Ask Ubuntu General Room

lazyPower

00:00

@JamesGifford!

ajmitch

@Rinzwind what was amusing was that the answer was to start up gnome-panel

James Gifford

@lazyPower Dude. The way you're hopping on me as soon as I pop in is almost freaky. ;)

Roland Taylor

@JamesGifford D:! hides

James Gifford

how're you? :)

Rinzwind

@ajmitch yeah. talking about messing up the easy way ;)

James Gifford

00:01

@RolandTaylor lol.

Roland Taylor

XD

Rinzwind

why can't we downvote comments :D

lazyPower

Good :) Was wondering where you have been hiding

Roland Taylor

I'm actually going afk for real for a few minutes :P, btw check the blog \o/

Rinzwind

blog?

Roland Taylor

00:02

He knows what I mean :D

Rinzwind

or more accurate 'the'?

James Gifford

@lazyPower I've been hiding in a movie theater for 11 hours yesterday. :)

Roland Taylor

he being @JamesGifford

Rinzwind

k :D

James Gifford

@Rinzwind the blahg. 2buntu.com

lazyPower

00:02

You got a job?

Rinzwind

@JamesGifford good movies? or working?

James Gifford

actually, I spent less than 2 hours of that actually watching a movie.

ajmitch

that 2buntu.com theme is nearly unreadable here

James Gifford

@ajmitch agreed.

Roland Taylor

@ajmitch fonts too small?

Rinzwind

00:03

dang the ff tip is useful

ajmitch

too small, text colour too light

Rinzwind

hate the colloring on the blog but I can fix that

James Gifford

I was actually at a geek conference @lazyPower @Rinzwind. Met a few cool folks.

lazyPower

Nice, i hit one of those up last week myself.

Roland Taylor

@ajmitch cool, noted ^^. I'll fix the fonts when I get back (I hope).

lazyPower

00:05

I'm addicted to meetups

James Gifford

I'm becoming addicted to meetups.

Rinzwind

@ajmitch text too small is nothing control-+ can not fix :)

links on the blog are not clickable :*

ajmitch

@Rinzwind it doesn't inspire me to read a blog if I have to zoom in & squint before I could read anything

I just close the tab & go on my way

Roland Taylor

@JamesGifford can you do CSS?

it should be a simple/quick fix :)

(Kudos if you get it done before I get back)

James Gifford

What, fix the font size?

Actually, @Thex is currently trying to get stacktack working. i'll work on it once he's done.

i don't want to overwrite his changes. :P

Roland Taylor

00:08

@JamesGifford stacktack?

Rinzwind

I want that quicklist editor :D

Roland Taylor

what's that?

James Gifford

Lets us embed AU posts and the accepted answer.

makes us better than a content farm. :P

Roland Taylor

oh sweet :D

James Gifford

(not just AU - any SE site)

Roland Taylor

00:09

aight - brb (will fix the font when I get back - it's a percentage lol)

James Gifford

@RolandTaylor ah ok. cya

Marco Ceppi

@JamesGifford I go to 7 a month :)

Rinzwind

bedtime :) c y next time

James Gifford

@MarcoCeppi I go to... 2. if I'm lucky.

Trying to get a LUG (Linux User Group) started in Cleveland

lazyPower

the topic of the last Pittsburgh LUG that i did not attend, was power consumption in data centers

sounded about as exciting as pulling teeth

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

00:18

Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, how much space is needed? http://bit.ly/lcJvlV #upgrade

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM

James Gifford

lol. i've got something neat cooked up for this first meeting (if we have it)

Marco Ceppi

Banshee has come a long way

James Gifford

00:41

@lazypower The only bad part about the conference was the main sponsor.

The Dreaded Enemy Major$0ft.

lazyPower

shrug ya cant escape them

they seem to be everywhere

that whole market penetration thing

youtube.com/watch?v=I99UHa2yUds&feature=related -- may be iphone specific but he's talking about MVC, which i find very interesting.

@JamesGifford do you understand MVC basics? and i mean MVC theory, not the popular misconception that it only exists in C# :P

James Gifford

The session run by the Opera browser lady about HTML5 was really funny. She kept talking about "those certain browsers that don't always work well" lol.

MVC=model, view controller? Yup.

lazyPower

haha, the blame-storm of the century, see: ie

I have that up in the background while working on some UML for class

Marco Ceppi

55 rep away from finally making 10k

lazyPower

wooo mod tools

Marco Ceppi

00:45

haha, can't wait to get those mod tools :)

Roland Taylor

vote for me!

lazyPower

bans roland

nah

Roland Taylor

:(

/me cries in a corner

lazyPower

gives @RolandTaylor a cookie

Marco Ceppi

I'm going to ban the next person who jokes about banning - lets try this policy out for a while :)

Roland Taylor

00:49

O.o

lazyPower

bannn hammar

Roland Taylor

D:

lazyPower

@MarcoCeppi can't you wait until 10k before you flex those super-mod-like-powers?

Roland Taylor

I can't watch

peeps

TheX

ljadf;lasdf

Roland Taylor

00:54

asdf,

TheX

01:27

@RolandTaylor lkjaldfj;afeer54

Roland Taylor

@TheX i

TheX

oi

Roland Taylor

z

TheX

01:43

what has been your favorite Ubuntu so far?

Roland Taylor

I'd have to say 11.04, and after that 7.10 followed by 8.10

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

03:16

Random mouse freeze on boot in Ubuntu 11.04 http://bit.ly/lQiXYu #1104

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 8, 2011 at 3:11 AM

George Edison

05:24

Anyone know how to run a .bat file in Wine?

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison type wine cmd.exe

George Edison

Well... I was actually needing to run it in a shell script.

So what ended up working was 'wine cmd /c some_bat_file.bat'

The /c seems to be required to execute the .bat file.

Stefano Palazzo

cool :)

George Edison

06:04

@StefanoPalazzo Any progress on the lens?

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

06:14

Java bin file won't install manually http://bit.ly/m4zcJm #java

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 8, 2011 at 6:11 AM

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison the last I heard, david callé can still reproduce the bug

I don't know what's going on at this point...

oh that reminds me, something very strange: if you look on the project page at launchpad.net/askubuntu-lens, there's a user "Sara-delacruz1" with "202 points", on their user page it says they're most active in the askubuntu-lens answer tracker (which isn't even set up)

I wonder what that's about

Takkat

06:46

Good morning all

Kaustubh P

07:17

good afternoon fellas!

Rinzwind

ola!

Takkat

Hi @Rinzwind

Kaustubh P

hello @Takkat

Rinzwind

It is cup final day in Holland! Go Ajax O

Takkat

Hi @KaustubhP

Kaustubh P

07:26

@Takkat dude, do you use banshee + lastfm?

Isnt is a single sig-on kind of thing? I have to allow banshee to use lastfm each time.

been nagging me from 2 days now..

Takkat

@KaustubhP sorry, I have so much got used to Guayadeque that I just don't feel to try out anything else atm

Kaustubh P

@Takkat cool, have to try it out then..

Takkat

G'deque is not so nicely integrated as is Banshee

They have a ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque with guayadeque-svn to get most recent bugfixes and frequent new features

htorque

07:42

morning

Takkat

Hi @htorque

Rinzwind

08:32

morning @htorque

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

09:12

Any editor that does autocompletion in Ubuntu? http://bit.ly/ktVgIg #gedit

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 8, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Rinzwind

stupid twitter. I was already on that one :(

I am requesting new feature: move to other stack-exchange forum :P

htorque

10:22

4

A: How to launch an application in 11.04 ?

Method 1: If you know (parts of) the name of the application, you can open the Dash by clicking on the Ubuntu icon in the top-left corner (or by pressing the Super key), then type the name and choose the application from the Applications search result (if there's only one result, you can directl...

can you see the images?

Rinzwind

yes!

can you in return advice on editing? :D

@htorque I see 6 images in that answer

htorque

where what

i don't get a list of suggested edits, i have to stumble over them

Rinzwind

no no no something else

see my comment to the opera quicklist here: askubuntu.com/questions/35488/…

would it be better to nuke his answer and completly rewrite it containing the things inside the link I posted there? Or let it be like this?

htorque

hm. guess i'd make it a new answer

Rinzwind

(basically opera got quicklist support and some other stufff natively so the answer is no longer valid).

hmmm never thought about that one :=D I'll start typing

htorque

10:32

the answer is still valid - it's a quicklist that does exactly what it says it's supposed to do

oh wait

Rinzwind

yes but when you open the file to edit it'll have alot more inside it :D

** waiting **

:=)

htorque

that's not exactly a quicklist like the others but a python script that adds progress and co support

well, go ahead and post it

Rinzwind

it's a dynamic quicklist ;) something canonical briefly mentioned but has no examples of :D

htorque

if the community likes it you get upvotes, if it doesn't you get downvoted

and if it doesn't care, then nothing happens

:D

Rinzwind

LOL

soooo

now I need to talk to myself in convincing me that getting downvoted is worth the risc :=)

htorque

10:36

it's a community question so you won't lose points (afaik)

Rinzwind

Thing is... it is not an answer to the question. That's what stopping me :D

htorque

(and you won't get downvotes - it's not wrong after all :P)

Rinzwind

CRAP

htorque

well, it says "custom launchers" and that's what it is

Rinzwind

something is burning seriously in the kitchen :X

brb :D :D If i do not come back in 5 call the firebrigade :X

htorque

10:38

finish your answer first, then have a look

:D

Rinzwind

oh man my kitchen is one big foggy area :X

I was making dinner (emphasis on was)

and forgor it while answerring on AU :X

Rinzwind

10:56

ok I posted an answer. Now to clean up my kitchen

Rinzwind

11:08

0

Q: shell tweak to show current path in addition

hello im using ubuntu 10.10 and now i got in the shell somthing like that: machine1user@mylinux:~: how can i change it to machine1user@mylinux:/my/current/path :~: ?

Sandeep_Kr_FOSS

Hi. I have a silly but urgent question to ask. How can I know that the ubutnu installed on my system is 32bit or 64bit ??

Rinzwind

that's easy :+

Sandeep_Kr_FOSS

@Rinzwind how ??

Rinzwind

uname is the command

uname -a

htorque

@SandeepKrFOSS start a gnome-terminal: Alt+F2 > gnome-terminal, then type the command Rinzwind posted

Sandeep_Kr_FOSS

11:12

I got this

Linux sandeep-PI945GCM 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

htorque

that would be a 32-bit installation

Sandeep_Kr_FOSS

what now ?

@htorque How ?

Rinzwind

file /sbin/init

shows: /sbin/init: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped

Sandeep_Kr_FOSS

ok

htorque

the i386 tells me it's a x86 cpu -> 32-bit

Sandeep_Kr_FOSS

11:13

thank you

Rinzwind

lol

but I didn't expect uname -a to show i686 :X

htorque

@SandeepKrFOSS for 64-bit it would return x86_64

Rinzwind

can I search au on my own answers? :-P

htorque

11:28

sure, just search for "user:me is:answer"

Rinzwind

you are quickly becomming my fav au member :=)

Alvar

How can I disable the grey highlighting on askubuntu.com? it highlights everything! :O It's just so annoying....

Rinzwind

@Alvar that gray thing is based on your tags

it is probably highlighing all 11.04 tags

Alvar

I HATE IT!

:P

Rinzwind

lol

Alvar

11:31

well can u disable it?

Rinzwind

well the last one complaining (that was yesterday) made a custom css.

Alvar

@marcoceppi @jorgecastro @stefanopalazzo @takkat can I disable the grey highlightening?

@Rinzwind well that's just LOL

There :P

meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1355/…

Rinzwind

lol I was looking at the history of this chat but can not find it :(

Alvar

haha

later got to study math now...

Rinzwind

bye! :)

and it is gray >:-D

hmmmmmm idea in getting lots of flag weight: 1. I change it to gray 1. someone else changes it to grey 3. another changes it back to gray. .... profit :D

askubuntu.com/questions/39500/…

answer is way out of what is asked :X

Alvar

11:49

epic lol fail

Rinzwind

seriously. not a word is related to the question :X

Alvar

ahah

Rinzwind

@htorque +1 on the gconftool. searched for it myself but kept ending up on compiz wiki :P

Alvar

why can't u get less than 1 rep? if you really suck on something you should be able to get like -100 :P

Rinzwind

----> -1 rep askubuntu.com/users/16779/abivajaja

:D

Alvar

11:58

no he/she has +1

Rinzwind

check his history ;)

it says +1 but he has 1 q and -1 rep on it :D

Alvar

yes true, but it doesn't show -1 on his page.. so no he has +1!

if he get's an upvote he will have 2 rep! (or how much u now gets for an upvote...)

Rinzwind

another one: askubuntu.com/questions/41258/problem-with-ppa-upload

Alvar

L0L

Rinzwind

is it me or does the error contain a hint to where to look for an answer?

should I ask if he did try that?

DARN! it is a bug :D answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/152715

Alvar

12:10

LOL

Rinzwind

Rosberg O

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

What are the message that pop up when the mouse is still called? http://bit.ly/kSi2hh #mouse

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Rinzwind

I feel like someone is stalking me on AU :P

And that one made me spill coca cola on my keyboard. Thanks twitter :P

Marco Ceppi

12:55

@Rinzwind why do you flag as duplicate and put an answer on the duplicated question?

Rinzwind

if you don' want me to do that I will stop :=)

but that one you are talking abiut I found the answer on uf and then realised to i should have checked for duplicates :D

Marco Ceppi

13:11

Typically what one would do is flag as duplicate and add a comment which should stop most other people from answering (since the answer already exists). If the answers on the thread that was duplicated suck I would recommend placing new answers there while the other one is being closed :)

Then there are special circumstances - like the older of the two threads has poor question wording, or little to no answers - and the newer one has amazing quality in how the question is asked and it's answers - so we'll close the older one in favor of the new one

Alvar

13:25

@MarcoCeppi ;) meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1355/…

On what date was askubuntu launched? I know it was in July 2010.

@MarcoCeppi Why don't I get more rep for questions on meta? :)

Marco Ceppi

No one does - meta does not give you rep

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi I know ;) I was asking why you don't get it! ;)

Rinzwind

@MarcoCeppi thx :)

and why not called that tag "non-gray" :D

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar Private beta started on 07/28/2010; Public beta started 08/04/2010; Site officially launched in October just a few days before Maverick

Rinzwind

and on a totally non related note: raspberrypi.org a Ubuntu powered 25 pound costing computer :D

Alvar

13:36

@Rinzwind that would be awesome!

Marco Ceppi

@Rinzwind Just put that in the likes box - it should take even if it doesn't exist

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi thank you! :) I was wondering when the site would become 1 years of age ;).

Rinzwind

LOL

it there someone regged on day 1?

I remember seeing a 1 year badge?

Alvar

@Rinzwind LOL :O

htorque

askubuntu.com/badges/13/yearling

Alvar

13:38

you should start count from the official release...

Rinzwind

meta.askubuntu.com/badges/13/yearling

crap I lost to @htorque

Alvar

@htorque is the man! :P

Rinzwind

and then that person has 199 rep :X

htorque

nah, i don't know

:P

Rinzwind

questions... is there a non-user sometimes kicking old questions? I saw one with no answer showing up; answered it but then realised it was from 2010 (with no editing done in the topic).

Alvar

13:42

what was the first... question, user, answer, upvote, etc on askubuntu?

ooo a meta question there...

Rinzwind

LOL

1st user Geoff Dalgas

user 1 gives a error 404; so it is this one: meta.askubuntu.com/users/2/geoff-dalgas

but he has a 101 rep so can not become a yearling :)

Alvar

on meta I was thinking of askubuntu lol

aaah got to go..

Marco Ceppi

13:56

@Rinzwind Yes, his name is Community - he is userid -1

The Community user will bump old unanswered questions, and do various cleanups on the site. But it's just a simple computer :)

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi like tweet bot :P

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, but community user is much smarter than tweetbot

Allan

14:11

@all Anyone around going to UDS tomorrow?

karthick87

How to find a file of a particular extension ?

1

Q: How to copy/paste text from remote system?

I used to access a remote system via VNC viewer, but when i copy some text from remote system and paste in my text editor(local system), nothing happens. Do i need to install any additional packages to achieve this task?

remote-access copy paste

Rinzwind

14:50

@karthick87 ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45488

@MarcoCeppi cool :)

@Av

@Alvar you thief!

Greg

15:05

Can someone tell me how to create a bootable image from existing files?

Kaustubh P

hmm.

@Greg sorry, that was just a random "hmm", co-incidently occuring after your question..

Greg

heh ok

Kaustubh P

@Greg you can chroot.

hang on, I have a how-to.

Google for remastersys. Then tell me, if thats not what you want.

Alternatively, you can read the Community Guide.

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

How to copy/paste text from remote system? http://bit.ly/kJvdtE #remoteaccess

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 8, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Allan

@karthick87 getting some love from twitter

Kaustubh P

15:15

Ok, I want to file a banshee bug. Anyway I can make it reproducable?

Greg

@KaustubhP basically I have all Windows installation files on a USB drive, and I want to install Windows in VirtualBox so I can test my applications

Kaustubh P

@Greg ah, I assuemd you were talking about Ubuntu. Well I am afraid I dont know if a Windows system can be chrooted. Let me search.

opens new Chromium tab, and begins googling

Greg

I'm searching too, but never done this before

Kaustubh P

I think we be searching for a method to do this:

Windows Imaging Format

The Windows Imaging Format (WIM) is a file-based disk image format. It was developed by Microsoft to deploy Windows Vista and all later Windows operating system releases, which use it as part of their standard installation procedure. It works equally well with older versions of Windows however, and is used as part of Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs. Design Like other disk image formats, a WIM file contains a set of files and associated filesystem metadata. However, unlike sector-based formats (such as .ISO, .CUE/.BIN used for CD and DVD images), WIM is file-based, which means that th...

Greg

I see

On the other hand, I already have Windows installed on a secondary partition. Could I use virtualbox to boot this?

I have tried, but don't think it's possible without a hack

Kaustubh P

15:25

I dont have a clue :( boot partitions and grub are my weak points..

never played with them enough to be confident enough to screw wid em.

Greg

same. I think I'll just boot into Windows for now for testing my apps

Kaustubh P

:)

Takkat

Hi all back from summer sun

Greg

@Takkat greetings

Kaustubh P

@Takkat sunburn much?

Takkat

15:30

Anybody knows how to setup external USB drives?

@KaustubhP: no sunburn but almost headache :P

Alvar

@Takkat how worm is it in germany these days?! we have like 20+

Greg

@Takkat how do you mean set up?

Takkat

@Alvar Worms are crawling at 28.8°C now at 17:30

Alvar

@Takkat OMG

Takkat

0

Q: Why is the data transfer rate so slow on my external USB 2.0 drive?

My external 1TB hard drive is connected to the front USB2.0 socket on my 11.04 box. When copying files I have a very slow data transfer rate rate of approx. 12 MB/sec maximum even though from the hard disk utility it says it is connected at high-speed USB (480 MB/s): This the output of lsusb: ...

11.04 usb-drive

Alvar

15:32

@Takkat thunderbolt is the future! ;) 12gbit/s

Takkat

I have another eSATA drive for the main machine

Alvar

where in germany is it 28+? :O

Takkat

South of course :P

Alvar

well LOL

Kaustubh P

@Takkat the front of the CPU always gives slow transfer. Connect it to the motherboard, and check.

Rinzwind

15:33

@Takkat he is using a slow cable >:-D

Kaustubh P

@Alvar it is 40* C here :O

Alvar

@KaustubhP well where are u ? in an oven?

Takkat

@KaustubhP lol

Kaustubh P

@Alvar India :)

Alvar

@KaustubhP haha

Rinzwind

15:34

it's 30+ in Holland for a 2nd day in a row :(

Alvar

south of sweden is a bit more chill, 20+ and a bit windy.. :/

don't complain...

Kaustubh P

@Alvar wow, you swedish?

Rinzwind

@Alvar you stole my tag :(

Alvar

@KaustubhP aha, so?

@Rinzwind what tag? "non-gray/grey"? ;)

Kaustubh P

@Alvar nah, have a friend in Löddeköpinge :)

Rinzwind

15:37

@Alvar I see through your acting attempt there! :=D

Alvar

@KaustubhP haha löddeköpinge... haha that's like 20km from here...

Takkat

@KaustubhP 13,1 MB/s at the back USB port :(

Alvar

@Rinzwind have you heard of a joke? that's what people do when they want to be funny? ;)

Rinzwind

@Takkat are you using the cable that came with the disc?

Takkat

@Rinzwind still lookin for another cable

Kaustubh P

15:38

@Alvar thats cool!

Rinzwind

@Takkat :D hmmm did you do a dmesg | tail after inserting the disc?

Alvar

@Takkat what is the read/write on the harddrive?

Kaustubh P

@Takkat hmm, thats strange. Even I have HiSpeed enabledd from the BIOS, but I never get more than 30 MiBps

Takkat

found a brand-new cable

Rinzwind

I found a 750 Gb disc. going to try it myself too :D

Takkat

15:43

@Rinzwind so what would this tell us?

Rinzwind

@Takkat it should say something with High Speed

Takkat

it says attached SCSI disk :S

new cable: 14.5 MB/s :'(

Rinzwind

hmm my disc doesn't auto mount :D

brb

Alvar

@Takkat the port how much can it produce? what is the max?

Takkat

@Alvar haven't benchmarked it but with sticks it seems o.k.

Alvar

15:50

@Takkat ok, but what can a usb 2.0 produce in the best conditions?

Universal Serial Bus

Universal Serial Bus (USB) is a specification to establish communication between devices and a host controller (usually a personal computer), developed and invented by Ajay Bhatt, while working for Intel. USB has effectively replaced a variety of interfaces such as serial and parallel ports. USB can connect computer peripherals such as mice, keyboards, digital cameras, printers, personal media players, flash drives, Network Adapters, and external hard drives. For many of those devices, USB has become the standard connection method. USB was designed for personal computers, but it h...

Takkat

supposedly up to 480 MB/s for the port but the disk will be slower

Rinzwind

regarding my previous statement: I have a dead 750 Gb disc :P

Alvar

I have a dead 80 gb disk :(

Takkat

@Rinzwind this is not much alive :P

my last dead disk was 20 GB (that was much then)

Rinzwind

my 500 Gb disc shows 480@disc utility

now for a big file transfer :D

Takkat

15:54

I'm curious

Rinzwind

28.5

Takkat

hmm that would save me 3 hours time :P

htorque

schedule for uds remote day 1 planned :D

unfortunately i can only listen to those sessions (best case)

are you guys taking part?

Takkat

not me

Alaukik

really cool app udev-notify.learnfree.eu

Rinzwind

15:58

0

Q: Can't make 10.04 beep

I am trying to use the "beep" command, but it doesn't beep any sound. I installed it with "sudo apt-get install beep", then I run "beep" and nothing happen (no error displayed or sound played). I've also ran "sudo modprobe pcspkr", and "sudo alsamixer", unmuted "beep" and put the db gain to 100....

sound compiz sound-problem

now who here wants his system to beep? :)

I even hate the login to make sound :X

@Alaukik looks nice :)

htorque

hm, don't you usually know that you just have plugged in some hardware without getting a notification? :P

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