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izx

12:06 AM

:( ...

msPeachy

I need to modify my grub to boot into windows by default for my sisters

TRiG

It's fun to watch browsers fumblingly recapitulate the history of window management. Someday we'll have xmonad as a Firefox extension.

izx

12:20 AM

@msPeachy If it can't read sda... do you have the menu displaying?

msPeachy

@izx which menu? I am on the terminal.

ObsessiveFOSS

@msPeachy I saw your edit. Be obsessive.

msPeachy

@ObsessiveFOSS which one?

izx

@msPeachy I mean when it boots, do have the menu set to display?

msPeachy

@izx yes

grub menu displays, i just need to set Windows as the default, without having to use the arrow down keys

izx

12:30 AM

@msPeachy Can you manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?

(i.e. write to it)

msPeachy

my sisters and mom, are noobs and sometimes the 10 seconds timeout would just end and they still haven't selected Windows.

@izx yes I can, I've already set windows as the default, but it won't take effect unless i update grub right?

izx

well, update-grub modifies /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but if it won't write to that file for some reason you can manually modify it (although another kernel upgrade/update-grub may revert it)

msPeachy

peachy@msPeachy:~$ cat /etc/default/grub
# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
# info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

izx

no, pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg

what error does sudo update-grub give you again?

msPeachy

cannot read to /dev/sda

@izx how do I pastebin again? it's too long to paste it here

izx

12:38 AM

cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit

msPeachy

paste.ubuntu.com/1151742

izx

@msPeachy Sorry, pings were muted. Change 0 in line 13 to 4 and you should be set...

msPeachy

@izx okay will try that, thank you

izx

In line 61 I'd also change timeout from 10 to 60 just to make sure this works, then can change back again...

@msPeachy You're welcome! Hope it works...

msPeachy

@izx okay will reboot and get back to you, thank you again

George Edison

12:52 AM

Glib... ready to go!

hakermania

good night guys... I really worked hard today (it's 4 at the morning here).... See ya tomorrow probably :)

msPeachy

@izx ^

@hakermania good night

izx

1:10 AM

^^ confused at smiley (too tiny to figure out)

@hakermania Goodnight!

msPeachy

@izx that was me thanking you, LOL

I bat my eyelashes, when I'm grateful

izx

LOL!

@msPeachy Some might call that vamp-y :P

msPeachy

@izx Told you so

LOL

Jorge Castro

woo, new close votes!

@izx I'm going through them now!

izx

@JorgeCastro Thanks for the reminder, I'll get on it as well... :)

^^^ I was wondering where the number of existing votes went!

Jorge Castro

1:28 AM

.... and I am out of votes.

izx

@JorgeCastro I'm saving some for the Tools/Most Votes, a little more satisfaction seeing yours be the last vote ;)

Jorge Castro

ah

@jokerdino only 20 close vote reviews? NEED MOAR!

ajmitch

@JorgeCastro that's quick..

Jorge Castro

heya

you want to hit the close queue up?

ajmitch

hello sir

Jorge Castro

1:33 AM

it's new and easy

and tbh we need every vote we can get

ajmitch

is it visible to plebs like me?

Jorge Castro

yes

askubuntu.com/review

and click on close votes

ajmitch

ok, I see it

might take me some time, but this is a useful tool

I see there's a 'disagree'

izx

Disagree, Not Sure, all we're missing is rate from 0 to 10 ;)

ajmitch

1:52 AM

I'm seeing a few close votes for ubuntuone questions, with the reason being that they're off-topic

As far as I know, Ubuntu One is still on-topic for AU, right?

aking1012

2:17 AM

@GeorgeEdison glad you figured out that _symbol problem

msPeachy

o/ Andrew

aking1012

o/

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch yes, it's ontopic

aking1012

not again:

0

Q: How to get rid of kubuntu-desktop completley?

So, I installed the kubuntu-desktop 2 days ago, and to my surprise the startup screen changed from the one which shipped with ubuntu-12.04. I wanted to revert back so i used the following command:- sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and selected lightgdm but the only thing that changed was the log...

Jorge Castro

@ajmitch if it's something that should be reported in launchpad as a bug it's offtopic

@aking Can you go through the queue today too?

if we can get this initial pool down we should be in good shape

aking1012

2:30 AM

i got a little fatigued yesterday because i was pulling a lot of iffy ones. i'll look though

Jorge Castro

that's fine, just getting them out of the queue is a win

we seem to be stuck around 300 since it launched

ajmitch

ok, used all my close votes for today

askubuntu.com/review-beta/close/stats shows a few more than 300

Jorge Castro

2:45 AM

yeah

the need review is always ~300 so far

(the feature's only been live for a few days)

so if we can drive the needs-review down we can get out from underneath the hole

then we'll be good to go!

aking1012

it's weird i've only used it like 3 times and i'm 4th from the top on the list of reviewers...

ajmitch

it's that new

aking1012

and, i'm out

The Interrupter

3:02 AM

Can you answer this? Asking for a SSTP connecting configuration file for using SSTP command line http://askubuntu.com/q/174444?atw=1 #networking

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on August 17, 2012 at 2:55 AM

msPeachy

@aking1012 Good night

aking1012

@msPeachy i meant of votes not for sleep

msPeachy

@aking1012 Oh, I forgot, you don't sleep, :))

aking1012

napped a little earlier

msPeachy

oh okay, good, is it like midnight there right now?

aking1012

3:07 AM

something like that yes. i slept a little a couple hours ago, but the A/C is set to hung meat. it was cold enough to wake me up

msPeachy

air condition?

aking1012

yes. it seems like a good idea until it's set too low

msPeachy

only rich people can afford AC here

aking1012

it's abnormal not to have it here, but i'm a wouldn't use it much kind of fellow

msPeachy

One of the reasons I sometimes get a flu is of the AC in my classroom, then when I get out of the room is so hot(warm), plus I also don't have AC at room, my body just can't seem to adjust

@aking1012 Why? Is it that hot there?

aking1012

3:15 AM

no. slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2006/08/… 87 percent of homes have it

more have window unit A/C...so it's odd not to have it

@Roland on cookies:

►

msPeachy

@aking1012 I see, well most of the houses here are open, too many windows

George Edison

@aking1012: Well... I kind of just replaced the symbol with its literal string value.

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison as long as it works right...

George Edison

It worked, so... that's good...

aking1012

so you didn't just move the:
_whatever = whatever;
whatever = char [];
declaration? *if i remember it right*

@msPeachy phillipines, so i guess that makes sense. water damage being common? so thick walls or burying shipping containers for environmental control is right out

Roland Taylor

3:25 AM

Hi everyone

msPeachy

@aking1012 yes phipplines

@RolandTaylor hey you

aking1012

@RolandTaylor hi i thought you might get a kick out of the cookies video

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy oi :)

@aking1012 lol thanks :D

aking1012

@msPeachy yes that is what i was thinking. wind and monsoon season would make the burying shipping containers for housing thing not-economical (along with population density)

msPeachy

@aking1012 when I was a little girl, that's what our house looked liked, when me and my sisters got a job, we built a bigger one

Roland Taylor

3:28 AM

OH NO

NOW I know what it is D:

Share it maybe... call me maybe...

aahhhhhhhhhh

@msPeachy that's actually kinda cool

aking1012

@msPeachy see family units here tend to operate differently. instead of building a larger family unit and standard of living there's an irrational push for everyone to have their own little piece of consumerism

needs to stop before it turns into a rant

msPeachy

@aking1012 :)) I know it's different there. You all seem to want to move out and be independent.

While we can't bear to leave our family, parents, siblings, we are taught at the very early age that family's all you've really got and God.

aking1012

not necessarily. it's culture shock from a previous generation when that was anticipated and a later generation experiencing the impact of worthless degrees/certifications

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor it is?

I'm trying to find a photo of our house now.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy to me

(oh no dejavu)

msPeachy

3:37 AM

I remember when I was still in high school, that every time it rained most of our clothes and things would get wet from the rain, and if there's a typhoon we all have to evacuate

@RolandTaylor why dejavu?

Roland Taylor

:(

@msPeachy because I remember some parts of this conversation

or one like it

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor our conversation?

Roland Taylor

I think we said some of the same things before

or at least I hope so :{

George Edison

Lol... giveupandusetables.com

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Roland Taylor

I tend to have dejavu a lot (or see things before they happen)... but I very sure we had some of this conversation when we first met on here

aking1012

3:39 AM

@RolandTaylor the joke is glitch in the matrix, but this is way funnier

Roland Taylor

(including me saying dejavu)

@aking1012 lol

@GeorgeEdison so many times lol

George Edison

That's not even the best one.

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison i'm having a sort of similar issue with kivy using size hints based on percentage and a slider widget needing a fixed button size.

George Edison

shouldiusetablesforlayout.com

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison oh you

lol

msPeachy

3:42 AM

@RolandTaylor oh I see

George Edison

View source for an extra treat.

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison let me guess, tables :D

George Edison

Nope.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy at least it's not like my worst Dejavu ever. We even have a picture from the night. I finished my parent's sentences that night, and it was flipping disturbing o_o

msPeachy

@aking1012 well degrees and certifications are not that worthless

Roland Taylor

3:44 AM

Okay back on topic now

aking1012

@msPeachy erm...my experience has been different

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison LOL

Found it :D

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison you can't tell me this doesn't look better than the other though

George Edison

Yup.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor all the topics now are off-topic

Roland Taylor

3:48 AM

@msPeachy lol you have a point there.

msPeachy

@aking1012 I see. It helps to have a degree and all that, like I wouldn't have been able to help my parents live a better life if it wasn't for my degree and certificates. I do understand your point, when I graduated, I had a hard time finding a job, it seems like whatever I went through in school for 14 years were worthless, but I did find a good job three years later.

aking1012

i had a relatively more steep deadline

code for both sets of UI: sendspace.com/file/px6amr

msPeachy

4:14 AM

@RolandTaylor finally tried editing tag wikis

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy awesome

George Edison

I'm moving all of the branches and recipes to ~win-cross-dev so anyone in the team can help.

Announcement: I am looking for anyone interested in cross-platform development targeting Win32/64 and familiar with Debian packaging, GNU automake / CMake, and Launchpad to help out with the project. It is ambitious.

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aking1012

I like the project, but I am with imminent loss of internet sir...you still got a star though

George Edison

Thanks. I totally understand.

It might take a bit of momentum before people start hoping on board.

Once I actually succeed in cross-compiling something like the Gimp... then people might be interested.

aking1012

No I mean, if I had the requisites time, internet, etc, etc I could def see putting a couple of hours a day towards that type of project. I'm amazed that it just happened

Roland Taylor

4:24 AM

@msPeachy I'm approving as you go :)

George Edison

What's really fun is using my Python 'wincross' script.

All I have to do to cross-compile a source tarball is:

wincross configure

...or for Win64:

wincross configure --architecture=64

...and the script sets all the environment variables, etc.

aking1012

that's interesting do they have a script for:

rimshot

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor Sorry for the delay, didn't notice the chat windows was closed, thank you for the approvals.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy you're welcome

George Edison

I'll have about 3 or 4 packages to build once the PPA builders come back online.

aking1012

4:30 AM

@GeorgeEdison we know you're awesome...you don't have to keep proving it...

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor it pays to have friends in higher places.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy it pays to have friends - at all :D

but yes, it does :)

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor or should I say, it pays to have friends with 2k+ reps

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy ;)

aking1012

@msPeachy you got it right the first time

Roland Taylor

4:32 AM

speaking of which, I'm 2k away from 30k

msPeachy

@aking1012 lol

you mean this is the only time I wrote something, you agreed on?

@RolandTaylor i'll get you to 30k

aking1012

i agree with you quite often, i just don't voice "affirmative". so silence is either agreement or indifference

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy :O don't vote for me too many times at once

msPeachy

@aking1012 good

@RolandTaylor oh I only do it 3 times a day, if I don't forget, lol

Roland Taylor

oh that's cool ^_^

I hope you vote only on my good answers lol

msPeachy

4:38 AM

Of course I read it first. I've actually bookmarked you and other awesome members' profiles, so it is easier to vote. But I only do that, once I'm done reviewing answers and questions on which I do vote too, If I have votes left, that's when I visit your profiles.

Roland Taylor

Ahh

You're very organized ^_^

me gusta

msPeachy

me gusto

Roland Taylor

lol dialects

msPeachy

yeah, there are actually dialects here that is almost if not similar to Spanish

Roland Taylor

it's really confusing here in the Caribbean, because there are some changes to the language such as the replacement of v with b and b with v

msPeachy

4:49 AM

you do speak English there?

@RolandTaylor I only get to speak English in my classroom

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy yeah my country's official language is English

msPeachy

good for you

Roland Taylor

there is some discussion going on about adding Spanish as a second language

we have a local dialect as well, but it's rather loose

msPeachy

I only get to practice my English here or inside my classroom but I do need to translate everything that I say to our native language too

Roland Taylor

wow that must not be easy

msPeachy

4:53 AM

it isn't

I'm struggling with my English! coz I don't get to practice it orally as much as I want to

Roland Taylor

:(

most people there don't speak English, right?

msPeachy

I once work on an Internet cafe which was just next door to a hotel and foreigners just come and go, rent the computer and all, I had a hard time talking to them, I mean I know what I want to say but I just can't think or say it fast enough.

aking1012

from a number of people i talked to, there are large-ish expatriate english speaking communities in the phillipines...although not necessarily in your area

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor Most doesn't speak English but most do understand English

we can't just speak it well

aking1012

same with me and french...i think that's a use thing

Roland Taylor

4:56 AM

@msPeachy oh I understand

it's kind of a shame though that English has such dominance in the world

it is us English speakers who should be forced to integrate by learning other languages

(just my opinion)

msPeachy

@aking1012 Yes there are, in Makati, Manila and Cebu

@RolandTaylor Well, what other languages do you understand and speak?

aking1012

@RolandTaylor on that one, i kind of have to disagree...whatever is dominant should be at least understood. if you're trying to communicate across a language barrier the fact that i can speak english but understand french could help. speaking a bunch of languages isn't necessarily requisite

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy currently only a little Spanish

@aking1012 I have a lot of respect for those who can speak multiple languages and are forced to learn English, because in my opinion it wouldn't be this way if history had gone a little differently, and it kinda ticks me off when people think that someone isn't intelligent because they don't speak the dominant language

msPeachy

I speak 3, English and 2 local language, I understand a little bit of Spanish and tiny bit of Nihongo

Roland Taylor

/rant

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