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12:25 AM

I've listed the app on my website here.

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What's with all of the ARM PPA builders (like this one)?

amazon.com/The-Phoenix-Project-Business-ebook/dp/B00AZRBLHO/… | pick this book up about DevOps while it's still free

i hear amazing things about it.

1:01 AM

@GeorgeEdison so not in US yet?

I'm not sure.

Does it show up in the US store?

It's supposed to be available but I saw a message saying that it might take a few hours before the app is published.

I used your link and it listed that --- it wasn't avaible in my, --- whops there it is.... guess it just got there

I missed checking the 'US' checkbox when I first set up pricing, so it took a bit longer before getting updated on the US store.

Ah, it says can' be found but the price is up now

Probally in process, i'll try again in abit

1:23 AM

Nice, @GeorgeEdison you are now the owner of 2 shiny new dollars (minus whatgoogle gets)

@jrg got it

@CallmeV cool

I've been thinking there should be an app that probes the "gadget mode" APIs for a couple bucks. Maybe I'll get around to making it.

hmm

any mods around?

Oli

Just about

1:28 AM

yessir

is he on AU too?

/me hasn't checked

yup

see other link

The question he cited had a typo in the title. Enough said.

interesting.

I actually expected more, he has globs on SU

Q: What makes a question too broadly scoped for askubuntu?

The touting Serva a lot being a developer of the same is a little suspicious

Ask Ubuntu Meta

1:34 AM

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My concept of 'too broad a scope' up until recently pretty much amounted to "How do I setup Ubuntu server and then, and then, and then...." My understanding is that such a question should actually be two or three questions as there are separate topics involved. I also previously understood the l...

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@mateo_salta Thank you!

eheh. Dev SMACKDOWN

@GeorgeEdison so can i copy the ntroshare-mac source to it from github, or am i doing something wrong

Yup, you can clone the NitroShare-Mac repository to the device.

Just use this URL: git://github.com/nathan-osman/NitroShare-Mac.git

Support for the SSH and HTTPS protocols is planned for a future release. HTTP and GIT are supported in the meantime.

Ah i knew i was missing something

Missing the URL: part

Cool, like how it views the files. Awesome start.

1:50 AM

Thanks.

Do you hav a place for feature requests, or should i drop a e-mail sometime.

Sure - feel free to drop an email. That would be wonderful.

quick question, what directory does it put repositories

2:25 AM

It's in a private app-specific repository.

Back when I was using libgit2, it required the ability to chmod files - and that was only supported in app-specific directories.

I am going to look into allowing repositories to be checked out to the SD card storage area.

Did you wind up using the tar lib idea or not so much for pushing things to sdcard?

nevermind...you just answered the question

@CallmeV Wait... are you Abraham van Helsing?

Yes

And people get after me for using a fake name :P

Helpsing. It was a help vampire joke

2:28 AM

I didn't recognize you until just now.

Heh...the rename was for a bit of cheekiness on MSO. I have to wait 30 days to change it back

Not... really... there's a way around that >:)

Ooooh. Well here's the bit of cheekiness if you care to look: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/174244/182530

@Asad - Expounding with exemplary ennunciation through complete communication contrary to common colloquialisms engenders an individual imperative to eschew obfuscation — Call me V Mar 30 at 3:57

Impressive.

I felt a need to stick up for Seth a bit

2:32 AM

Yup.

@GeorgeEdison Not (easily) if the name was changed via SE, rather than a single site.

Right - but he mentioned MSO specifically, so I assumed it was just local to that site.

No it was stack wide

@GeorgeEdison Since his chat.SE name is also changed - which has his AU acc as parent, I don't think that's reasonable to assume. :P

Also, @GeorgeEdison ... Google doesn't want me to buy your app: "This item cannot be installed in your device's country." :(

What country are you in?

I've set it up for sale in Canada and the US.

I'll be adding more countries in the near future.

2:45 AM

Don't sweat. I prefer not to give Google my bank account anyways. ;)

It's Germany, but the country you're in doesn't matter so much as the one the phone is registered to. sidenote

You're right - that's what I should have asked.

Anyway, Germany would be charging VAT for taxes if I'm not mistaken. So it will likely be added soon.

Q: Why don't force to new users to view the about page?

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I'm an user of Ask Ubuntu since more than 11 months, and just today noted the about page (mea culpa) To be honest, I didn't think that such a content that this page have will be in such a little link. This page is very intuitive and it explains how this site works in a very nice way. And, fro...

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^--- This is apparently about to change, btw.

As per this ---v

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A: Do we really need the double step to get rid of the new about banner?

In the next few days, we are going to be rolling out some new features that will only affect anonymous users. This is one of them. The goal is to try to give users who are not familiar with our sites a soft landing with the "site at a glance" and an additional link to the new pretty about page. ...

A: Deobfuscating C++ source code

3:18 AM

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Sure, just like this! Place water in container A; Place water in container B; Move water from container A to container B; Stir; Re-obtain water originally from container A and put it back into container A. It's really as simple as that.

Very... sarcastic... answer.

I want to upvote it ...

I know it should be deleted, but I so want to upvote it.

lol

would giving him a link to the actual source code be a comment or an answer?

@JourneymanGeek An answer... and I will upvote it.

@GeorgeEdison: posted ;p

XD

first accepted answer and upvotes on SO

3:45 AM

Why is there no data.chat.SE? >.<

3:57 AM

@FEichinger: I know someone who would want that just to track how many times I say lol

@GeorgeEdison YAY \o/

@JourneymanGeek I want to analyze star conversion rate. As in, how many messages get multiple stars if they already got one star.

@guntbert :)

I need to get rid of this wig...

@Seth No, leave it.

I ran around as friggin Wesley Crusher for a week, so you can keep your wig!

@FEichinger lol.

4:00 AM

Your answer should be "Point taken."

Why?

@JNK I think we're talking past each other there.. — Seth 10 secs ago

OH YEAH! That's the best comment reply I've ever made.

@FEichinger The wig makes me feel sober... And oh so grown up.

Oh dear, my Clang builds don't work.

clang clang

@Seth ... I don't know why, but that hurt.

@FEichinger Oh? Sorry... Don't know why..

4:05 AM

appears

@AmithKK You need an *appears* button..

@Seth That's an easy userscript

Already done actually.

I used to use "Hello All" and then it became so overused

@Seth yeah, @GeorgeEdison's script

So what should I use next?

@AmithKK We also have an actual button userscript now.

4:07 AM

@AmithKK @FEichinger 's script.

@FEichinger linkie?

We've always had a button script :P

And if I could be bothered, it would actually be bug-free and nicely-looking ...

@AmithKK userscripts.org/scripts/show/156028

@FEichinger I am dissapoint! :P

4:08 AM

YU NO PUT ON STACKAPPS?

@AmithKK this.

Yeah, there's no excuse for not listing it on Stack Apps :P

You get rep too! What could be better than that?!?... /sarcasm

@GeorgeEdison Yours adds one. Mine lets you add this beauty:

@GeorgeEdison There is. I genuinely can't be arsed to put it up on SA.

appears

4:09 AM

@FEichinger ★

@FEichinger All you have to do is use my listing wizard UserScript.

@FEichinger Suggestion.. remove the buttons button itself

@Seth I'm almost at the edge of my screen. ALMOST.

It guides you through the process of listing a UserScript there.

@GeorgeEdison I hate UserScripts!

4:10 AM

YOU JUST WROTE ONE!!!

@GeorgeEdison Seth wrote it. I enhanced it.

But you're using it?

The web developer who hates Javascript o_o

Well ... In the end I wrote 90% of it. But still. It was Seth who started it!

I take no credit.

4:11 AM

@Seth Yes, I despise JavaScript. It's an inconsistent pile of crap.

My JS is sooo bad..

PHP is worse.

@GeorgeEdison Hush you!

It is!

@FEichinger Well.. Okay, it doesn't work well.. (for me). But you like gasps PHP!

4:12 AM

@GeorgeEdison PHP is awesome. It survived all the fancy crap that showed up in-between, and it will survive this phase as well.

There's precisely two ways I can see Web Development head for: A) full-on Semantic Web with client-side execution of errythin. B) Back to the good old server-side buildup that sends a fully working site to the client.

PHP is the worst bunch of garbage ever developed for the web! What are you talking about? Method names are ridiculously inconsistent, parameter order is inconsistent. You can't even throw an exception from __toString()!!!

in PHP on Stack Overflow Chat, Jul 4 '11 at 14:19, by salathe

PHP sucks.

I found that funny...

It got 29 stars.

@GeorgeEdison That's because it's old. It has had stuff added for it over and over again.

I'm not going to argue over which language is best. C++ is weird.

@FEichinger Being old is no excuse for being useless.

4:15 AM

@GeorgeEdison It isn't useless! You just gotta avoid half the stuff that's been added to it.

The namespace syntax is uglier than obfuscated Perl!

@GeorgeEdison That's because OOPHP doesn't fit in! I use it, because it can be exploited for all sorts of fun, but it doesn't fit into PHP.

It's fun watching you guys.

My favorite argument at this point is: "Shut up, you use Java."

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@FEichinger Only because I have literally no choice.

4:19 AM

@GeorgeEdison I know, I know.

PHP might not even be so bad if there wasn't such a superior alternative in Python+Django.

Q: Chrome Extension for Stackoverflow - Customize the color scheme

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I'm not sure if is the correct place to post this, but I wanted to announce that today I Created an google chrome extension that allow you to choose custom themes in order to make pretty the code that you read. The extension inyect CSS (Lite extension) and save your preferenced theme. The id...

discussion stackoverflow tools

@GeorgeEdison Meh. A) I hate ~~frameworks~~ f-words, B) I distribute my stuff and I don't want to rely on the server by chance supporting the f-word I need.

After all, PHP doesn't escape HTML by default or provide CSRF protection.

I use PHP because.. well.. That's what I have.

4:21 AM

@GeorgeEdison So what? Any half-decent Web-Dev writes that stuff blindfolded.

@Seth Python comes standard on Ubuntu. You have that too.

@FEichinger Never write for yourself what security experts have written for you. Relying on only your own eyes for such an important security feature doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

@GeorgeEdison Django doesn't come on servers though. Most servers anyway.

sudo apt-get install django

@GeorgeEdison That works on my server..

@GeorgeEdison The problem with "written by security expert" is that it's publically known. Chances are, the inevitable exploit is already found.

4:23 AM

@GeorgeEdison That's like I hire a web developer who insists on using Flash... Oh the horror!

@FEichinger With only one person (who isn't a security expert) working on it, chances are, the inevitable exploit isn't even known (by the person writing the code).

@Seth Point.

@GeorgeEdison Finding the exploit is harder when you don't know what it is beforehand, though.

One last argument: PHP is slow. Load-and-parse-the-entire-script-for-each-page-request kind of slow.

It does have caching. Aweful caching, mind you, but it exists.

I prefer slow over thinly spread every day of the week.

4:26 AM

Thinly spread?

@GeorgeEdison I agree. Aren't there cacheing libs?

There's Zend - but that costs $$$.

<--- doesn't have lots of $$$

Can't you see that you're smothering me
Holding too tightly afraid to lose control
Cause everything that you thought I would be
Has fallen apart right in front of you

:P

Stop arguing and use C#.

NOOOOOOOO!

4:28 AM

@Seth Don't joke about this.

That was only for stars.

I'm kidding. Actually the language itself isn't that bad.

@Seth They tried that already.

@FEichinger Heh.

The problem with C# is Mono. It's... not terribly reliable.

4:29 AM

@GeorgeEdison The language is great.. .NET is awesome.. But it's not very cross platform.

@GeorgeEdison Exactly.

@FEichinger and it worked quite well.

@Seth Which is funny, because .NET was intended to be cross-platform.

@FEichinger Moonshine.

@Seth Oh no, it didn't.

@Seth Wasn't that discontinued?

bad pun'erish

@GeorgeEdison I think so.

Nope, guess not: abock.org/moonshine

@FEichinger I think we're talking past each other there.

4:33 AM

@Seth You don't say.

@FEichinger Who is "they" in this instance?

@GeorgeEdison Also: mono-project.com/Moonlight

@Seth I am talking about this.

@FEichinger I think I understand.

Good.

That's why you never joke about using C# when Web-Devs argue the "best language/framework/fuzzyball".

Heh.

4:37 AM

Never. Ever.

Compared to that pile of rubbish, even Ruby seems pretty attractive to me.

Blah.

obligatory @jrg nudge

Someone been clearing out the new tags? @EliahKagan?

Q: How to edit a backported package before uploading it to a PPA?

5:32 AM

Maybe this will get some answers:

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I'm attempting to backport Clang 3.2 to Quantal from Raring. Thinking this would be a relatively painless process, I ran the following command: backportpackage -s raring -d quantal -u ppa:george-edison55/clang3.2-backports clang The package was uploaded to the PPA without any errors and built ...

ppa backport clang

I've had it up to here with Clang. Points above head.

Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.reddit.com

Ok

wat?

5:51 AM

No, it's up.

Q: When not logged in, the "faq" link on top is falling down

6:11 AM

Wow:

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A: Software for Javascript?

I quickly adapted this into a UserScript which you can get here: www.files.quickmediasolutions.com/userscripts/edit_tools.user.js CMMS Software | CMMS Mobile

Not only is that spam, somebody is trying to take credit for something I made.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

7:36 AM

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Happens in Chrome 26: When logged in it appears fine.

bug design

7:51 AM

Just added a banner to the page:

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nathanosman.gitdroid

8:29 AM

@GeorgeEdison Still awake?

@GeorgeEdison Search Button on the ActionBar?

A lite version of the app?

10:06 AM

BBL

Lol the image of google is something of my country :D

this cant be true

?

!

ô

maby google don't show it in your contry ;)

10:12 AM

yes.

daveproxy.us/…

We are talking past each other now.

lol the 1 april joke

Hey, mind your language.

fossfreedom

weird conversation...

10:14 AM

Truth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_past_each_other srr i don't know good english phrases ;)

So, coming back to your problem.

Ok, what's happening?

Hello, how can I be of assistance to you?

appears

10:28 AM

This job I am working on is not really a job.

It is just a time sink.

And my boss is not around.

you mean your bro?

@Mahesh i call him boss.

oh. kay.

O.... kay....

Do you want any assistance with calling him Boss?

10:30 AM

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@jokerdino rebol and red guys have a bot in their chat room.

can we have one too? :D :P

maybe we already have

Amiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiith.

no, not self conscious bots like Oli and jorge

@DanHulme so coming back to your problem.

10:31 AM

simple bots that do what they are told.

@Mahesh I call the former Al. He wants to be called AI.

@Mahesh There certainly aren't any of those here

@jokerdino sup?

@Mahesh ?

[Rebol*]

Forum: forum.rebol.info R3 Docs: trello.com/b/l385BE7a/rebol3-...

Q: RebolBot - a chat bot for the chat rooms

@Mahesh Wow.. a sandbox codebot :P

But what's it's use here?

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Screenshot / Code Snippet @Rebolbot help @GrahamChiu I respond to these commands: delete [ silent ] "in reply to a bot message will delete if in time" do expression "evaluates Rebol expression in a sandboxed interpreter (/x)" help "this help (/? and /h)" keys "returns known keys (/k)" rem...

app script chat

Hah!

You can use REST with Chat.SE

@GeorgeEdison Please Please make a Python Wrapper for the chat REST API

BBL

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:55 AM

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Q: Install the same 64-bit packages as a 32-bit Xubuntu installation

I have been using a virtual machine (Xubuntu 12.10, with VMWare on a windows host) for all my programming work, which I am trying to transition from a 32-bit install to a 64-bit install. I am hoping to be able to automatically re-install all the packages I have been using in the 32-bit VM in my n...

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maggotbrain

12:10 PM

FYI. This user has had their account deleted on SO and their answer removed on SU for posting the same answer in the last hour: askubuntu.com/questions/11673/…

Not sure if there is more to it than just these posts. Cheers!

fossfreedom

bad answer and deleted ... if they repeat then will take further measures.

maggotbrain

Thank you.

I wasn't sure how serious it was, but SO deleted their account within 5 min, so I figured their might be more going on that I didn't see.

12:32 PM

ooh

I know of something that can do it, but not live

@JourneymanGeek ?

waon.sourceforge.net

1:20 PM

hey guys and girls !

nvidia doesn't do a good job to recognize my external monitor, askubuntu.com/questions/277433/…

the monitor is blurry/fuzzy .. I believe it's cause of the sync or something.

@GeorgeKatsanos: might be wrong res as well

I just checked the monitor information

all current settings (res, Hz) are the same as the recommended settings.

so it might just be the VGA cable

because the monitor is recognized as "CRT" in xorg.conf...

CRT can't be correct for an LCD monitor..

Jorge Castro

@Oli +1 on that apt question

you were way more explanatory with your answer than mine

ugh

VGA is pretty crap

DVI at least!

my laptop has only VGA

I ll ask the IT for a DVI to HDMI cable

I have already an HDMI to HDMI but

the monitor doesn't take HDMI...

1:29 PM

ahh

so you see :)

but whats weird is that my collegue with a VGA windows laptop has no issue.

1:51 PM

@GeorgeKatsanos Just turn up the resolution. see: forums.lenovo.com/t5/T61-and-prior-T-series-ThinkPad/…

Your VGA monitor at college has a lower native resolution so you don't get the blurry thing you're talking about.

I'm at work :)

but my monitor already has the recommended/higher resolution

I guess it's possible it's the adapter, but the visual effect you're talking about is common for running lcd below it's native resolution.

yeah I think it is - I remember I had it once again when I attemped to use VGA instead of HDMI for an external screen

hoping the adapter will solve the issue

although weird NVIDIA doesnt find any info for the monitor

(in nvidia x server settings app)

2:30 PM

@jrg I second that :P

2:42 PM

►

Wait.. is that freezing?

2:55 PM

No, that's a pocket of vapor liedenfrost effect...

Eliah Kagan

3:05 PM

@Seth I have not been clearing out tags, no.

3:25 PM

@CallmeV Cool! Can you please explain to me what the Liedenfrost effect is?

read wikipedia

Or watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=gjsMV1MglA4&feature=endscreen&NR=1

App is for sale in the UK now.

cool

can it show git log? it's not clear from the description

Someone could make a substantial amount of money making a raspi/arduino project that mirrors this thing: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/…

@Dan: yes - it can display the commit messages / authors for the last 20 commits.

I think there's a screenshot showing that.

3:41 PM

Oh, I didn't look closely at the screenshots. I guess I should have thought to.

3:58 PM

@GeorgeEdison Video please :)

4:31 PM

BBT

Good Night

4:47 PM

@Amith: I'll look into that..

6:25 PM

Can we get some re-open votes on this:

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Q: Delete dialog not showing

I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and when I hit delete it just deletes the file with no confirmation dialog. And yes the 'Ask before emptying rubbish bin or deleting files' checkbox is ticked in on the behaviour tab in the files preferences Is there something I'm missing??

unity filesystem files

Please and thank you.

Does anyone even use the Trello page?

Jorge Castro

we haven't really had an organized event in a while

Q: Using sudo in openSUSE without actually changing to root user (i.e., like in Ubuntu)

O...kay.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

6:46 PM

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I recently started trying openSUSE 12.3 after having used Ubuntu for a few years. I'm still getting used to openSUSE's treatment of su (and sudo) vs. Ubuntu's use of sudo. I've been reading the openSUSE manual, but can't figure out answers to two related questions: 1) In a previous question at h...

ubuntu opensuse sudo root su

7:30 PM

Here we go again...

@GeorgeEdison you could try what I tried to get nitroshare on ppc mac

What's that?

Just start deleting stuff...

:)

Q: Ubuntu: How to configure DNS servers in /etc/network/interfaces correctly for resolvconf?

Although I got lucky, it was only one thing that didn't matter much anyway...

And you knew an alternate that we put back in.

@GeorgeEdison oh, yeah - and I forgot to add in my e-mail to add notifications possibly for new commits

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:58 PM

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All examples I have seen of configurations (/etc/network/interfaces) showed that you configure an interface and then underneath that gave the dns-* lines such as: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static ... dns-domain example.com dns-nameservers 127.0.0.2 dns-search exam...

ubuntu networking dns resolvconf

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Q: Sharing /boot between two Ubuntu 12.04 Server installations?

This question may seem trivial at first sight, but it has certain implications and I'm wondering what is the recommended path to take here. Assume the following scenario: a server system. The default boot gets kicked off from a partition on the first hard drive which hosts the /boot volume and t...

ubuntu boot server dual-boot

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Q: Use dedicated per-user log file for cron and?

On Ubuntu 12.04 how can I configure cron to log to a particular file when it runs jobs as a particular user? I am interested in redirecting both the messages that go into auth.log and those going into syslog.

ubuntu logs cron log