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@JourneymanGeek so, what? just because they can get things for Motorola M1 radio connectors cheaply because there's so many different things out there that work with that, doesn't mean they're actually capable of being compatible with other standards.

TheWanderer

@JourneymanGeek stahp

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek TBH I think you meant to highlight me. Can we kickmute TheWanderer? :P

2

Journeyman Geek

1:19 AM

@TheWanderer I was meaning the headphones ;p

ooops

TheWanderer

stahppppppp

Journeyman Geek

my bad

@TheWanderer SORRY

TheWanderer

christ lol

o_O

Thomas Ward

now i'm curious who starred that

TheWanderer

not i

jrg

1:20 AM

Not me.

Journeyman Geek

@ThomasWard basically (android flavoured) TRRS is super common

iphone flavoured TRRS is going legacy.

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek right, but I meant the opposite direction

M1 -> TRRS is... questionable

you're questionable

that's questionable

@TheWanderer hue

1:21 AM

Everything is questionable, including thy conduct @TheWanderer

Journeyman Geek

@ThomasWard trrs also works with TRS, and can be split so something like that gives you a ton of flexibility too

I'd actually go for dual TRS myself

TheWanderer

@jrg or is it?

@JourneymanGeek STAHP

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek red alert FYI: I'm the one with laser eyes, not @TheWanderer

jrg

@TheWanderer Well, we're talking about it so that means it's questionable.

Thomas Ward

lrn2type Tho<tab>

TheWanderer

1:21 AM

@jrg or does it?

Journeyman Geek

@ThomasWard ugh. I AM TOO USED TOO THREE LETTER AUTOCOMPLETE FOR EVERYONEEEEEEEE

Android Dev

lol

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek oh indeed, I know a lot about TRRS / TRS. But i'm more concerned about trying to go from M1 -> [unspecififed] TRRS.

jrg

@TheWanderer That's the logical end point.

Thomas Ward

because they're nowhere near the same thing

Journeyman Geek

1:22 AM

ah!

@ThomasWard but its analog audio

Android Dev

@ThomasWard I did. hue

Journeyman Geek

and that looks a LOT like an airplane connector, only not.

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek if all they want is the speaker audio parts, then yeah that will work

but that only works for one of the connectors

Journeyman Geek

ohhh

it does more ?

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek it's similarish to how the Kenwood connectors work

one carries audio

one carries mic and a PTT signal if it's a PTT device

Journeyman Geek

1:24 AM

ah

Thomas Ward

and I know a ton about how the Kenwoods work because my personal Baofengs and Tyterra radios all use the Kenwood connector

some case in point about such things

grabs images

TheWanderer

>_>

Journeyman Geek

oh forgot about the PTT bit

Thomas Ward

Kaz Wolfe

Tldr is I'm crazy

TheWanderer

1:29 AM

whoa I remember that @ThomasWard

Thomas Ward

TheWanderer

@KazWolfe no news there

Thomas Ward

first is the connector, second is the side view of one of my baofengs, third is how it connects. So you can see there's more than just the standard audio and mic

Kaz Wolfe

If there's not one, that works too.

Thomas Ward

@JourneymanGeek hence why I think we need to know more bout the use case

what device has the M1, and what they're connecting into

Kaz Wolfe

1:32 AM

Phone into some old M1 speaker/mic unit

Thomas Ward

what kind of phone, what is the specific speaker/mic unit

because M1 isn't "old" it still exists on some motorolas

jrg

Did this turn into The Radio Shack while I wasn't looking?

Kaz Wolfe

GS8, no idea.

Thomas Ward

@jrg ALWAYS

jrg

k

just making sure @ThomasWard

Thomas Ward

1:32 AM

@jrg offtopic chatter about radios :P

jrg

Hey it's all good

someday I'll make it a priority to get my technician license

Thomas Ward

I don't have my technician license yet.

Kaz Wolfe

Oh yes. I still need to start doing that one day.

Thomas Ward

I have my GMRS license, and a pending application for commercial band UHF and VHF frequencies

Kaz Wolfe

Way too lazy to care, and scanners aren't illegal so... /shrug

Thomas Ward

1:34 AM

@KazWolfe nope, they aren't.

jrg

sounds like we should make a study group...

Thomas Ward

Nor is owning transceivers.

broadcasting on a frequency though needs a license

GMRS covers me for the GMRS frequencies

jrg

I've thought about getting a GMRS station license

anyway... i'm derailing your off-topic conversation. carry on. :)

Thomas Ward

I have the GMRS license because I use it with my family and with some neighbors. But meh.

@jrg no no it's all good :)

Kaz Wolfe

So... Is a ham license worth it if I have no plans to transmit other than "authorized" pentesting?

Thomas Ward

1:35 AM

@KazWolfe got a picture of the device?

@KazWolfe "authorized" pentesting?

there is no such "authorized" part under FCC rules

and what do you mean by 'pentesting'

Kaz Wolfe

Totally not trying to set off car panic alarms

jrg

OK, I'm getting it as a goal to get my license before the rules change next July.

ARRL have decent materials?

Thomas Ward

i'm looking at local classes from a local HAM club to get my licenses.

and they'd do the exam too

jrg

Not sure I'll be able to commit to a local HAM club, I'm about to start a 6 month period where I won't be in town more than a few days at a stretch.

Thomas Ward

classes cost cash, license exam costs zero lol

@jrg oh I'm not committing to the club... they offer to-the-public classes and are volunteer examiners authorized to give the exam by the FCC

jrg

1:38 AM

@ThomasWard Didn't mean the club, meant in person classes.

Thomas Ward

ah

well they're weekend courses so meh

jrg

Oh, like do it in a weekend?

Thomas Ward

@jrg arrl.org/ham-radio-license-manual exists

@jrg well a couple weekends but yes

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard tldr connecting this or similar to GS8

Why? I have one and I want to put it to use for something if I can.

So what is the point of a ham license if you don't ever want to talk to anyone?

jrg

Makes mistakes with your transmitter a lot less illegal

Thomas Ward

1:43 AM

^ that

jrg

transceiver, technically.

Thomas Ward

@jrg though accidentally keying up on a frequency you don't have a license to for less than a second without being disruptive as a result of falling on your ass due to ice and accidentally hitting the PTT key...

... that's forgiven :p

jrg

@ThomasWard True but it's still annoying to deal with if something does happen...

Thomas Ward

True

My radios are all set to receive-only for a large number of frequencies I keep an eye on

GMRS is receive/transmit

Penn State Harrisburg ITS operations channel is receive/transmit because I work for the University so I'm covered by their license with my boss's permission

Kaz Wolfe

Yay for not having TX equipment that can hit anything other than ISM.

jrg

1:47 AM

@ThomasWard IT support has their own channel?

hamstudy.org seems to be pretty cool

looks like it's designed to get you to pass a test more than anything else

TheWanderer

guys get the Google Crowdsource app

it's fun

Kaz Wolfe

Yes. Give Google more data.

Work as a mechanical Turk for free!

jrg

Indeed

Thomas Ward

@jrg Information Technology Services department

help desk is only one small part of that

TheWanderer

it's

fun

and I use those Google services, so I want them to work

Kaz Wolfe

1:51 AM

I can also get paid to train AIs.

Why should I do it for free

TheWanderer

they're probably going to start handing out Play credits for it

jrg

@ThomasWard Gotcha. That's really cool.

Kaz Wolfe

If they do that, I'll use it.

That will make it worth my time.

Nathan Osman

Nothing locks up the UI like doing a disk => disk copy operation with a really large file.

In this case mechanical drive => SSD.

So that's a bit strange.

Thomas Ward

@jrg yeah, it's how we have across-campus live communication with individuals. And helpdesk to helpdesk comms which are business related. The channel is pretty clear most of the time though.

jrg

1:59 AM

neato

Thomas Ward

yep. And I live right next to campus and keep a radio on me all the time, even when not working, because the other channel of the dual-tuning setup (the A/B button on the baofengs and my tyterras) is the weather radio frequency. So I am reachable even if i'm not on shift.

if its business related xD

Nathan Osman

2:17 AM

Anyone have a copy of Visual Studio 97? :P

Don't ask. Don't ask. Don't ask.

Journeyman Geek

why do you need a copy of visual studio 97?

Nathan Osman

2:33 AM

I need a debugger that runs on Windows 98 SE.

I can't get any version of ProcessMonitor to work.

They all require Win2000+.

chaskes

@NathanOsman Does this help? pcreview.co.uk/threads/windows-98-debugging.1224905

Nathan Osman

Hmm... interesting.

jrg

3:13 AM

@NathanOsman MSDN doesn't have it?

Avery

msdn doesn't have most 90s stuff

Journeyman Geek

3:49 AM

as much as it pains me to say this - this probably means the abandonware route

Nathan Osman

4:34 AM

@Avery I believe MSDN has everything as far back as Windows 1.0

@jrg I don't have MSDN :P

Nathan Osman

4:45 AM

Edge is freezing up my VM.

Also, IE isn't so great at estimating download speed:

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman what's new

Nathan Osman

116 MB/sec - er... nope.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman gimme ur internet pls kthx

Nathan Osman

It's a bug.

I'm actually pulling at 400 KB/s.

Seth

5:12 AM

@KazWolfe not off the top of my head or a quick Google search.

Like Thomas said you may need to use multiple adapters.

don't happen to have a pinout for the M1 do you?

@KazWolfe e.g. something like this and then into TRRS, perhaps.

ugh, no that won't work.

edwinksl

spam askubuntu.com/a/959794/15003

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Just got 16 upvotes within 5 minutes... askubuntu.com/users/367990/byte-commander?tab=reputation - looks like some serial voting

terdon

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@Sina Oh hi, sorry, I had gone to bed! OK, great, if you've read the comment, that's all. And once again, thank you for your work with editing.

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@ByteCommander ha you too? I got 10+ in a few minutes too

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TheWanderer

10:58 AM

Wtf

The iPhone X is 1,149€

That's like $1350

jrg

@NathanOsman Oh, sorry. For some reason I thought you had a startup account.

Avery

@TheWanderer haha git gud

7000 try here.

~$2040

TheWanderer

Lolrip

Eliah Kagan

@ByteCommander Yeah, I got nine upvotes on (different) questions all in about ten minutes, several hours ago.

TheWanderer

I bet people are still going to buy it @Avery

Avery

11:06 AM

yes lol

like

7000try is like 3x average salary

TheWanderer

How much is the ceramic watch?

Avery

1400try

TheWanderer

@Avery that's a tiny salary o_O

@Avery no the $1300 ceramic one

Avery

oh lemme check

can't see any ceramic ones

TheWanderer

So you don't even get it

Pleb

Avery

11:10 AM

also I was wrong

1649try for apple watch

TheWanderer

Nice

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Byte Commander

2:38 PM

The officially first question tagged 18.04: askubuntu.com/q/959948/367990

(no blind VTC though, please. I think that type might be fine)

Android Dev

3:12 PM

I suggested an edit on RPi SE moving an unformatted syslog output to a pastebin, but the first reviewer rejected it

Which is dumb because

If you put it in a code block it exceeds the max post length

Fine, leave the post unreadable then!

O_o

it just got approved by a mod 5 seconds ago

Oli

@AndroidDev you can put three ```s at top and tail of unindented code to avoid the length issue.

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Seth

@Oli wait I didn't know that

Oli

Well... To avoid adding 4 chars to every line, anyway.

Seth

slick

Android Dev

3:34 PM

@Oli orly? Why doesn't the code format button do that?

Oli

@AndroidDev Because it favours the 4-space indent. Why? No idea. I'm not it's mother.

Thomas Ward

beeps

Byte Commander

re-beeps

Android Dev

@ThomasWard can you use your LAZORZ on this?

Thomas Ward

yes

but there's a fee

points the lazor at @AndroidDev

Android Dev

3:49 PM

gulps

Thomas Ward

go get me coffee.

hasn't had coffee today

Android Dev

Thomas Ward

chugs

yells "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

disappears

Android Dev

4:02 PM

@ThomasWard this might need to be nuked as well

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4:12 PM

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Q: Acheivments rep indicator glitching

The rep indicator lit up saying I gained 141 points, but I only gained 4. This has happened twice in the past 10 minutes. See the below screenshot...

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4:35 PM

Looks like MSI makes its money from replacement parts orders. An LCD for my laptop would cost $260 from them, refurbished, with dead pixels.

Nathan Osman

5:00 PM

357 days of uptime on this server.

Hang in there!

@TheWanderer rip Essential

Thomas Ward

5:52 PM

I feel dirty, having written an answer for this but also while completely rewriting the original question so it's actually understandable to the public...

... someone help me.

Eliah Kagan

@ThomasWard It looks fine to me. As far as I can tell that's the only thing the question could mean, and your edit to the question did not harm it in any way.

Thomas Ward

6:19 PM

@EliahKagan Oh, most definitely. I'm more concerned about the fact I'm answering SO questions.

Eliah Kagan

Oh.

Well I fear you may be beyond help, then. :)

Thomas Ward

eeyup

(now if only I had a ton of SO rep...)

Kaz Wolfe

sina in review

Nathan Osman

PHP in Docker is the ugliest mess I've ever seen in my life.

It's absolutely horrifying.

Kaz Wolfe

PHP.

That is all.

Nathan Osman

6:34 PM

That is enough.

Kaz Wolfe

cc @ThomasWard, discord

youll like my coffee cup

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe Function run_discord() failed: No suitable system found.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman AAAA HAHAHAHAHAAA

user136984

@ThomasWard I was doing an imitation of what I've heard come out of the mouths and keyboards of those who are younger and more hip than I am. Unfortunately, I may have made a slight miscalculation, and although it may have increased my reputation, perhaps not in quite the way I intended in the middle of the night... :D

Thomas Ward

@ParanoidPanda :P

Kaz Wolfe

7:06 PM

living in a city is sorta awesome

i push a button, and food appears at my door

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Q: Lubuntu either fails to install grub or fails to boot

I am trying to install lubuntu on my Asus netbook. Before I reach installation type, I see warning: Force UEFI Installation? This machines's firmware has started this installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there maybe existing operating systems already installed using BIOS compatibility...

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7:44 PM

And we're done! stackmobile.com has been moved into Docker and now offers HTTPS.

Only a couple more sites to go before Chrome's HTTPS deadline.

Kaz Wolfe

wait... what is this for?

i mean, there's an app and a mobile ui already, no?

this makes me irrationally angry

Nathan Osman

Wait, wat?

StackMobile existed long before the mobile UI.

Also, it offers access to sites in closed beta, unlike the mobile site.

Kaz Wolfe

ah.

+1

Nathan Osman

As to the headers, you're seeing what happens when Apache with mod_php is proxied through Caddy :D

Caddy is the load balancer / reverse proxy and it sits in front of nearly all my websites.

Kaz Wolfe

@Sina Just a small request -- can you please use more descriptive edit messages than "better format"?

Sina

8:06 PM

@KazWolfe OK:) I'll try

Nathan Osman

9:00 PM

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Tweeted by bjoelrichardson on September 27, 2017 at 6:47 PM

That's... quite the tweet.

Kaz Wolfe

woooo, my trx-1 arrived

cc @Seth

Seth

wooh

Kaz Wolfe

got a really good deal on it

like $150 or something

friend didnt want it so...

Seth

slick

Nathan Osman

I am running 37 Docker containers on this server - am I webscale yet?

Kaz Wolfe

9:17 PM

no

you need 255

jrg

but be careful

if you get to 256 you run the risk of a container overflow

those get messy

Kaz Wolfe

so... @Seth. Why is most radio software Windows only?

Byte Commander

9:43 PM

Why do submarines run Windows XP?

2

Nathan Osman

...and now stack2rss.quickmediasolutions.com is running in Docker.

I think that's the last major website I had to move over to HTTPS.

Hacktoberfest is back!

Seth

10:01 PM

@KazWolfe same reason lots of things are Windows only..

there are a lot of programs for linux in the amateur world, however.

You trying to do programming @KazWolfe?

Kaz Wolfe

yep

Android Dev

@ByteCommander also the computers in customs in some countries still run XP which seems like an extraordinary bad idea since they're scanning your passport

Avery

eeh

it's like

88 chars of machine readable text and some nfc stuff

not that hard to secure imo

Kaz Wolfe

10:42 PM

And I can't believe some places still use fax machines. The electrical signals waste so much time going AROUND the Earth when neutrino beams can go straight through!

Byte Commander

And all those medical devices in unprotected wifis...

puts tinfoil hat on

doesn't help

Seth

11:03 PM

@JacobVlijm someone is having issues with one of your answers askubuntu.com/questions/219095/alarm-clock-from-suspended-mode/…

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Seth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy sorry for the late reply. Those seem to be different questions to me?

also, nice to see you back :)

Nathan Osman

11:59 PM

WAT.

I only have 256 MB of swap on this server.

That will never do.

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