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I was feeling old today... work is crazy with overtime, spinning wheels and getting nowhere. I'm thinking of quitting or putting in for a transfer to Vancouver Warehouse or Montreal Software department.

Fabby

so is spring coming to Alberta?

ah!!!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Haha... God has cursed the weather since January.

Fabby

Do you get paid for overtime?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah I'm hourly Warehouse Receiver.

Fabby

Well, I worked till midnight yesterday from 09:30 AM and I got zilch for it...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:55 AM

You should charge your client $145 USD / hour then add in expenses at receipt cost + 10% :)

Fabby

Nature of the beast: some companies are getting rid of people, other grow like crazy and need overtime to keep growing...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah our company got bought out and new software and procedures and tons more products.

Fabby

Well, I don't charge the client directly...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Tell your boss you want half of billings.

Fabby

Yup... Been there...

We're a cost centre...

no direct client billing (which I'm trying to change, but the boss is reluctant as that means more work for him)

/shrug

I don't understand: cost centres get cut first when the growth stops...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:58 AM

When you bill by the hour the client becomes more focussed on helping you get your job done efficiently.

Fabby

I know: that's how we did it in my previous company:

100% day, 150% evening / early morning, 200% at night

150% Saturdays 200% Sundays

cumulative!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

One of my clients back in the day said I should charge more for evenings and weekends but I just had a flat rate.

Fabby

so 400% for a Sunday night...

yeah...

OK ...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah when you bring the system down to install vendor updates and merge custom code into it they always want you to work weekends.

Fabby

I should probably go to sleep

3AM.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:00 AM

Yup... I should probably watch a movie or write a bash script :)... Have a good night Heir Fabby!

Fabby

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yeah, part of the industry

You mean Heil?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

sounds like "hare"

Fabby

Nazi salutes are actually illegal in Germany

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yes I know...guilt

Fabby

also calling someone a Nazi as an American woman found out the other week...

... when she called the customs officials "a bunch of Nazis"

Thomas Ward

1:02 AM

and on the road where i live? If you act as a nazi or a neonazi or have any kind of nazi-like views, you could end up with a very angry, well armed mob.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Lots of people will label corporate fascists that these days.

Thomas Ward

just saying.

Fabby

thrown in the airport slammer for 24h and sent back.

@ThomasWard in PA???

How come? Large Jewish population?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Now Fabby if you want to talk about weird weather, Thomas can tell you about PA this last winter ;)

Thomas Ward

@Fabby on this road, yes.

Fabby

1:03 AM

Cool.

Thomas Ward

also got a WW2-era family at the end of the road, too, so that probably helps to make the mobs, well... more mob-like.

Fabby

I had to work with an American Jew on a German project and he was actually afraid to travel to Germany.

When he told me and I guffawed and explained to him that...

... Germany was probably safer for a jew than Israel...

... he came over and was amazed.

(at no one giving a crap whether he was Jewish or not)

Anyway... I need sleep!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

People need to understand that what Israel does isn't what all Jews think, Just as what Pentagon or US deep-state does isn't what all English speaking people think. By the same token people have to understand that not all Germans are corporate fascists recovering from Rheimer Republic FIAT currency collapse with knee-jerk reaction of invading other countries.

TheXed

hi

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ Speaking of corporate fascists Donald-Bad-Hairdoo just announced joint US+UK+France bombings of Syrian people. As if Libya and Iraq wasn't enough. Full Dominance Spectrum or something they planned in the 90's.

hello Xed. LTNS.

Thomas Ward

1:13 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix for very obvious reasons I'm going to say that let's switch topics to something more... neutral.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ThomasWard Actually I'm going to write an answer on Application Indicators. Fabby should never have started the N-Word discussion. CIAO.

TheXed

1:34 AM

Speaking of switches, how many ports does your switch have?

Thomas Ward

2:21 AM

@TheXed mine?

user68186

4:07 AM

@EliahKagan I don't know enough about the OS or the file system to disagree with you.

Eliah Kagan

4:29 AM

@user68186 I noticed your comment before your chat message, so I edited the post and commented there. I went with a wording that is more neutral than what I had originally suggested, to avoid having the post assert anything that you might not be willing to support.

But you should definitely edit it again yourself if you're not comfortable with the new wording.

Nathan Osman

5:43 AM

What the actual heck?

dessert

7:49 AM

@NathanOsman How are you supposed to get children without doing it this way?

vidarlo

9:34 AM

@dessert I'd say you should probably not have children if you do such things. Oh, except setting fire to yourself. That's perfectly normal.

karel

10:13 AM

One more CV from a reviewer is needed to bump this off topic question into Meta: Automatically wrapping lines in Ask Ubuntu

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@Fabby That was the point ;-)

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Fabby

8:15 PM

:44010613 Huh?

I have a sense of humour and cannot be insulted.

guntbert

@Fabby :-), but 10+ years on thinkpads leave their traces (and I just fatfingered :-)

Fabby

Aha! TP lover.

I used to love them when they were still IBM, and have a work one now,

but I've lost my faith in them.

guntbert

mind you, I am specifically talking about thinkpads - although my "new" desktop is from Lenovo too - I really like the hardware and how it reliably works under linux.

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Fabby

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@ThomasWard I think you'd be delighted to cast a secondary CV to a real security solution here

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10:31 PM

@JourneymanGeek +1