Whoa.

I just hit 117 MB/s on a gigabit router.

@NathanOsman O.O

Lucky freaking duck

@RPiAwesomeness That's not my Internet speed, don't worry :P

Oh. Phew

:D

That's a very... Loki wallpaper.

New desktop background? I find the Unity bar color a tad too light IMO.

@JourneymanGeek It is indeed :D

Tom Hiddleston man.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: USB Wifi card TL-WN823N in Ubuntu 14.04.2 by Mario Ramirez on askubuntu.com

A swing and a miss @SmokeDetector :P

Now with more Tom Hiddleston!

Anyone wanna volunteer to have that as their wallpaper? :D

The horrible quick GIMP job.

I so wish I had a second keyboard I could use for my Pi :P

I really ought to get a Mechanical keyboard of one of these days and then I can use my membrane one for the Pi.

@RPiAwesomeness I am disappointed with ElementaryOS

Wow. 21.52 seconds boot time to raspi-config on the Pi...with a Class 4 card.

@Whaaaaaat Oh, how so?

@RPiAwesomeness Not bad.

@NathanOsman No. Not bad indeed!

I'm gathering boot times for a comparison video.

@RPiAwesomeness Faux-paywall on download.

@Whaaaaaat So, Ubuntu has a similar setup

At least their link isn't in size-6 font.

Morning fellows!

o/

long time no see

Whaaaaaat's up?

yep that's right

just complaining about faux-paywalls.

faux?

elementary.io

"Donate or look for the tiny link"

what means faux?

fake.

basically, it looks like something, but it isn't

elementary looks nice!

@Mateo you should take a look at the footer

wait.. lenovo

that is not a good marketing

that is the closest that you can get from linux trying to appear OSX

^

I have no idea how I convinced my mother to let me install Mint on her laptop.

dinner is up

@Whaaaaaat you gotta hate yo mama

jk :P

should i move her back to Windows, or over to Elem?

Or maybe to Ubuntu?

(Or how about Arch, just to have some fun?)

'came on ubuntu

fun for you :D

Wait, Elem looks simpler, but for advanced users

ubuntu is simple for simple users

you gotta make a good work with the boot and login process

teach her to open the browser and stuff like that

the rest is history.. she would be fine. trust me :)

funny. she's not

sorry I gotta go

she gets confused whenever Kontact displays the welcome screen (instead of the email screen).

bye

Even I have no idea what kontact means btw

later

@Mateo wtf is with that removal request

i think they targetted all URLs containing "download"

chillingeffects.org/notices/10416081#

> We have an exclusive & worldwide deal for distributing this content

> ubuntu.com/download/desktop

really? smh

@Whaaaaaat BTW, what version did you try of eOS?

@RPiAwesomeness didnt install it yet

Ah :)

i'm just complaining about the paywalls

also @RPiAwesomeness what OS should i give my mother?

@Whaaaaaat Well. How savvy is she?

well, you know the kde email program kontact, right?

(the program that's like ms outlook)

she calls me over to help when it's default welcome screen is up instead of her email screen.

I think so?

Oh. lol

Okay, so not terribly savvy.

"why isnt wifi working?"

/me walks over and looks

/me realizes that the wifi is off

/me walks away

Personally, I'd give her Lubuntu, eOS Luna (and upgrade to Freya when it comes out - looks way better), or Mint. Default Ubuntu does have a bit of a learning curve with Unity.

she has mint

also, chillingeffects.org/…. Total Wipes be like Apple with patents.

or should i give her win7?

@Whaaaaaat Fair enough. Do you think she needs something else?

@RPiAwesomeness yes.

she's complaining about ^

Ah :(

i need something totally foolproof and idiot-friendly.

Welp. You're not going to have that ever.

as in, a 150 year old grandmother can learn it in 10 minutes.

:D

Try Lubuntu or Ubuntu MATE. Those are fairly straightforward.

if she can't handle KDE...

Now that I think about it, eOS might confuse her a bit with the lack of a minimize button.

oh yeah, forgot to mention.

@Whaaaaaat Then she really can't handle anything :P

save to desktop.

What's she have trouble with?

* wifi not working because the switch is off

* printer not working because printer is off (on a CUPS server on my end)

Ah. Well, Lubuntu will help with the speed. If it's boot time/application launch, give her an SSD. That'll help a ton.

As for the email, try Thunderbird. It's pretty darn straightforward. That, or Geary.

Soooo...mainly it's her derping that's causing the issues.

mhm

i want something so simple that it's literally three buttons

Welp. Not much an OS will do to help that :P

and i don't want her to change it.

Fastest Pi 2 boot time on my class 4 microSD card: 15.17 sec.

Average of 5: 15.99 sec

Pretty darn impressive

how are pi2s for http servers?

oh great.

she lost her document again.

fml

That's only ~2-3 times slower than my SSD + core i5 + 8GB RAM system, depending on the day.

lol. Have fun!

Doesn't LibreOffice auto-save?

yes

she still manages to lose it.

do asterisks screw with names?

Also, how the heck does she lose the file? Doesn't it prompt you to save it before you quit?

Um. heck yes

god damn it.

Or is she issuing a pkill -9 libreoffice && pkill -9 libreoffice-core command? ;)

'cause that'd cause issues.

she put two damn asterisks at the end of the file.

Yeah. You can't have an asterisk or / in a filename.

i give up.

@Whaaaaaat Well. That's the problem.

How did she manage that...?

And why?

Good gravy.

@Whaaaaaat Here. I'll make a bunch of tutorials on basics and upload them to my channel, and she can watch them.

Lemme guess, Windows allows asterisks?

You win, 'cause you don't have to help as much, and I win 'cause I get views :D

Pretty sure it doesn't though..

@Seth Oh, probably. 'cause Windows is stupid that way.

@RPiAwesomeness Well if Windows allows it then they must have a way for it to work..

I cannot recall what all they ban from filenames, but they make it pretty obvious. A popup appears anytime you enter a banned char.

@Seth But Windows doesn't work the same as Linux with files and wildcards. Though yeah, I think that is blocked.

i give up

i don't even want to know how she put asterisks in the name

@Whaaaaaat Yeah. That's really strange.

you know what.

i give up

she's getting windows 3.1

Well. You can actually save a file with asterisks in the file name in LibreOffice.

Why the heck is that a thing?

bug report plz

Average Pi 2 Shutdown Time: 20.25 sec

reboot and see if it still exists

Best shutdown time: 15.62 sec

sry.

because windows refuses to use special chars

brb

Yup.

Still exists.

And I can open it.

im really getting tired of seeing shit starred(litteraly message that have no reason being starred.)

So ... I guess it's not as big of a deal.

@Virusboy ikr. Blargh

okay.

@RPiAwesomeness She saved it with double asterisk, IN THE TMP FOLDER

I am so done with her.

She's not allowed to have a hard drive.

@Whaaaaaat The frick did she manage that...

Floppys FTW!

opening it as a kontact attachment

its not hard

o.O

and then saving it blindly in the same folder.

which is ofc in /tmp

I have my suspicions: ByteCommander and Toroidal seem to be around when the random stars happen.

I wonder if @Seth has talked to them - 'cause it is getting seriously annoying.

Okay you guys.

I know that's you, 'cause only the older users are active in chat right now.

@RPiAwesomeness how is the pi performance-wise? can i host a webserver?

yea i got hit for -40 rep for this shit to still happen

@Whaaaaaat Probably. I mean, the core clock went up 200 MHz from 700 MHz to 900 MHz and the CPU was upgraded to a quad-core and it doubled the RAM to 1GB. I definitely think you could host a web server on the Pi 2.

might get one or two then

esp. if i can host LACEMP

Tip: Linux will let you use any character in a filename except "/" and "NULL".

(Linux, Apache, CUPS, Email, MySQL, PHP)

@Whaaaaaat Set your mom up with Ubuntu MATE or Lubuntu and make her account just a user and remove write privileges for most everything.

It'll take some setting up, but it'd be worth it.

chmod -R 000 /

:)

@NathanOsman Linux doesnt use UTC-8 for encoding for text

Didn't you pull that off?

i did that with a global 777

Ah

@Virusboy That doesn't change my statement :P

your right, it doesnt

And I think you meant UTF-8.

^

i did

Linux doesn't support a time zone for text encoding?

I think I need to report a bug, because mine does...

I'm gonna try the Pi 2 out with several servers (web server, file/CUPS server, MC server) for a video.

my wife just said HAAAAiiiiiIIIIIIIIiiiiIIII

all i care about is email, web, cups, and a couple other light things

and maybe webmin/zPanel

@Virusboy Goodness. She's choking. Go and help her and stop chatting man!

:D

webmin is too much

cuz i want my dell back.

Oh well. I've got to get off.

G'night guys.

have fun

o.O

i'm going to give her win7 or eOS.

and call it done.

and not touch her system again.

Don't try eOS - it'll probably be worse than Mint

@Whaaaaaat If you asked a question about how to lock down an account to a limited sub-set of stuff writable/save-able-to I'm sure someone would be able to help.

Anyways. Peace out guys.

\o

@Whaaaaaat That's more pain than it's worth.

@RPiAwesomeness The only problem is verifying it is extremely painful.. and it requires being in chat when the starring happens.

@seth o/

\o

\o

@Seth Yeah. I'm sure :P

@Whaaaaaat happened?

Though, couldn't you just take each one aside privately and ask them very nicely if they did/are doing it? If you let them know that they won't e in trouble if they had been doing it and that the fact that they were will remain private (you could purge the room afterward) they might actually admit. Then you could explain why they shouldn't and hopefully they'd stop.

@Lucio I think you meant "Whaaaaaat happened?" ;)

Though, I'm not in charge.

thx

And I don't know how SE handles things like these and I'm not totally sure that it is them.

@Lucio o/

I'm just saying that it's highly likely.

We'll see what we can do :)

:)

I feel really awkward talking this way about someone else....

Maybe I can write a bot that "listens" for stars, and then grabs whoever is in chat at the time.

That'd be an interesting project.

XD

Some people abuse nice things :/

@JourneymanGeek Yeah :P

@NathanOsman Didn't you write a bot...?

What was it's name ... had a Python logo for an avatar

At one point, yes.

FlackBot.

Ah yes. FlackBot.

He's got an awesome sense of humor BTW :D

Impressive - FlackBot has 155 repz + 2 silver & 7 bronze badges.

@JourneymanGeek LOL

@NathanOsman Did FlackBot's code ever become OpenSource?

Yes and no.

I'm pretty sure I open-sourced the "brains".

Also, is he even in action? 'cause he's not in the Sandbox.

@NathanOsman Ah.

No, he's not in action.

cause there isn't a link on the StackApps page :(

Yeah, it was never intended to be something that someone else could grab and quickly set up.

(Too much potential for abuse.)

Good gravy. I can see where that would go.

O.O

Screw star spam - we'd have bots controlling bots. Stacks on stacks of bots bot-netting chat. Oh that would be bad.

@NathanOsman oh came on

came on?

tmi(not really hehe)

that is not a good reason to make something closed-sourced IMO

but very understood

for you maybe

@Virusboy :P

its about paranoia level

@Lucio It was just the code that connected it to the chat system, not the brains that were closed-source.

Others could improve the bot and add features.

They just couldn't plug it into chat and abuse use it.

ahh

@NathanOsman Well. The basic code isn't terribly complicated. Looks pretty easy to understand.

I still plan to one day release the code anyway.

Let me join you on that task my friend.

If I ever find where I put it...

plof

Does the SE API allow you to grab stuff from chat?

eg. The list of current users in the room?

Shouldn't be too hard to scrape, readonly?

Yeah, it wouldn't be terribly hard.

'confidence': 60 }

o.O

Your bot has self-esteem programmed in. Impressive!

It's actually fairly elaborate (the brains-to-chat connector).

It's a Qt app with an embedded QWebView that injects some JavaScript into the chat page.

And that's the part that isn't open source, I'm guessing?

Yes.

Ah

who runs the Qt app?

It hooks the various chat events (such as someone posting a message) and when one occurs, it passes the input to the brains which processes it and spits out a reply. From there, the app takes the reply, pastes it in the box, and triggers the "send" button.

@Lucio I used to.

If you guys are really interested in this, I can set up something on GitHub and start rebuilding it.

RPi is.

Make a list of things (within reason) that the bot should be able to do and we'll go from there.

Who likes food?

The very last thing he did (last year) was announce the winners of the moderator election.

@Lucio If it's bacon, yes. Otherwise, maybe.

:)

I want to discover a translation from Spanish into English

for that I would need your help

@NathanOsman I agree with this statement.

Ah, here we go:

Hey, I remember that!

Goodness, has it been a year of having @Seth as a mod already?

@NathanOsman that could have gone more expressive :S

I'm surprised the site is still standing!

;D

xD

jk, you're a great mod @Seth

He beat everyone else to the results.

Can't even access the results, lol

And touch-typing on a laptop keyboard with your hands parallel to the keyboard in the dark is not an easy feat

@NathanOsman I was just thinking about my bot idea. It really wouldn't be that complicated. Since it isn't actually interactable with on chat and never posts anything to chat, all it'd have to do is grab the page when a star is given. That'd be the hardest part.

how do you call the type of this food?

We call it "embutido"

@RPiAwesomeness What is the bot doing?

Ummmm.

I have no idea.

that is a good starting point

It doesn't do anything?

@NathanOsman It'd just watch for new stars and scrap a list of whoever is in chat and active at the time.

Holy frick. Tesla just keeps dropping!

I shoulda dropped them last week :(

@RPiAwesomeness have you ever eaten something like that?

@Lucio Definitely not.

you don't know what you are missing boy

It looks so nasty

Porn food.

Ooo. Intel bottomed out today too. Bleh.

Why are all my stocks doing so terribly? o.O :P

because you are too young to have an idea and just rely on luck?

Oh, probably. It's not real money, so it's a good experience :)

you are doing right then.

:)

its been a nice night

I need to find a good stock to replace Telsa...

att

Amazon looks tempting, wonder what other companies are doing good....

microshaft

ciao

@Virusboy Hmm?

Microsoft

They're on an upswing, yes

Well. @Lucio Just decided to peace out.

they are up because of anticapated 10 release

Yeah. When's that coming out BTW?

idk, if they dont go stupid, next year

I see

if they go the direction the CEO wants to go this summer

@Lucio Really? 'cause they're going down currently...

@NathanOsman Seeing as their are around 3 open source SE chat bots now I don't see how keeping your close source means much anymore ;P

@RPiAwesomeness :)

@Seth Good point.

Dang. My friend has all of four stocks and has made 12k returns in ~1 month.

Wow, that's impressive.

And he is not sharing for anything.

narwhals narwhals living in the ocean causing a commtion cause they are so awesome

o.O

I'm considering getting Amazon or Nike....those are both doing fairly well.

Nike drops to suddenly

?

I'll probably go Amazon though

I also like the look of Dupont. If Intel doesn't come back up within the week I may just drop them and get DuPont instead.

Am I missing something? This looks like an answer to me..

@SEth but hes not using utopic. His issues is 14.04

So?

Saying it works just fine in 14.10 is an answer.

how does that help a 14.04 user

it tells him his issue was fixed in the next release. And remember, we're trying to help more than just the OP.

^--- proof

of what

Fast network speeds.

@NathanOsman Where do we buy them? (Or do we have to make out own?)

I'm not sure yet.

I still have to figure out if the one I got is going to work. The text on the back isn't quite centered.

And the logo came out lighter than expected.

The suspense! So what does the text say???

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