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12:23 AM
@TheWanderer ---^
 
lel
B66
 
There is still hope.
No they bought some new stuff.
 
@NathanOsman did you see my tweet?
 
12:41 AM
Question: is there a meta post on whether or not edited questions/answers should be explicitly marked with "update 1: bar" or "edit: foo" or something similar?
I searched several times on the meta site, but the search engine doesn't appear to be able to distinguish my intent from questions/answers that just have "edit" or "update" in them.
 
@Videonauth yes
 
First thing that came to my mind as i saw your tweet :D
 
@NathanOsman does your phone support LTE?
 
On certain bands.
It's a OnePlus 3.
 
my OnePlus 2 is still kicking around...
 
12:56 AM
@TheWanderer they're adding band 4 and 7.
 
1:09 AM
aww man...now the FBI is watching my internet...I just clicked on a .ca domain...
 
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Q: Wifi hard blocked on lenovo miix 510 ideapad tablet

Artful AardvarkI have a lenovo ideapad miix 510 with malfunctional Wi-Fi. Rfkill list shows a hard block, but it works fine on windows. Rfkill info as well as other info were generated via ubuntu's wireless info script, attached below ########## wireless info START ########## Report from: 08 Nov 2017 20:00 U...

@NathanOsman why would it be hard-blocked but windows can use it?
 
@NathanOsman that's good, but B7 is technically 2600, not 2500 like that news article claimed
 
RIP nathan
 
My OP3 supports band 4 and 7 apparently. So I'm good when they deploy.
 
1:38 AM
@NathanOsman yup
B7 is common in the UK and EU
and for some reason, a lot on NA phones support it
4 is 4 is super common
so I'm kind of surprised they got it
 
2:02 AM
They're deploying it in a nearby suburb mid-November and the rest of the area in December.
So - my Christmas present this year is LTE :D
 
lol
 
no u
@muru lol such subtle spam
 
2:52 AM
I keep forgetting I have Server 2012 on my Mac so I don't have to reboot to use Windows.
Interesting warning:
QWidget: Incompatible window flags: the window can't be on top and on bottom at the same time
Seems logical.
 
3:18 AM
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Q: Why does the site tease me about a comment I can't view?

Eliah KaganA deleted answer marked as spam shows a "show 1 more comment" link, but clicking the link does not show the comment. Reloading the page does not make the problem go away. The deletion itself is correct, and I absolutely don't want these spam posts brought back, but this behavior from the UI is un...

 
 
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6:40 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Although I agree with the spirit of your edit, my code was actually correct, and I've re-edited to clarify that particular read usage explicitly. read -r by itself with no variable name, as I used there, is not POSIX, and if a shell chooses to permit it, it may define what behavior it calls for.
Unlike in ksh and zsh, the behavior bash documents and exhibits for when no variable name is passed to the read builtin is to assign the whole line to the variable, including any leading and trailing IFS whitespace. So in bash, running read -r by itself is equivalent to IFS= read -r REPLY and there is no need to use IFS=.
Using IFS= in this situation is acceptable because it cannot break anything, but I consider it a poor practice unless one is deliberately writing a polyglot intended to take advantage of nonstandard features of multiple shells that are syntactically identical but semantically different, because it creates the impression one is doing so. bash code that uses read without a variable name likely makes other bash-specific assumptions.
For example, on Ask Ubuntu we often recommend to write echo in front of a command to see what will be run, which works with theecho binary provided by GNU Coreutils as well as the echo builtin in bash and some other shells, but will cause backslash escapes to be expanded some other echo implementations, including those in some other popular shells, such as zsh's built-in echo.
 
7:27 AM
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Q: What is the efficient way/environmental requirements to stream a 1080p file via Hotspot in Ubunut?

AKRI'm trying to stream a Divx 1080p 25fps file from a Ubuntu 16 to another Ubuntu 16 PC via Hotspot using VLC. PC#1 use VLC as streamer and PC#2 uses VLC client. Tenda w311mi is connected to PC#1 and it is made as hotspot(Hotspot setup is done through Ubuntu Network Manager). PC#2 uses the same ten...

 
7:40 AM
QHttpEngine and QMdnsEngine are now both included in msys2/mingw.
So in theory, it should be fairly trivial to build NitroShare.
Might give that a try tomorrow or the following day.
 
7:59 AM
0
Q: Ubuntu 16.04 libmfhdfalt.so.0 is missing

Nik Saiful AnuarI tried both install Mysql Workbench using .deb package and apt. Always returns the same error when launching it. I tried uninstall and install it again back and forth and the same error occurred. First I try to run Mysql Workbench using launcher, the icon pop in the launcher and after few secon...

 
8:12 AM
0
Q: Unable to locate package for a librery of openmpi

SaidFirst, i have a "12.04 LTS" version of ubuntu. For i use "openmpi" i installed the packages: - openmpi-bin - libopenmpi-dev - openssh-server - openssh-client And when i run the command "sudo apt-get install libopenmpi-dbg" like the others, unfortunately that note "E: unable to locate package libo...

 
8:51 AM
@EliahKagan OK, nice to know bash works that way. Is it documented anywhere ? I didn't see anything in the manual about -r having such behavior
 
9:03 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy It's not the presence of -r that causes leading and trailing IFS whitespace to be retained, but the absence of a variable name passed as an argument to read. When executing read -r foo (where foo is any variable name), bash will still remove leading and trailing IFS whitespace as POSIX requires.
As for where the behavior of retaining leading and trailing IFS whitespace when no variable name is given (this is the situation thatbash reads the line into the REPLY variable) is documented, the Bash manual says: "If no names are supplied, the line read is assigned to the variable REPLY."
Although I believe that description is technically unambiguous, I remember having been confused by it at first; I would like if the documentation stated this behavior more strongly. (The manpage has similar language.) However, as far as I know this has been bash's behavior for at least as long it has been in serious use. In particular, it works this way even on my old PPC Mac running OS X 10.4.11 Tiger where $BASH_VERSION is 2.05b.0(1)-release.
I would also consider this to be the obviously better design choice than that employed in ksh and zsh--though I admit this is really just my opinion--because stripping IFS whitespace is fundamentally connected to the word splitting the shell performs when there are multiple variables. With just one variable specified, stripping whitespace but not separating any words is the degenerate case of word splitting.
With zero variables specified, it seems to me that word splitting should not happen even at a conceptual level, but that the processing that uses IFS should simply not occur, as if REPLY were storing what would otherwise have been an intermediate result.
Anyway, that part's my opinion and not official in any way. zsh in particular is, I think, an extremely well-designed shell, and I imagine its developers would be able to mount a formidable counter-argument to my opinion about the design issue, if they cared to do so.
 
@Videonauth @ParanoidPanda Turns out Night Light has a bit of a different colour than Redshift. NL reminds me much more of f.lux. I love NL, upgraded to 17.04 because of it :)
 
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Q: E: unable to locate package libopenmpi-dbg

said bousFirst, i have a "16.04 LTS" version of ubuntu. When i run the command "sudo apt-get install libopenmpi-dbg", unfortunately that note "E: unable to locate package libopenmpi-dbg" show to me and the package no installed. what should i do?

 
9:38 AM
Heyo people
 
Heya folks: 14.11.2017 firefox will update to version 57, if you want to keep your legacy addons you might want to put firefox on hold with sudo apt-mark hold firefox
 
Hey @Videonauth , I decided to upgrade to ubuntu 17.10 which works smoother overall.
Now I only have a problem with stack exchange not letting me log in and "std::isnan" not being declared
 
@Thijser std::isnan isn't declared? Is the build using the wrong dialect of C++? (std::isnan became requred as of C++11.)
 
@EliahKagan I ' m trying to compile pycaffe, so I think it's something to do with ubuntu 17.10
 
Ok.
 
9:57 AM
std::isinf has the same problem by the way
 
10:19 AM
Hmm looks like I have to pass -D_GLIBCXX_USE_C99_MATH=1 , any idea how to do that with cmake?
 
 
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11:32 AM
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Q: CMake: How to pass preprocessor macros

KillrazorHow can I pass a macro to the preprocessor? For example, if I want to compile some part of my code because a user wants to compile unit test, I would do this: #ifdef _COMPILE_UNIT_TESTS_ BLA BLA #endif //_COMPILE_UNIT_TESTS_ Now I need to pass this value from CMake to the preprocessor. Set...

 
Any of you know how to fix this by any chance? stackoverflow.com/questions/47200632/…
 
i wónder why so many people have freezes and lockups with 17.10 beside that gnome-shell uses an exorbitant amount of ram i have no such happen here
 
For me it went away when I switched to the latest nvidia drivers
So maybe that is related?
What graphics drivers do you have?
 
nvidia 384.90-13 i think
384.90-0ubuntu3.17.10.1
 
I'm also on 384 and don't have any problems either, that's the start of a pattern
 
11:44 AM
but i had no freezes on nuveau either
but then, i didnt use the ubuntu installer
i used debootstrap to setup my system
made a second parition on my HDD and did debootstrap from 17.04 to get 17.10 on that second partition then updated grub booted over and got my settings files from my old instalation
:)
 
Doesn't the ubuntu installer also have the option of porting over your files?
 
istnt isnaf part of c++11?
 
I think it might be
 
no he only would leave the home directories alone but install over the existing system, which i wanted to keep in case something goes wrong
and due to i have only wlan on my desktop pc this way i had internet while installation
 
Ah sort of like how one might decide to keep the patient conscious during a surgery so he can keep on working?
 
11:49 AM
after i simply portet my gpg keys and db over and my rsa keys
yep
the procedure is relatively easy, i have made even a tutorial for this on my website
 
Meanwhile when I upgrade to a new ubuntu version my system is usually so fucked up that I'm happy with a clean slate.
 
yep i love the clean state too, this is why i deleted afterwards my 17.04 partition and grown the 17.10 partition to fill the space
i just wonder how you come to use gcc 4.9 O_o
┌─[12:42:57]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]
└──> ~ $ gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
COLLECT_GCC=gcc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/7/lto-wrapper
OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none
OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1
Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu 7.2.0-8ubuntu3' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-7/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,ada,c++,go,brig,d,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --with-gcc-major-version-only --program-suffix=-7 --program-prefix=x86_64-linux-gnu- --enable-shared --enable-linker-build-id --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without
gcc version 7.2.0 (Ubuntu 7.2.0-8ubuntu3)
 
It's because if you use gcc 7.2 it throws a lot of errors because nvcc doesn't support it
$ sudo update-alternatives --config gcc
[sudo] password for thijser:
There are 2 choices for the alternative gcc (providing /usr/bin/gcc).

Selection Path Priority Status
------------------------------------------------------------
0 /usr/bin/gcc-7 70 auto mode
* 1 /usr/bin/gcc-4.8 48 manual mode
2 /usr/bin/gcc-7 70 manual mode
 
i did long time nothing in c++ tho :( neglected it greatly after i came to python
 
Yhea I will mostly be using this for lua and python code, however sadly the default caffe package doesn't seem to include pycaffe
 
11:55 AM
mhmmm
pypi as well has no package for it either
 
Yhea it's one of those little things that the package manager should look into as I have already seen I'm at least the 3rd person with this problem
(the problem of having to compile caffe just to get pycaffe)
 
btw if youre intrested: videonauth.dyndns.org/index.php/2016/05/26/… my tutorial on debootstrap
this way i directly installed vanilla-gnome-desktop and skipped the whole ubuntu-desktop package
 
Oh wow! Dyndns? I didn't know they were still around!
 
@terdon they are but its a paid service
 
That takes me back to circa 96, before Clinton made mp3s illegal and I used to run an ftp server from my local machine :)
 
11:59 AM
40 U$ / year
 
ah
 
@Videonauth that's relatively expensive, I was able to set up a website for 12 euro's/year about 4 years ago
 
this server runs on my rapberry pi :)
on DEBIAN STRETCH :p
so i said it lol
 
Wait you pay 40$/year and they don't even give you a server?
 
well i chip in together with three other freinds on the dyndns fee so its about 10 for each of us
@Thijser nope but 50 dndns forwardings possible
so this account houses 4 forwardings at the moment
and this way I'm not on a virtual server, renting a real server costs as well nearly as much per year and this would let my friends then having to get their own servers too
this way we have our servers at home where we can pull the plug whenever necessary
and having no SSH port open to the outside is a big plus :)
 
12:07 PM
I know someone who was security obsessed enough to have the machine poll a his home computer on whatever or not it should open it' s ssh port.
Seemed risky to me though...
(static ip adress at his home)
 
well i have dynamic ips and im not opening SSH to the outside world but happily use it within my home network
 
I still miss my static ips, they had to be sacrificed at the alter of optic fibre though.
 
im on optic fibre too, but still have an ipv4 adress :)
for gaming batter, most games even newer ones dont support ipv6
 
Good old 195.85.130.147
 
$ speedtest
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from Unitymedia (88.152.234.185)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by cuegee it gmbh (Dusseldorf) [18.45 km]: 23.848 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 119.66 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed................................................................................................
Upload: 5.96 Mbit/s
that is btw a package within the repositories
 
12:15 PM
$ speedtest
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from CAIW Diensten B.V. (163.158.214.31)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by Maximum (Rotterdam) [5.97 km]: 12.377 ms
Testing download speed................................................................................
Download: 192.20 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed................................................................................................
Upload: 71.70 Mbit/s
 
how much do you pay for that rate in euros?
 
50 euro/month
 
i pay for my 120/6 about 35 euro
 
but that also include television and phone
 
wow ok, thats dirt cheap i pay for overall phne, tv, internet and moble 64 euros alltogether
 
12:17 PM
But I guess that the real challenge comes from maintaining that over wifi
 
but on the other side the few cable companies we have in germany are without competition
 
that's roughly similar to the Dutch market
 
oh no 120/6 is no problem with wifi
except my mobile all is running on 300mbit
and the PI is running on lan with 1gbit
 
Maintaining that speed when there are over 50 other wifi base points in range is difficult though.
 
yeah :) i have around 30 around
but most dont send on channel 13 and 14
 
12:20 PM
I actually have a beaglebone module that forces the other wifi base stations to respect proper channel ethicate
So for example nobody should ever use channel 2 as that always causes more interference then if someone picks channel 1
 
yep the overlap is about 1-2 channels
lke i said im on 13 and it seems not many people around here have fast wifi
there is at the moment axact one mor station on 13 running and thats it
 
I think you are not supposed to use channel 13-14 within the EU due to broadcast regulations though
 
well my router lets me select it so i use it
 
Not that that is enforced by anyone
 
if they dont want me on those channels they should lock them , the router is not my property
its property of the ISP
i think b and g cant broadcast on those channels this is why most people stay away from it
 
12:25 PM
Many routers do have locked channel 13-14 or hide them behind a country specification.
The Federal Communications Commission, or FCC, has actually banned access to channel 14. The organisation stated in a 2005 presentation: “regardless of the levels, a device may not operate in a restricted band”. The presentation then goes on to dictate “operation on channel 14 is not allowed.”
That said channel 13-14 is also right in the middle of microwaves but officially it's reserved for scientific usage
But legally if you are within the US or EU you are committing a crime by using channel 12-14
 
Hey, I'm a scientist! Therefore, my watching cat videos is "scientific usage", right? Right?
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^this
 
Plus, I'm a biologist and cats are animals so. . .
 
behavior studies of cats in mobile semi enclosed shelters?
And I'm working on my thesis which will actually have pictures of cats in it
 
well my router lets me access 12 and 13 as channels
dunno but if i can access something freely i use it, if thats a crime then my ISP is to blame, because i dont own the router
 
12:40 PM
I doubt that that is how it works though, if you rent a car and commit and offense then it's officially your fault.
 
@Thijser well its a device i have not full control over, and in fact giving out a device which lets me perform an illegal act is illegal as well
if i hand you a gun yand you shot someone you will be in for murder and me wil be in for it too
because it would have been my responsibility to not hand you that gun
but hen im no laywer and i dont think about it, they let me use it and i use it
 
I think almost everywhere if you do use an illegal channel then they will first send a letter if they get annoyed unless it's a very clear form of abuse (around here someone was for example caught with a jammer that jammed nearly all signals while driving near the airport)
 
oh i doubt that someone can get anoyed by it, WiFi is per se limited range broadcast
and i doubt they will drive around in telemtry vans to get people who do it
the cost of that would be in no relation to my offense or anybody elses offense
 
Yhea these things are mostly if you are within a very short range of a research facility then they may walk around with detectors and ask people to cut it out.
 
@Thijser Oh man, my condolences. Writing a thesis is not fun. Hang in there!
 
12:45 PM
@terdon it's actually kinda fun and exctiting if it all works but I cannot get this @!# caffe working
 
@Thijser Ah, so you're not writing it then.
 
hes stuck compiling caffe
to get the pycaffe package
which is unfortunatly not in the repos
 
@terdon well the writing is also part of it, just that I let my code do the talking and use it to generate amazing graphics that will dazzle whoever is looking at it.
 
user image
3
Lol
 
LOL
 
12:50 PM
Maybe @Seth or @NathanOsman have something to say about the "Canadians, probably" part? :D :D :D
 
I know at one point in time the printers at a certain dutch ministry started printing instructions on how to hack the printers on said ministry after no clear ict response was present.
 
Hahah
That's hilarious!
 
wat
 
@AndroidDev ask @terdon he probably can explain :)
 
12:52 PM
@AndroidDev they quickly fixed the printers after that joke, which was a good thing because you could read anything printed by them
 
@AndroidDev and if you havnt seen this movie, cut your internet and go watch it :D
 
I have not seen it. Really, I'm not much of a movie person
 
@Thijser Have you started writing? I am willing to bet you haven't, based on what you say :)
I haven't seen it either, actually. I know of it, of course, but I keep forgetting to get it and see it.
 
hehehe best movie evaaar
:D
 
@terdon I have actually started writing and am nearly done, just need to get some actual data so substantiate my wild claims.
 
12:56 PM
anyone an idea whats happening here? askubuntu.com/a/974404/522934
 
Waaaiit, this webpage just automatically scrolled me over to the left when a new message came in... (I'm on mobile) is that a Chrome thing or an SE thing?
 
never heard of NetworkManager bailig out 66% of the time and functioning normal the rest of it
 
Can a website scroll itself?
 
@Videonauth some kind of error, check logs?
 
Yeah he should run from terminal to get the error
 
1:00 PM
yep just commented he should include the output of journalcctl -xe in his question
for me always disabling the service and reenabling it always worked
 
Speaking of hacking... m.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Hn1rPQouU
That is soooo bad
"Blinky boxes"
Lol
 
@Thijser Oh wow. I doff my hat t you then. I found doing the PhD was great fun but writing was probably the most stressful period of my life. Satisfying, yes, but not fun.
 
@AndroidDev is it only me who has no saound on that scene?
 
@Videonauth it had sound for me
 
ok user error lol
 
1:07 PM
@terdon it helps that my topic is such that I can describe the effects almost entirely in pictures and mathimatical formula rather then actual text
 
had globally deactivated sound via keyboard becasue of a phone call earlier
lol i just could launch a cypernuke ... omg lol chliche lol
//doublefacepalm
 
@Videonauth tech support?
 
9 mins ago, by Android Dev
Speaking of hacking... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Hn1rPQouU
 
ah missed that one, was busy on another channel
 
1:22 PM
Uhhm
Well that's.... Unexpected
"Raja Koduri, who until this week had served as AMD senior VP and chief architect of the Radeon Technologies graphics division, is now taking up the same position at Intel. Basically, AMD’s graphics boss is becoming Intel’s graphics boss."
Rip AMD graphics?
 
Maybe they will join forces?
 
if you ask me amd and intel should stick to what they can, making processors, not fidling in markets they have no knowledge of, and that even if amd bought ATi
 
I would love to have more viable options in terms of graphics cards manufacturers. Then again intel does have that nasty bit of management software that is closed source and runs on ring-3
 
@Thijser well it came out earlier that Intel's next gen laptop chips will be using AMD graphics
 
@Thijser They already have
 
1:27 PM
Wait I though the ME run below ring 0?
 
and what the heck is that nowadays with laptops locking the OS to be only windows? i hate that sh**
 
@Videonauth just write some bad reviews whenever they do that.
@AndroidDev yes ring (-3)
 
1:46 PM
 
@terdon is this really OT??? --> askubuntu.com/review/close/773830
 
I think wine is on topic and this is about how to use wine to achieve some objective
 
so i think to, just asking for clarification, i really hate the close vote que
 
Probably someone who saw windows and voted to close
Btw can you see who votes to close things?
(just curious)
 
@Videonauth I don't see why. The user who voted to close has some, ehm, unconventional ideas about what is and is not on topic.
 
1:57 PM
ah ok :) well this i cant see
i leave it open then
just not want some mods stroming the channel and pestering me why i left it open :p
 
@Videonauth I very much doubt that will ever happen. Not unless it's blatantly off topic or something.
 
fell i got even asked somewhen in the past why i flagged something coughs :D
 
Flagging is different. That makes us work!
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:P
 
and im normaly very considerate with my flags nowadays, and take it slow, except for spam flags there you have to be quick oto get a flag done at all
 
Hmm seems like something is not so much wrong in my project as my entire gcc/std/c++ situations
 
2:16 PM
@Videonauth I'd remove the 56 and 57from your q to make move valid over time ;)
 
done
at least in the title
 
@Videonauth Don't get me wrong, do feel free to flag, just don't flag for things that normal users can deal with. We get flags for things like "this is a wrong answer" or "this is off topic" from users who can close vote etc.
 
@terdon ah no you wont see that from me
if i flag i have a real reason for it
 
@Videonauth like terdon being annoying :=)
 
nah he is tame :)
 
2:23 PM
Why do I suddenly feel the need to flag something?
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omg lol
The very first mistake you made is that you should have used this link to post your "answer" (which it is not). Want to retry? — Pierre.Vriens 17 mins ago
thats wonderful, i'll include that to my canned comments collection
 
2:40 PM
@Rinzwind is it just me or does feel writing a complete QA like talking to yourself?
 
I'm surprised that answer hasn't been deleted yet.
 
well i had it in review que, so it wont last much longer i think
but that comment was just edited into my list of canned comments
this is to good to let it decay there
 
2:57 PM
Is it bad if /usr/local/include is empty?
 
Only if you think you installed something in the prefix /usr/local that provides header files.
 
Alright, still working on my caffe issue and someone asked if I had any files there, I'm wondering if it might be an issue specific to ubuntu 17.10
 
There's shouldn't be anything there to start off with. If you install libraries from source code manually, such as by running ./configure, make, and sudo make install, then you usually get header files installed in /usr/local/include.
 
ah ok
 
3:14 PM
Hmm I get the feeling that maybe my question would have been better at home on this site then on stackoverflow anyway.
What do you guys think?
Game over! We (I and @_markel___ ) have obtained fully functional JTAG for Intel CSME via USB DCI. #intelme #jtag #inteldci
 
3:38 PM
@Thijser It would've been fine here but it's fine there too. I don't know where it's more likely to be answered. Personally I wouldn't ask for it to be moved, not yet anyway. You can still solicit input in this chat room after all. I've just read your question. So nvcc is effectively keeping you not only from using versions of GCC higher than 4.9 but also from using other compilers besides GCC like Clang?
 
Using another version of gcc does indeed not work (I think I can use 5.4 but that is not advertised and required me to "hack" nvcc), clang does not suffer from the same issue as gcc but it looks like nvcc takes gcc by default
 
So can you try building it with Clang?
 
Sorry hit enter before I was done typing.
 
So it's not sufficient to run ./configure CC=clang CXX=clang++ ?
 
it looks like nvcc takes gcc by default and ignores my attempt to use clang or otherwise makes clang have the same issue as gcc
there is no ./configure in this project
 
3:41 PM
Oh because it uses CMake instead of GNU Autotools.
 
cmake -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=clang++ DCMAKE_CC_COMPILER=clang .. did not work as it gave the same error
 
Ok.
 
but I'm not sure if it's not secretly using gcc anyway
 
In your question, what do you mean when you say that gcc -std=c++11 test.cpp is the same as g++ test.cpp?
Those commands do not have the same effect.
 
@TheWanderer did you ever install ubuntu on a phone?
 
3:47 PM
no
I don't have an Ubuntu-capable phone
 
what do you think of my comment here
 
@EliahKagan the output is the same
 
That may be, but neither is the command you should use to compile C++11. Both gcc and g++ determine the language from the way files are named. Attempting to compile C++ code with gcc, even if the correct language and dialect are being used, usually fails. At minimum, they don't link to all the libraries by default.
What happens when you use g++ -std=c++11?
 
same thing as the other two
 
What happens when you put -lm on the end?
g++ -std=c++11 test.cpp -lm
 
3:51 PM
the same thing
 
What's the full output of g++ --version ?
 
$g++ --version
g++ (Ubuntu 4.8.5-4ubuntu6) 4.8.5
Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
 
Hello everybody :)
 
Hey @cl-netbox
 
hello :) Boxy
 
3:53 PM
Hi!
 
@Thijser Good afternoon Thijs :)
 
I don't have a 17.10 system but let me install that version of gcc and g++ on my 16.04 system and see if it helps me come up with anything.
 
@Videonauth Hello my friend :)
 
@EliahKagan Hi Eliah :)
 
3:54 PM
Hi @cl-netbox!
 
Did you get your cuda stuff done @Thijser ?
 
@cl-netbox I updated to ubuntu 17.10 and I'm almost done, just gotta solve this issue
 
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