewhat challenging.

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek Maybe post a FR for a UI to suspend oneself after having passed a test.

>:-) ;-)

blade19899

8:08 AM

When Ubuntu 18.04 updates to OpenSSL 1.1.1, I'll update the conf to use to TLSv1.3 .

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby actually, I had a user request suspension

I told him I'm not his parents ;p

Fabby

@blade19899 I know: PCI is the hardest if you do process credit card information Easy if you don't...

@JourneymanGeek :D :D :D

We've kicked @SergiyKolodyazhnyy out of chat a few times because he had to study...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, one of my users - I'll do it

but he's a kid.

ArtOfCode

PCI compliance is easy: run it through Cloudflare and then match their configuration

Fabby

(before we knew every chat ban has a non-expiring number in the DB)

Journeyman Geek

8:10 AM

@ArtOfCode ah.

Actually

mozilla.github.io/server-side-tls/ssl-config-generator

is a great way to easily configure SSL

ArtOfCode

Intermediate isn't PCI compliant, though

Journeyman Geek

oh I went with modern

Most of the stuff I run's for personal use anyway

htbridge.com/ssl/?id=L7hZqk8T

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek Didn't know you were French! ;-)

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby MY SERVER! SHE IS THE FRENCH!

Fabby

(French IP address)

Journeyman Geek

8:13 AM

@Fabby I run it on online.net

Its cheaper than local options

ArtOfCode

My server's in Virginia, but I'm not USian

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek Oui, oui, your serveur responz to the ubiquitous sudo arrêt -h maintenant command!

@ArtOfCode British, right?

aye

@ArtOfCode AWS? ;p

@ArtOfCode Scottish?

8:15 AM

@JourneymanGeek yup, us-east-1

@Fabby warm, but no

Fabby

I thought "aye" was more of a Scottish thing, and if I'm warm; it must be Northern Ireland, because Wales would be cold...

Meh, could still be Northern England too.

(No need to say anything!)

Journeyman Geek

I was temporarily bristolian

ArtOfCode

@Fabby TL;DR: I'm all over the place :P

primarily Welsh/English but you can trace me to Scotland and NI too

Fabby

Hah! Like me: lived in Belgium most of the time, France, Russia, and now Germany...

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek that is a cool place :)

Journeyman Geek

8:18 AM

It is

ArtOfCode

the result of which is that I can do a convincing accent for any of them

Journeyman Geek

Someone told me it was the strangest city in the UK....

Zanna

I am right now drinking fake coffee out of a large mug with Bristol on it

Journeyman Geek

with a great amount of pride

"fake coffee"

._.

Zanna

from an awesome workers co-op that took all the unsold china from the collapsed Stoke-on-Trent porcelain companies and decorate it haha

Journeyman Geek

8:19 AM

I approve of the mug.

Not of the fake coffee ;p

Fabby

@ArtOfCode I can do a nifty "somewhere between Oxford and London" accent as I used to speak proper Queen's English, but have worked with people from around London quite a bit, so they shaved off some of the sharp edges of my BBC English.

Journeyman Geek

also its sad that local industry collapses :(

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek it's roasted chicory, barley, figs etc... it's not really much like coffee, but some people use it as a coffee substitute

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna eww chicory ._.

Fabby

Ah. Was just going to ask that.

Journeyman Geek

8:20 AM

I nearly disowned my dad for buying coffee that was mostly chicory

Zanna

haha it doesn't taste like chicory though

Journeyman Geek

THen my brother bought skimmed milk

Zanna

shrug

Journeyman Geek

HE HAS BROUGHT DISHONOUR UPON MY FAMILY

Zanna

caffeine gives me the shakes

Journeyman Geek

8:21 AM

@Zanna Its ok as long as there's no coffee in it

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek XD

Fabby

My grandma used to brew a chicory-coffee mix...

ArtOfCode

@JourneymanGeek has anyone ever inflicted upon you the horrors of the supermarket-brand "1% fat" milk?

Journeyman Geek

@ArtOfCode I think this stuff is something like that

ArtOfCode

ew

Journeyman Geek

8:22 AM

I threw in some powedered milk so my coffee did not brew in vain

since we actually have decent coffee at the moment

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek yeah :( lots of manufacturing has died in the UK

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna Singapore has very little but I try to support them

Fabby

Lots of manufacturing has died everywhere in Europe!

Zanna

:)

Journeyman Geek

(I do need a new chair at some point ;p)

Waiting for something to fail on this first

and there's a local company that makes very nice gaming oriented chairs

Probably made in china but still ;p

Zanna

8:24 AM

my milk is very fatty thanks to the almonds/coconuts/hazelnuts/cashews that have been milked to produce it

3

@JourneymanGeek oooh

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna secret labs

Zanna

I actually don't have a chair of my own... I work at the dining room table which is used for no other purpose, apart from supporting cookbooks I'm working from

Journeyman Geek

My desk is the old dining table

my previous desk was a tabletop I salvaged from an old office + ikea A frames cause the old legs collapsed

Zanna

it's a 6 person table and it's more than half covered in my cookbooks, Tamil textbooks, notebooks, scrap paper, pens...

@JourneymanGeek :D

I love reusing

Journeyman Geek

We didn't throw out the A frames, we put another table top when... erm

it bowed from the weight?

Zanna

8:26 AM

lol

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna lol

I was poor

blade19899

@Fabby It was just a challenge for myself! Don't do anything special on the server, just wanted to challenge myself xD

Journeyman Geek

Didn't have a job, and managed to salvage a PC (and spent a little on getting it running ;) )

Zanna

nice :)

Fabby

@Zanna :D :D :D Starred!

Zanna

8:30 AM

I used to live with a guy who would collect old computers anyone was throwing out

man that place was full of junk :S

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna I love working with hardware ;)

and I really needed a desktop of my own at the time

Zanna

yeah, lots of fun

even I built some PCs in those days

Journeyman Geek

I've been clearing out a lot

Zanna

2003/4

Journeyman Geek

oh, that was a very long time ago ;)

Zanna

8:31 AM

that guy introduced me to Linux

Journeyman Geek

But hasn't changed that much

eh about the same time I was messing with it ;)

amusingly a girl introduced me to linux

wasn't a hardware geek tho

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek yeah, the technology was in much the same form as now haha

Journeyman Geek

I've been doing computer builds for the last erm...

22 years now? ;p

Zanna

I generally don't mess around with stuff I might break irreparably, which means I miss a lot of leaning opportunities I guess

the awesome thing about software is you can break it and reinstall haha

I'm pretty clumsy!

Journeyman Geek

oh so am I

Zanna

8:35 AM

@JourneymanGeek you must be pretty good at it by now :D

Journeyman Geek

naw

only can really do it every 5 years or so

so I mostly relearn everything again

Next build is soon? Waiting on the 9th gen intel chips first

Zanna

maybe Intel will make a better Linux driver for those chips :/

Journeyman Geek

Well, I'm ok with windows

my current box may go linux ;)

Zanna

sure, just dreaming

Journeyman Geek

well, intel has always mostly treated linux ok

but I wouldn't throw linux on a gaming box

linux is for actual work ;)

\o/

Zanna

8:39 AM

@JourneymanGeek yeah, I got that impression too, but I think Bristol is a little light Brighton, another place popular with radicals and marginalised folks, especially LGBT*

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna It was also just strange and had a lot of charecter

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek lol

Journeyman Geek

I was in uni there. So I wouldn't really meet that sort

Zanna

what is it that gives a place character, I wonder?

@JourneymanGeek haha what? uni is where all the radicals are XD

Journeyman Geek

UWE, did computer security

everyone was pretty boring

Zanna

8:41 AM

hahaha

Journeyman Geek

The other local uni tho

had a kickass science building

Zanna

oooo

I only went to Bristol once, but it's one of the very few places in England I would bother to visit again given the chance

Journeyman Geek

Wills Memorial Building

The Wills Memorial Building (also known as the Wills Memorial Tower or simply the Wills Tower) is a Neo Gothic building designed by Sir George Oatley and built as a memorial to Henry Overton Wills III by his sons George and Henry Wills. Begun in 1915 and not opened until 1925, it is considered one of the last great Gothic buildings to be built in England.Situated near the top of Park Street on Queens Road in Bristol, United Kingdom, it is a landmark building of the University of Bristol that currently houses the School of Law and the Department of Earth Sciences, as well as the Law and Earth Sciences...

Zanna

(Wales is awesome though)

Journeyman Geek

also go find the HMV dog ;)

Nipper

Nipper (1884–1895) was a dog from Bristol, England, who served as the model for a painting by Francis Barraud titled "His Master's Voice". This image was the basis for the dog-and-gramophone trademark, one of the world's most famous that was used by several audio recording and associated company brands, including Berliner Gramophone and its various successors, affiliates, and successors, including Berliner's German subsidiary Deutsche Grammophon; Berliner's American successor the Victor Talking Machine Co. (later known as RCA Victor and then RCA Records); Victor's Bluebird label; Zonophone; Berliner...

Zanna

8:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek :O

I gotta say that building is pretty hideous

Journeyman Geek

._.

Zanna

bu nonethless cool as a science building XD

Journeyman Geek

ADMITTEDLY

I am a fan of brutalist architecture but...

Zanna

hahaha

what I love in the Gothic is not the aesthetic

it's the feeling of the maker

cathedrals like my local, Lincoln

Journeyman Geek

Pearl Bank Apartments

Pearl Bank Apartments (Chinese: 珍珠苑; pinyin: Zhēnzhū yuàn) is a high-rise private residential building on Pearl's Hill in Outram, near the Chinatown of Singapore. As the tallest and densest residential building in Singapore when completed in 1976, Pearl Bank Apartments was one of Singapore's pioneers of high-rise, high-density living, and influenced urban development in Singapore and other cities in southeast Asia. == History == === Development === The Pearl Bank Apartments was the first all-housing project to be undertaken in the Urban Renewal Department of the Housing and Development ...

this is my favourite building ever

and we're losing it :(

Zanna

8:45 AM

were built by craftspeople who could each bring their own vision and skill to the work

the Gothic is human

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna Indian temples are often still built like that.

Just a different aestetic ;)

Zanna

in a way neoclassical architecture is absolutely not

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek yeah! and I like the aesthetics there much more than the Gothic

Journeyman Geek

(to each their own, as far as architecture goes ;) )

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

8:46 AM

@Fabby tbh I'm considering another suspension for myself lately

Journeyman Geek

Actually an old family friend was a authority in temple layouts

Zanna

what I value in all made objects is the connection to the maker

Journeyman Geek

(cause there's a lot of science there)

@Zanna and the stories

Zanna

yes, abosolutely

whether I like the look of it or not is another layer of appreciation

Fabby

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Don't! Because of this

Journeyman Geek

8:47 AM

So our local temple had a statue that was found under a tree, No one knew who left it there... and after a few hundred years,... well poor chap fell apart

Zanna

oh no haha

@JourneymanGeek I enjoy that too!

Journeyman Geek

a broken statue was traditionally disposed of (but apparently they hid the reminents) and decided to get a big nicer statue.

They ordered one at a sculpter in india...

and when they went to pick it up... it split...

dude went "You should try this guy in another town"

they walk in, and... guy's got .. a statue already made...

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek I like the building, from what I can see

Journeyman Geek

so, ya, they got that one in and installed it.

Zanna

hahaha...

Journeyman Geek

8:49 AM

@Zanna The thing people forget about brutalist architecture is its meant to be functional for people

Its not just designed to look good, but to be used.

Fabby

@Zanna hah! I used to make my own motherboards!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Fabby I know, I know, suspensions add up and stuff. I don't wanna loose the account. Just saying that because I lurk on site too much. Not so much in chat lately.

Zanna

wait what counts as Brutalist? Who named it? I am not au fait

But I read some of Le Corbusier

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

And just generally occasional mood issues

Zanna

people like that were visionaries, they just wanted to make the life of the common people better

Journeyman Geek

8:50 AM

@Zanna brutalist is actually from the french béton brut or bare concrete

problem is a lot of folks confuse that with those crappy buildings that various "communist" authoritarian governments put up

Zanna

how could they know that super high density housing would destroy community rather than creating it... they didn't know enough about psychology

but the real problem was that the builders were interested in profit, not in the common good

so they used cheap materials like Le Corbusier said (because cheap materials means we can build a house for everyone)

to build poor quality housing

Fabby

@Zanna It worked in Sweden, but they built a "Utility room" that is common for all flats...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

alright I'm off to bed

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek ahaa

Fabby

Also: any repair work needed being done is advertised internally first before being handed out externally.

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Good night!

Djeez! If you're going to bed now it's what? 04: AM???

Journeyman Geek

8:54 AM

oh

stateofbuildings.sg/places/german-french-singapore-institutes

I used to go to a school in those buildings.

Fabby

So if you're a bit handy, you go drill holes into your neighbour's flat or you're the one cleaning all the stairs, or ...

and the other residents pay you for you doing it.

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna well, you can build high density housing "humanly"

You build up but not out for example

Zanna

yes

Journeyman Geek

lots of public spaces in the building

Zanna

oh

Fabby

8:55 AM

@JourneymanGeek That's the Swedish way...

Journeyman Geek

The problem is of course

Zanna

I think the optimum is medium-high density

Journeyman Geek

people see empty space and go

LETS BUILD MORE THINGS!

Fabby

Or "Let's park our bicycles there!"

AFK BRB

Journeyman Geek

ugh

Bikes!

We currently have a rentabike epidemic

Zanna

8:56 AM

I find it frustrating that most people don't seem to consider architecture political

same way they don't consider transport political

Journeyman Geek

Well, I don't ;p

Oh transport is very political

How would I put t

the forest (indivudual buildings) are not political.

The trees (urban planning and renewal) is

There's some exceptions of course

Zanna

@JourneymanGeek bikes? I love bikes...

Journeyman Geek

@Zanna well...

there's a half dozen companies doing 'dockless' bike share services

bikes get abandoned, destroyed, parked illegally in places they should be....

Zanna

oh right!

that sounds awful

Journeyman Geek

Ya

Zanna

9:01 AM

@JourneymanGeek very cool, looks like Leeds uni

Journeyman Geek

Well the business model relies on the bikes being cheap and disposable

and using the deposit to try to fund operations

but but one company took the deposits (to the tune of 13 million) and ran

Zanna

D:

Journeyman Geek

Ya

Docked bike sharing is brilliant IMO

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek Bicycles are like shopping carts:

Journeyman Geek

and you can have "virtual" spaces for parking them (which is something they tried with yellow boxes)

@Fabby funny thing is we have a application for complaining to the authorities...

I report shopping carts

Fabby

9:06 AM

Everyone takes them at the entrance of the store and abandons them at the end of the parking lot

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby or home

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek :D :D :D

Journeyman Geek

I've reported... 2 this month?

Complained about illegally parked bikes once

They make it SO easy to snitch ;p

Zanna

haha that's good

@JourneymanGeek yeah :) big success in London

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