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The Interrupter

00:09

Bounty offered: How do I reset my Unity configuration? http://askubuntu.com/q/17610?atw=1 #unity

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 3, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Jorge Castro

@AnwarShah Nice work finding those duplicates!

Eliah Kagan

Indeed!

Btw 1 more close vote needed to close this one as a duplicate:

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Q: System info not displaying graphics driver and type

System info not displaying graphics driver and type, even though all drivers are installed. when ever i open system info, it says that the graphics are unknown, the same being shown in virtual box. please help, my config is ubuntu 11.10 amd64, AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor × 2, Nvidia G...

Same situation here:

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Q: Why do Intel HD3000 graphics show as "unknown" on my Lenovo B570?

Well as it says in the question title, I'm running a Lenovo-B570, I have an Intel HD Graphics 3000 integrated card, and inside the graphics thing it says Unknown, and Standard experience, I have tried doing other things I have seen on AskUbuntu but, once I get other drivers to show up, it starts ...

graphics intel lenovo

Same deal here (though this is a dupe of a different, unrelated question):

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Q: US Lubuntu install to a Windows NetBook

Looking to install to a windows xp home netbook with only 1.75GB of a 15GB SSD drive. have the lubuntu file downloaded to another machine with a CD ROM. The netbook has USB ports but no CD ROM. Must I still go through an ISO disc creation to do a USB install? Guidance sought

usb lubuntu iso

Jorge Castro

I've gone through the entire close queue, so I'm caught up

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Yeah, I figured you probably had. I'm hoping maybe someone else will see these and close them faster...I'm only posting the ones that already have 4 votes. Here's another:

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Q: Ubuntu does not recognize my geforce 540M

When I go into system info, it says "graphics unknown". Can Ubuntu 11.10 be made to recognize my 540M Geforce driver? Does it matter? Unity seems to be working fine (I installed bumblebee).

11.10 nvidia graphics

(Actually I guess that one needs 2 more ....sorry.)

Jorge Castro

00:26

yeah

however I am finding that just getting it in the queue usually gets it closed fast

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Cool.

Btw, I think we should reopen this question. I don't think it's too open-ended...though perhaps it should be made community wiki:

Jorge Castro

if only I had 38497539845 more close votes! shakes fist

Eliah Kagan

-2

Q: How are workspaces useful?

I want to know why to use workspaces. I have seen many people using it but I don't know why to use it. Can anyone tell me why?

12.04 workspaces

Jorge Castro

/me unversions it too

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Thx for that edit. If ever I have seen a question that didn't need a release version tag, that was it! :-)

Jorge Castro

00:34

heh

ajmitch

hi

ccrama

00:47

Hello, i was trying to copy my harddrive ovver to my ssd with clonezilla and my partition on the Hd is too large to fit on my 120 GB ssd

what is the command to shrink the harddrive partition

im on ubuntu server 12.04

I'm trying to copy

Eliah Kagan

In comments, people seem to be saying this is not a bug after all. Is that the case? Since not being Ubuntu-specific isn't actually reason to close a question on AU, does that mean we should be reopening this? (I'm interested in anyone's opinion.)

-1

Q: Caught segmentation error, dumping stack , cause?

I am receiving this error periodically (and the daemon crashes) when running lots of rTorrent daemons with lots of files, could someone please tell me what is causing this and how to fix it? rTorrent has quite a few tickets with the same errors on high load machines, however they seem to keep clo...

12.04

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Q: Let's reopen question about why/how to use workspaces

I think we should reopen this question about why and how to use workspaces: How are workspaces useful? It has some good answers already, but if it's reopened, perhaps even more thorough answers will be posted. I don't think it's too open-ended...though I could see a possible argument for mak...

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ccrama

01:03

Whats the best way to make a complete backup of Ubuntu?

from command line

Jorge Castro

@EliahKagan Hey, I have an idea.

also, I don't see how "Since it is not Ubuntu-specific, it is off-topic." is any kind of policy

@ccrama help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem is a good start

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro I agree. Plenty of questions on AU also apply to one or more other operating systems besides Ubuntu.

@JorgeCastro What's your idea? (Or am I missing something?)

Jorge Castro

oh, unrelated to that

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Ah.

Jorge Castro

do we have a query for the "this should be closed as a bug report ..." that shows ones that are still open?

I was thinking

even if one runs out of votes

but keeps leaving the comment

then we can have a query for people to go through when they have votes

AbrahamVanHelpsing

01:10

the url http://askubuntu.com/questions/5121/how-do-i-report-a-bug in comment closed:0 would work for that

Eliah Kagan

That's a good idea.

Btw, I've reopen-voted this question (which I had originally close-voted, based on my previous belief it was a bug) with an explanation in a comment. I'd encourage others to do the same.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i have been kind of abstinent since the 28th

Eliah Kagan

Here's another question that would not have been closed if people had known that (1) questions that apply to other OSes as well as Ubuntu are allowed here, and (2) some programming questions are allowed here. I recommend reopen-voting it:

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Q: Is it possible for an application (written in Mono C#) to run a console command?

I am wondering if a Mono C# application running in Ubuntu can somehow run a terminal command. For example, could the user give the program his or her password and then have the application run sudo apt-get install application-name (console requests password) password (console requests confir...

command-line application-development mono c#

ccrama

Oh thanks Jeorge Castro . I used this script instead tar cvpzf ububackup.tgz –exclude=/ububackup.tgz –exclude=/proc –exclude=/mnt /

oh crap i forgot to put the --exclude=/ububackup.tgz

will it actually try to copy that?

:l

Eliah Kagan

Should we consider this NC / NARQ? Or should we consider this a good question?

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Q: what sre some of the basic sudo commands?

*I am looking to learn "Sudo" commands for the gnome terminal. I am an avid user of Ubuntu however id like very much to learn as many commands and shortcuts as possible. i am running ubuntu 123.04 32 bit. on a compaq presario cq60....i truly appreciate any and all help. thank you *

command-line sudo

Jorge Castro

01:24

@EliahKagan Ok I'm going to post on meta

any other examples of closing for no reason?

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Well that last one isn't an example of a question that was closed for no reason. It's totally unrelated to that issue (it's a currently open question that I'm wondering if we should close).

Jorge Castro

yeah I didn't mean that one

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Ah OK. Besides the examples above, I don't have any others right now, but I can search around for some more, for the next 10 minutes or so, if you like.

Jorge Castro

well, I posted a comment in the one

if it's more than say, 3 or 4 then it's probably a real problem

Eliah Kagan

01:38

@JorgeCastro I think this should also not have been closed. Skype and GTalk are both used in Ubuntu all the time. We shouldn't assume a user isn't using Ubuntu unless there is some reason to think they are not.

-1

Q: How can I talk to a gtalk user with skype?

Are there any Ubuntu based applications that will allow Google Talk users talk to Skype users?

skype

Plus, it has a reasonably good answer. Another answer would also be possible, pointing out that one can use Pidgin for GTalk and also to control the Skype client with skype-pidgin.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I think they were looking for a skype to gtalk bridge...which doesn't exist afaik

Eliah Kagan

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Right ...but I still see it as a perfectly good Ubuntu question. It could be tagged software-recommendation.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

fair i guess

Eliah Kagan

@JorgeCastro Do you think we should be closing bash scripting questions as off-topic and directing people to Stack Overflow?

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Q: How do I pass arguments from one script to another with modifications?

I want a script that I run thusly: logphone Foo Bar Which actually runs adb -d logcat dalvikvm:I ActivityManager:W AndroidRuntime:W Foo:* Bar:* *:S How do I do this with any number of parameters? Note that the order somewhat matters (Foo and Bar can't be at the end). Bash if it matters.

command-line scripts

We tend to allow questions about making GUI programs with Python, and questions about how to perform particular system tasks with shell scripts...so it seems to me that questions like that should be considered on-topic as well.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

you're running for a cliff on everything is on-topic so why do separate sites exist UL/AU merge argument from the powers that be on MSO ... just saying

Eliah Kagan

01:49

@AbrahamVanHelpsing The existence of some overlap does not mean that everything overlaps. But to answer your question, separate sites exist because there are separate communities. Almost everything in Unix.SE and Ask Ubuntu would probably be on topic on Server Fault, Super User, or both, but AU and Unix.SE still exist.

Similarly, there some gray area of overlap between Stack Overflow and Programmers.SE, but both sites work fine.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Oh, it's not my question. I just try not to provide fodder for the other side of the argument.

Eliah Kagan

@AbrahamVanHelpsing I understand. And the other side of the argument is valuable. It is not my intention to discourage you.

Btw, related:

Blog - Stack Exchange: Unix and Ubuntu: Why Both?

Robert Cartaino on August 13, 2010

Update: we ultimately put this to a vote on each community.

You may have noticed that two similar Area 51 site proposals have reached commitment and launched betas:

You might well ask: aren’t these the very same thing? Why have two communities on the same topic? What, then, is the difference between unix and ubuntu? The answer to this question cuts to the very heart of what community is.

I sometimes wonder what Stack Exchange would look like in an alternate universe; one where we, as Evil Stack Overflow Inc., bypassed the community-process of Area 51 and came up with our own site ideas; a series of logical subjects, neatly organized into their own Q&A sites. …

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I've seen all of both sides

Jorge Castro

I just don't get why we go after those questions when we desparately need votes on the flood of other offtopic crap

Journeyman Geek

02:06

eh, I think SU has the other arguement

bash scripting isn't programming

Eliah Kagan

03:24

Do we have a question we can dupe this to?

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Q: How do I fix Input/Output error during Lubuntu installation?

I tried to install Lubuntu on my PC (Pentium 4160 GB Hard disk, 1256 MB Ram). I have downloaded ISO image file from torrent which is on Lubuntu site, then burnt CD at 32x speed and tried to install on my PC. Installation wizard successfully loaded. When it started to copy file from CD to hard dr...

installation lubuntu

The Interrupter

Ask Ubuntu Birthday Celebration? http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/4162?atw=1

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 3, 2012 at 3:01 AM

George Edison

04:21

I'm making progress - I can actually get a stereo mix with VLC but then I can't hear what's playing.

Anwar Shah

04:46

good morning

@AbrahamVanHelpsing i see you changed your nick

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Q: Is there a way to ignore Unity ALT menu when using the terminal?

I frequently work with Emacs in the GNOME terminal on Ubuntu 12.04. I have a pretty vanilla setup at the moment and I keeping running into this one problem that I haven't been able to resolve. When using Emacs I frequently use ALT(meta) and probably one out of every ten times I use it my timing...

unity command-line alt

i voted it to close as a dupe

but disabling HUD

wasn't in the answers

:( one answer was deleted which at least work in Unity

@jokerdino i think you should undelete the answer

msPeachy

o/ y'all

Anwar Shah

o/

Eliah Kagan

05:10

Should we direct this user to report the situation as a bug and proceed with closing the question as a duplicate (or as off-topic)? Or should we do something else?

-1

Q: auto hide the launcher unity?

Today, I installed Geforce, new graphic card, and ubuntu 12.04, and i want to auto hide where the dash and launcher, it don't appear work, but before Radeon HD, it worked, whats happened? Any do you have a command to fix this for auto hide?

12.04 unity dash

This is what i tried, but it don't work, it may bug on geforce? but it worked on Radeon HD? Got it that? — user70901 4 mins ago

Anwar Shah

05:35

i voted it to close as dupe

but, i admit, i didn't fully read that

George Edison

Something to think about.

Anwar Shah

06:01

I think, you wanted to answer this question — Anwar 3 mins ago

Eliah Kagan

@ObsessiveFOSS You'll be happy to know that this question, which seems to have been wrongly closed, as been reopened. In the future, you may want to post on meta (as well as commenting as you've done here) to get questions reopened--it will generate more attention. Often when there's just a comment and a few reopen votes, wrongly closed questions languish for an extended time.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Let's reopen this question about setting up a Mint-like menu in Ubuntu

This is a question about how to get an interface in Ubuntu that resembles an interface available in Linux Mint: How to install Linux mint like menu/gnomenu in Ubuntu? This question is about Ubuntu. It mentions Linux Mint, but it is asking how to do something in Ubuntu. This is completely on-...

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Eliah Kagan

Does anyone have any ideas about why this isn't working?

I'm getting mount error(22): Invalid argument now. — Mild Fuzz 24 mins ago

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A: Mounting HFS+ drive over network, write not required

Use slashes (/) instead of backslashes (\). mount will accept slashes, and the problem with backslashes, even if they are accepted, is that a backslash is also a shell escape character. If you want the mount command to see \\, you would have to put \\\\ on the command line. So name the host-and...

Anwar Shah

I've seen an wrongly (really?) posted under a bountied question

So...your answer on how to reset Unity config in 12.10 is: compile it from source??? — izx 9 hours ago

-1. for posting on wrong place. Though the answer was good imo — Anwar 8 secs ago

@EliahKagan sorry, i don't havea any experience with hfs partitions

rebooting

Eliah Kagan

@AnwarShah It's really unlikely to have anything to do with the partition being HFS or HFS+. And least I don't think that's very relevant. It's a SMB/CIFS mount (over a network).

The Interrupter

06:18

Bounty offered: Mounting Samba share whenever it's available, unmounting when it's not http://askubuntu.com/q/194727?atw=1 #mount

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 3, 2012 at 6:01 AM

Ketan Patel

07:43

Hi everyone

Takkat

08:30

Should we really close a question with 20569 views? askubuntu.com/questions/125608/…

jokerdino

why is it offtopic?

Takkat

dunno either.

Also we have a close loop in the review line... :(

Amith KK

@Takkat Lets close and then reopen it

appears

Takkat

08:46

That's pretty like "close the door first if you want to open it"

msPeachy

lol

Takkat

disappears for a while

penreturn

\o

msPeachy

o/

penreturn

so everybody got error with gnome 3.6 \o/

The Interrupter

09:06

PSA: When reviewing, remember to think of the future! http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/4124?atw=1

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 3, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Mochan

Sorry to interrupt everyone, but I wanted to see peoples' opinion on editing. Personally I have seen many uncannily basic 'one word' edit as Ask Ubuntu specifically tell you not to do. I generally see edits to only the name and tags, and the body of the question is left in a total mess. What are your thoughts? Random I know, but it bugs me :S

jokerdino

sup

Mochan

@jokerdino Nothing much. I'm back ^o^

jokerdino

welcome back

Mochan

@jokerdino XD

jokerdino

09:09

personally, i would edit as much as possible to fix everything i see.

Mochan

I agree. The problem I see though are also that more 'famous' users are doing this. It bugs me because it's like... reputation hoarding... IDK

jokerdino

if you are above 2k, you don't get rep for editing

Mochan

Serious? Then why do they do it if there are no advantages? And not do a proper job of it?

-Please ignore my ranting, and God, no offence intended-

jokerdino

i don't know. sometimes, i am half asleep. so i fix just the tag

Eliah Kagan

@ObsessiveFOSS Should this question be reopened?

Mochan

09:14

@jokerdino True. But why do it if you don't--- Oh forget it. I know no-one cares :P

See ya'll. I'm going to live back in my hole and wait for Steam! :DD

jokerdino

@Mochan Heh, don't tell me that.

@Mochan And cya around.

anyone using gnome-shell in 12.04 and want to help me confirm a bug with addon compatibility ?

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: can i ask using my first/native language

Can I use my native language (Malay) to ask or answer a question at AskUbuntu? Is there any volunteer to translate my answer/question?

support languages

penreturn

thanks @fossfreedom will delete my question

fossfreedom

Whilst a little unfair - non-english questions are most often downvoted. Shame on the downvoters I think.

jokerdino

only when the non-english grammar is also terrible

fossfreedom

09:27

also unfair to non-native english speakers.

penreturn

<--

jokerdino

if your english grammar is terribly bad, write proper sentences in whatever mother tongue you are good in. if you write terrible mother tongue grammar, don't be surprised if i downvote you. If google translate gives me bad results, i would most probably downvote you of sheer frustration.

fossfreedom

:)

jokerdino

most french, spanish, german or very popular google translate language users shouldn't worry of a downvote from me.

penreturn

example : Adakah boleh saya menggunakan bahasa malaysia untuk bertanya dan menjawab di AskUbuntu.

Ada atau tidak sukarelawan untuk menterjemah soalan dan jawapan saya?

jokerdino

09:30

well, i don't remember downvoting a post because of language difference in the past couple of months though.

they are mostly translated before i get to them.

@penreturn berhatihati de ruang platform

that's pretty much what i know in malay. no offense

penreturn

^..^

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09:57

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Q: Ubuntu-specific programming questions are on-topic, so let's reopen this one

This (somewhat confusingly named question) question was closed, perhaps because it is asking something about programming. (It is, and has never been, in any way about Microsoft Windows. It's about the Unity Spread.) How do I access the windows spread programmatically? As Jorge Castro pointed ...

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ObsessiveFOSS

10:36

@EliahKagan Sorry for slow reply, but yes, I think it [the question] shoukd be reopened.

Eliah Kagan

10:54

@ObsessiveFOSS I've cast a reopen vote on it. Had you already voted to reopen it, and your vote expired? (Otherwise, since you agree it should be reopened, you may wish to do so.)

@ObsessiveFOSS You might also want to post on meta.

Unrelated, this question should be closed as a duplicate:

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Q: Chromium web browser segfault hangs (crashes) my ubuntu 12.04

I had installed Chrome browsers and after 2 days my machine hangs indefinitely, the only way to get access to my machine is restarting the machine ( which I hate, badly need expert help. This is what I see from the logs, thought it might be helpful: chromium-browse[2701]: segfault at bf44c680 i...

12.04 chromium

Of this question:

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Q: Chrome shutting down immediately on opening

While opening Google Chrome it immediately shutdown. It just started happening. How can I fix this. Maybe I need to reset all settings?

google-chrome

(I'm out of close votes for the day though, which is why I have not close voted that myself.)

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Q: Request to reopen this interesting question

This question(http://askubuntu.com/questions/186322/move-running-program-to-background-in-bash) was marked as duplicate by mistake(as it seems to me). The duplicate marked is: Running programs in the background from terminal The pointed out duplicate answers various ways to send a program to back...

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smartboyhw

11:10

Hi guys

Promotion :P : marathon.ubuntuonair.com

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@smartboyhw isn't that already star-pinned on room topics with 11 stars?

smartboyhw

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Oops sorry:P

Eliah Kagan

This question should be closed as a duplicate:

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Q: Is it possible to get a status report from cp?

Is it possible to get a status report from the command line tool cp? The statusreport should be similar to the one that Nautilus (or any other file manager) gives when copying files. It should either show the remaining files that should get copied or the remaining MB that should get copied.

command-line

Of this question:

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Q: Progress and speed with 'cp'?

When copying files using cp, is it possible to display the progress and speed of the transfer? Otherwise, is there any alternative command line utility that can achieve this?

server command-line clipboard

This question should be closed as off-topic, as it's about an OS that is neither Ubuntu nor an official Ubuntu derivative (and is not also about Ubuntu):

-1

Q: Failed to Download BioLinux 6

I am trying to download BioLinux.iso from http://distro.ibiblio.org/bio-linux/iso/bio-linux-6-latest.iso But It getting failed without giving any error? Pls find the solution for it or provide me a torrent link for Biolinux.. Thanks Manju Rawat

12.04

jokerdino

11:36

woah

smartboyhw

@jokerdino er?

jokerdino

oh man, you are back

smartboyhw

@jokerdino Yes I am:P

Journeyman Geek

<_<

@jokerdino: I suppose, I for one don't

fossfreedom

@jokerdino diplomatic...

jokerdino

11:41

@JourneymanGeek Not you. You say much more than just lol :P

@fossfreedom trying to install debian unstable deprived me of any diplomatic relation.

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: not today. I feel utterly brainded ;p

fossfreedom

@jokerdino your clue is in the name!

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: eheh. I feel that way about centos. Its a pain in the butt slinging packages I take for granted into it ;p

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek you should try install debian unstable

Journeyman Geek

done that before

sid isn't it?

jokerdino

11:43

yeah

Journeyman Geek

had an install running for a bit back in the day ;p

jokerdino

@fossfreedom i had no idea what i was thinking before i attempted to install it

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: I'm tempted to make a bad joke.

but naw, too soon

smartboyhw

Hi @JourneymanGeek @fossfreedom

Journeyman Geek

read about the poor kid in @jokerdino's school dying

jokerdino

11:44

@JourneymanGeek lol

@JourneymanGeek who's that?

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek LOL

Journeyman Geek

So i am NOT making jokes about gas leaks

fossfreedom

@smartboyhw o/

jokerdino

@smartboyhw it is NOT funny

Journeyman Geek

eh, people dying not funny

jokerdino

11:45

because I think someone actually died in my school a while ago

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: some vietnamese kid

I was reading about that CNB case

smartboyhw

OOps

jokerdino

i am not sure. there was a boy who died of cancer last month.

Igor

haha...

Journeyman Geek

eh, As i said, I'd have missed it. I hardly read the papers these days

I like to get my news from reliable sources, like rumours and little children

jokerdino

11:46

i happen to read every weekend

@JourneymanGeek sounds pretty reliable

Journeyman Geek

lol

TV show quote

jokerdino

ahh

Journeyman Geek

Sledge Hammer!

Sledge Hammer! is an American satirical police sitcom produced by New World Television that ran for two seasons on ABC from 1986 to 1988. The series was created by Alan Spencer and stars David Rasche as Inspector Sledge Hammer, a preposterous caricature of the standard "cop on the edge" character, whose name is apparently mutated from Mike Hammer. Indeed, Sledge Hammer is most strongly influenced by Clint Eastwood's Harry Callahan character. Al Jean and Mike Reiss, best known for their work on The Simpsons, wrote for the show and worked as story editors. At age 26, Alan Spencer was the...

smartboyhw

Yeah don't lol on Hong Kong for that Ship accident

Journeyman Geek

before your time

Death isn't funny

jokerdino

11:47

@JourneymanGeek quite a while before i guess

Journeyman Geek

usually.

Igor

I think you guys are getting too hard with @smartboyhw

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: Oh, I remember that show when I was a little kid

Igor

It was just a inocent joke

smartboyhw

@Igor No that is my own opinion sorry

My problem

Igor

11:48

r

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek i only remember Shakthimaan.

@Igor let's just say that i have run out of patience

Igor

It's ok, no problems ^^

jokerdino

it wouldn't a problem if he had gotten my hints. but even when i say it very obviously, he doesn't get it

AbrahamVanHelpsing

mudcrab doesn't know when to give up...check the lower left foot

jokerdino

bah, sounds like Joey wrote this for me

> So if this post annoys you bear in mind that you are free to pick and choose what you do read; you’re not obliged to read anything that you don’t think will interest you.

i don't have to read things that don't interest me. :>

Takkat

11:59

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A: How can I apply a LADSPA plugin to a PulseAudio stream?

Adding a LADSPA plugin to pulseaudio is done with module-ladspa-sink (to be found in /usr/lib32/pulse-0.9.21/modules from pulseaudio version >0.9.7). We install this module as an output sink where we can define the processing module and are able to send the processed signal to this newly created...

In case we need a canonical LADSPA question...

jokerdino

Takkat to the rescue.

Takkat

It itched me for some days.

Now I had some time playing with it. It was easier than thought.

jokerdino

not many LADSPA questions.

Takkat

Some are answered ;)

This one made me do it: askubuntu.com/questions/195077/…

jokerdino

looks like he is out of his depth

Takkat

12:05

He's a developer, come on. That's a piece of cake now. Well - Java may play better using gstreamer.

jokerdino

heh

Takkat

Listening to Madonna with a shift down an octave was fun enough to save the day.

Next step would be writing an app where we can change the shift while a stream is playing.

<-- will have no time for this

jokerdino

sounds like fun.

weekend project?

Takkat

Pah - if I don't write any bugs it's done in an hour...

<-- writes 1000 bugs in an hour

jokerdino

is that 1 or 1000?

we use comma as a delimiter

and dot for decimal

Takkat

12:10

One thousand

So all my projects end in a non-working state with me being tired of debugging.

jokerdino

heh, you are too awesome to enbug your projects :P

Takkat

lololol

jokerdino

so you specialize with sound, right?

i wish i can create my own special field or something

Takkat

@jokerdino I am not specialized at all. I choose what interests me at the moment.

jokerdino

right. that should what i should be focusing on.

Takkat

12:18

Sound is such a wide field. I always kept my hands off ALSA.

smartboyhw

Hi @Takkat

jokerdino

ALSA is PITA eh?

Takkat

o/ @smartboyhw

@jokerdino its not but its a whole set of procedures you'd need to understand...

jokerdino

O_o

Takkat

The more you try to understand the less you do.

It's always like that when approaching the kernel.

jokerdino

12:23

i think i might get into something.

Takkat

What would it be?

jokerdino

i dont know. i just purged half my scripts that i wrote last week :O

trying to recover using foremost

Takkat

Recovery it a narrow field.

Works or not.

Usually not ;P

jokerdino

:\

Takkat

I never ran Foremost.

jokerdino

12:25

neither did i

Takkat

The few cases were done with PhotoRec.

That worked because I was so lucky.

jokerdino

i am just hoping i am lucky

Takkat

You are!

jokerdino

because i have almost no backup

Takkat

Backups are for cowards

jokerdino

12:26

looks like they are coming back.

ah, feels slightly better

i'll let you know how foremost worked

Takkat

See? You are lucky.

Why backup when we have Foremost.

jokerdino

hehehe

well, apparently foremost is for recovering from flash drives or something

The Interrupter

Great answer: How do I pre-install Ubuntu for someone (OEM install)? http://askubuntu.com/a/193795?atw=1 #installation

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 3, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Takkat

@TheInterrupter wow - the shortest answer got the most upvotes!

Lengthyness kills content.

@jokerdino PhotoRec was developed to recover photos accidentally deleted from digicams.

jokerdino

too many pictures distracts

@Takkat oh, hence the name i guess

AbrahamVanHelpsing

12:31

foremost is for recovering from just about anything...

Takkat

"Forensic" tools were developed from crackers to get hold of deleted data. /jk

smartboyhw

@Takkat As this is a joke I'll just lmao:P

Luis Alvarado

Hi guys!. I wanted to ask if anybody has had any DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space problems on their hardware in 12.04, 12.10 or even using 12.10 with the 3.6 kernel

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i still say there needs to be a much better forensic software process...

like start with the claimed files, dump them and mark their disk presence as okay

check for file headers, if file format has checksum values verify those first, if okay, mark as occupied

eliminate "possibles" that traverse those areas and are claimed by other stuff

might speed up the process too...

Takkat

@LuisAlvarado I would have noticed if I had, would I?

jokerdino

12:34

turns out i didn't have to use foremost

i pressed ctrl-z fast enough that i didn't actually delete the files

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@LuisAlvarado not me

Takkat

@AbrahamVanHelpsing so true. Most tools are very rudimentary. Hope it'll get better with better file systems.

@jokerdino that was fast then. This trick usually does not work with me. All gone by the time my finger moves an inch.

jokerdino

heh, i might actually be lucky

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Takkat your hardware must be "too performant" ;)

Takkat

lol - yeah I am famous for my quick pull.

That even beats my dual core Athlon

:/

Luis Alvarado

12:38

I have tested scalpel, foremost and testdisk/photorec for a couple of years and I have to say that the best is first photorec, followed by foremost and then scalpel. In terms of friendlyness output, it would be foremost by a very long shot and then the other 2 but I would still stick with photorec because of the other ways it checks for files and the constant updates it gets.

Takkat

@LuisAlvarado and the very nice tutorial they give on their site!

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@LuisAlvarado meh, photorec is okay. there's a reason sleuthkit uses scalpel (which is ultimately based on foremost anyway)

if i get to choose, i'm all about some R-Studio

Luis Alvarado

actually more than ok after testing it on around 20 hdd from 4GB Quantum Fireball up to 2TB Seagates. Detected correctly more files, did it faster and had more video/image/document files recovered correctly than foremost. Around 3 to 4 times better than foremost in cases where the information was not only deleted recently but was lost for weeks or repartitioned/formatted.

jokerdino

i guess Luis has enough scalps to try his tests on ;)

BTW, your compiz cube answer worked brilliantly

Luis Alvarado

Did you test it on 12.10?

jokerdino

12:44

yes

i am on 12.10 and it works

Luis Alvarado

I guess a compiz plugin could be added that if activated will set all those steps automatically, after it gets disabled it would go back to the last setup. Like a "Unity Cube" or something.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

scalpel and foremost have more false positives on purpose...just saying...

jokerdino

perhaps. but i think unity devs wouldn't want to support another compiz plugins

Luis Alvarado

true

@AbrahamVanHelpsing correct but I like for example, the way foremost organizes the files in folders. Saves me time. The problem is that I have to start going through each file to see if it works like you mention.

jokerdino

if i want to reinstall 12.10, what folders should i be backing up?

Luis Alvarado

12:47

if you did not configure something manually, just backup your home

jokerdino

ok that one is done.

i actually want default config. happy to do away with configurations

Luis Alvarado

in my case I backup home, any mysql DB I am working on

the /var/www is only a sym link to /home/www

so it saves me from backing up my www folder

jokerdino

nice work.

Luis Alvarado

and since you want to reinstall it

then backup /var/cache/apt/archives

that will save you from downloading all packages again

jokerdino

i got the school b/w to crash

Luis Alvarado

12:50

put them back after reinstall and update manager will only download the new packages, not repeated ones, at least if you are like me with a poor connection

what you installed windows? ^^

jokerdino

no.

windows is preinstalled

i installed debian and fedora

i also want to get rid of so many swap and combine them if possible

Luis Alvarado

which I know is possible but have yet to test it hehe

jokerdino

haha, i would put a fat bounty when i am desperatre

Luis Alvarado

but let me make stuff up here, What could happen if for example, you install fedora first

and when installing debian you tell it that the partition for swap assigned to fedora is the same swap for debian

jokerdino

using the advanced options ah?

Luis Alvarado

12:54

what problems could happen from this since the swap format is the same, they are in a different partition and the swap gets deleted anyway

just asking since I haven't done a test yet

jokerdino

no idea.

i haven't done anything crazy yet

Luis Alvarado

going to test it with another distro when 12.10 comes out

jokerdino

good luck.

Luis Alvarado

reboot 5 times each and see how they behave

if the computer explodes ill let you know

Takkat

@LuisAlvarado don't hibernate then!

jokerdino

12:55

lol thanks much

i never hibernated in my life

Luis Alvarado

YES, that was the problem

jokerdino

ok not really. but ever since i installed 12.04

Takkat

<-- I hibernated once

Luis Alvarado

no, but yeah that was the problem when doing that, now I remember, hibernating while doing that will kill you

jokerdino

bbl. installing things.

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