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00:01
@GeorgeEdison: I'm in US and do have google music :)
@wisemonkey You do need facebook. Sorry about that
@MarcoCeppi: lol I was going over login page again :P
@wisemonkey Why are Canadians always waiting for American software / services / hardware? Why can't stuff get release here at the same time?
Oli
Oli
There's a question.
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison actually, I often ask myself the exact opposite.
00:04
@GeorgeEdison: don't ask me, I'm not pulling strings :P
@GeorgeEdison Move to America :)
jrg
jrg
Several iPhone devs release in Canada ~2/3 weeks before the US.
didn't know that
jrg
jrg
I know, Android and webOS users don't care, but I do. ;P
00:05
@jrg Wha... are you sure?
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison positive.
@MarcoCeppi Your country has its own problems... (debt, for example?).
jrg
jrg
@GeorgeEdison Primarily these guys, but i've seen others - toucharcade.com/2010/02/26/we-rule-launches-in-canada
Hmm... but I'll take early releases of hardware over an arcade game any day :)
jrg
jrg
Heh.
nice HP - almost 4 hours after I give you my email address, you actually send me the confirmation email.
and its not even a confirmation email! it's a "Oh hai, follow us on twitter, facebook and download our crapware"
00:11
You were trying to get another TouchPad, right?
jrg
jrg
nope. I registered the two new HP machines we have in the house. (mine and my sisters)
Ah.
downloading Gimp 2.7.3 dev.
I already have it
I guess
yup
I like single window mode :)
@GeorgeEdison Is that packaged?
I'm using the Windows version - but actually, yes, it is in a PPA.
00:28
yes its packaged under dev ppa
ohh my windows machine runs weekend to weekend -- just to play games ;)
doesn't even have pdf viewer -- just realized the other day :p
00:47
@wisemonkey Yeah, I know :P
Thankfully Chrome takes care of that.
works for me
ohh u r looking for particular plugin?
jrg
jrg
01:07
WebOS git repo is now up. It's empty though - github.com/hpwebos/webos
@jrg MOVE ALONG.
jrg
jrg
@MarcoCeppi NOTHING TO SEE HEREE!
jrg
jrg
NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. REALLY. >_>
thats wrong repo u found then :P
jrg
jrg
01:09
probably waiting for git push origin master to take place. :D
idiots opening dumb bug reports
jrg
jrg
i found bug 1 rather amusing.
couldn't resist filing #9 though. :P
oooh I can create tags :D
Too bad it's not bug #1
lol u guys seriously have too much time :P
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Q: Is there a way to determine if package depends on wine to run from its .deb?

wisemonkeyI would like to know if installed app will use wine server to run: for e.g. picasa once installed -- it uses wine to run, however I want to know that picasa will use wine before installing it. I've tried dpkg -I but doesn't show this particular info.

01:28
@MarcoCeppi Lol at #10 :)
01:43
Finally joined GitHub.
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You may never go back to LaunchPad :)
But GitHub doesn't have PPAs :)
PPAs are overrated :P
Can GitHub host downloads?
02:16
github.com/rlemon/UserScripts/raw/master/Upbar/bar.user.js Modification to Amithkk's 'UpBar' userscript.
02:26
Hey guys
Came with another question
Is it possible to disable Nautilus from drawing the desktop and removing its constant background process (since I never use icons) and replace with Marlin (I'll keep Nautilus since it's obviously necessary for Unity, but just to get rid of the Nautilus process since I don't want two file manager processes running in the background at the same time).
And another question (this one is quicker, I swear): Can Clementine edit music meta data files en masse like with Banshee, which can edit the metadata of all of the music files in an album at the same time?
and relating to the first question: Does drawing the desktop also mean having a desktop background or just the icons?
And another important thing relating to the second question: Can Clementine also update music file names as the metadata is edited?
Is there anyway to move the dash home button back onto the unity panel, like in 11.04?
02:42
Is there a way to determine if package depends on wine to run from its .deb? http://askubuntu.com/questions/86569/is-there-a-way-to-determine-if-package-depends-on-wine-to-run-from-its-deb #wine
02:54
now I just need to think of a useful userscript and i'll be golden.
this is fun
And now, another question
Is it possible to add a new header in LibreOffice, underneath the Default header in the list that pops up when you go to Header in the Insert menu?
Or more like can you save your current header so you can easily add that same header in the future?
03:19
Another comment about my first question: I know you can install Gnome Tweak Tool to prevent the drawing of the desktop, but I don't want to have to install an entire shell just to change one setting. Is there any other way?
ok - added readme :P i think this script has some real use now.
jrg
jrg
03:31
@MarcoCeppi yeah, wish it was. :D
04:04
Hello all!
@rlemon Thanks!
gave you credit :P
hope you don't mind.
@rlemon I totally forgot... Gotta publish it on my blog and maybe 2buntu
@rlemon Oh, I should thank you
Wait what? @GeorgeEdison is not on Github before? What's his idea
@rlemon You have some time with you?
well the readme on github is pretty much copy and paste ready (view mode) to wordpress so blogging it should be a sinch.
yea i got some time
I have another extensibility idea... which im not sure if it is implementable
go for it
04:10
1. As soon as we scroll to the top of the page (ie the "Transcript" etc) The bar would be completely hidden... so as to allow us to press teh buttonz
ahh i see the issue now.
and also to have it dynamically resize according to the size of the user element
@rlemon You must try Wordpress 3.3 Beta . Its awesome sausm
user element?
number of users?
kicked?
04:27
@rlemon Oh and some bug in git
rlemon and Robert Lemon are treated as different users
How do i merge 2 branches
no clue
ah got it
04:46
@AmithKK install my latest push
pulling
Heh.. remember when @ThomasWard was discussing git
From github.com:rlemon/UserScripts
 * branch            master     -> FETCH_HEAD
Already up-to-date.
ok try now. i had a few problems pushing my updated comments section while you were pulling ;)
hehe
crap
lost the readme
you got a copy of the good one pulled?
fixed.
05:02
From github.com:rlemon/UserScripts
 * branch            master     -> FETCH_HEAD
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:
	Upbar/README.md
Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge.
Aborting
so stash them.
or delete the file
or just goto the site :P
but if you have installed my latest update, what do you think of what I have done?
@rlemon It is awesome!
it's a little buggy when scrolling (the animations freeze because i'm setting the new hidden value.. i'll fix it in a few minutes)
amith@amith-desktop:~/Userscripts/Upbar$ git merge
fatal: You have not concluded your merge (MERGE_HEAD exists).
Please, commit your changes before you can merge.
amith@amith-desktop:~/Userscripts/Upbar$
and you see the coding differences between what you had written and how i refactored and made it readable.
you were creating a new dom element, inserting it, then selecting it back out of the dom and using it.. instead of just creating it.. using it.. then inserting it into the dom
05:07
@rlemon I have no idea what that means :D
$("body").append($("<div id='yo'>yo</div>"));
$("#yo").yadda();
you had something like that going on i think...
O.o I just purged Readme
fixed.
read my comment :P
commit*
I cant pull
amith@amith-desktop:~/Userscripts/Upbar$ git pull -u origin master
From github.com:rlemon/UserScripts
 * branch            master     -> FETCH_HEAD
Auto-merging Upbar/README.md
CONFLICT (add/add): Merge conflict in Upbar/README.md
Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result.
amith@amith-desktop:~/Userscripts/Upbar$
delete the repo on your pc and re pull it
my only thoughts
05:14
git reset --hard HEAD^
works
found another bug - fixed.
i should really test my commits before i push them.
next thing to add is 'sticky' option - so user can leave it open and disable the hovering effect.
just gotta add a little button in there and presto.
@rlemon Ah
but first a soda and a smoke. /* don't smoke kids */
One more thing.. why not make it auto appear for a few seconds if a user joins
thats asking for too much
lol
05:23
lol sorry
unicorns on the other hand...
Ah... making unicorns dance when a user enters? and make the unicorn angry when he is kicked?
lol
Can you answer this? Firefox: open downloaded files with system default application http://askubuntu.com/questions/79592/firefox-open-downloaded-files-with-system-default-application #firefox
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Q: Upbar for SE/SO chat

Amith KKrlemon and myself created a Userscript which moves the userbar on top... so that you can see more stars! UpBar The goal of this project was to gain more space on the sidebar of the StackExchange Chat System for user stars to be displayed. The User List is moved to a auto-hide bar in the top le...

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08:33
Is there a non-mono alternative to power saving tool Jupiter? http://askubuntu.com/questions/86609/is-there-a-non-mono-alternative-to-power-saving-tool-jupiter #softwarerecommendation
09:05
Hello all
09:16
That was the wrong link. If you think that the Stack Exchange data is impressive then you should take a look at the Stack Overflow data.
09:50
10:19
LOL
What is Ubuntu
@Jack Why, its an ancient African word meaning "I can't configure debian"
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@AmithKK Its is written there Ask Ubuntu so I asked :D
> :D :P
New here?
Sorry :P
yes
10:26
Jokes aside, Its an awesome debian based distro
Whats debian and distro :o
Debian is a Linux Kernel based OS
Distro means Distribution
@Jack why do you ask what is Ubuntu? curios...
@AmithKK that's Ubuntu as well...
Alvar you from?
so @AmithKK what do u do and you are from?
@Jack sweden :P
@Jack india I think :P
10:31
@Jack India
@AmithKK hmm so what do u do
@Alvar what else you think ;o
@Jack Me... Im 13... I do stuff :P
@Jack :O
<trollage>
@AmithKK so 13 dont do anything?
11:04
So, you have anything to say about the loco now @AmithKK? :P
Does anyone know how to get rid of this message?
@Greg to get rid of the message click close. To fix the problem behind the message...
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Q: How do I deal with "unauthenticated sources" errors in the Software Center?

b. e. hollenbeckAny install that I'm trying through the Software Center is telling me: "Requires installation of untrusted packages: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." I did an apt-get update from the command line, then removed the software sources that the k...

@Portablejim how do I get the "key number"?
run
apt-get update
in terminal
yeah, have done
I see no reference to PUBKEY
jrg
jrg
11:19
@AmithKK Descriptive. You... do stuff. :P
@Greg Install using the terminal.
@jokerdino huh?
jrg
jrg
install that package from the terminal
ninja'ed.
Or what @jrg said.
jrg
jrg
you was ninjad
11:20
@jrg @jokerdino What I'm trying to install is just click "update" on the update manager
jrg
jrg
@Greg oh.
I've got over 200 updates waiting because nothing will update
jrg
jrg
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
and then watch for the unathenticated error message.
just upgrade should be enough.
jrg
jrg
@jokerdino not if its a kernel update.
11:21
its upgrading ...
jrg
jrg
irrc, it'll tell you about the PUBKEY thingy, and you'll be able to add it.
Apparently, there are no pubkey problems.
one of the larger downloads is linux-image-3.0.0.14
So, it is a kernel update then.
you have to do dist-upgrade
what's caused this problem?
jrg
jrg
11:22
@Greg i don't know.
update-manager might be a little cranky today.
well I'm up to 60% now, we'll see how it fairs
if you have started downloading the packages, then you wont fail mid way.
@jokerdino its downloading through dist-upgrade - it never was able to start using the update manager
Yeah, I have experienced that.
when such a thing happens, I just install using the terminal.
It happens when you install from PPAs and such stuff
so, next time there's an update I'll have the same problem?
11:34
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Q: send task to background in an "if"

LanceBaynesWhy is this? if true; then sleep 3 &; fi bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;' I want to run sleep 3 in the background so that the command ["sleep 3" is just an example] would run in "paralell" style, so it finishes more faster. But I'm getting this: bash: syntax error near u...

Until they fix the broken update-manager, you have to.
... hmm
You can file a bug report to speed up the progress of them fixing it.
Bounty offered: Toggle horizontal, vertical and full window maximization within Unity? http://askubuntu.com/questions/84600/toggle-horizontal-vertical-and-full-window-maximization-within-unity #unity
11:57
good morning!
Hello there.
Wes
Wes
Hi,
http://askubuntu.com/questions/45022/very-strange-rosegarden-crash-issue

This question could possibly be cleaned up a bit. It's got an answer in the question itself. Also tagging it rosegarden probably couldn't hurt
12:22
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Q: How to /dev/null background processes "informational" output?

LanceBaynes[USER@SERVER ~] sleep 3 & [1] 5232 [USER@SERVER ~] [1]+ Done sleep 3 [USER@SERVER ~] How do I /dev/null these two messages?: [1] 5232 [1]+ Done sleep 3 p.s.: so I need the output of the process, but not the mentioned two lines!

12:32
close ze dup
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Q: Update manager - Not up to date

DeenaWhen my system is up to date, and even when I click CHECK button it is not showing any new updates. But my Update Manager, shows below message..!! "The Package information was last updated 12 days ago." What is this actually..?! Regards DD

jrg
jrg
If i could please have +2 for this so the system will mark it as answered and we can move on. :)
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A: Very strange rosegarden crash issue?

jrgAs you stated in your question: Deleting everything listed by find ~ -name "*rosegarden*" under home directory fixed the issue. Rosegarden creates some hidden directories and files that I suppose became corrupt. In this case, I'll see what causes the condition and file a bug.

(yes, its community wiki)
jrg
jrg
Thank you Bruno. :D
Wes
Wes
sorry jrg can't upvote
thanks for the cleanup though
jrg
jrg
no problem @Wes.
@Wes btw,
you can edit things yourself.
they'll go into the peer review tab,
Wes
Wes
12:41
with 3 rep?
ah okay
jrg
jrg
and then if the edit is approved you get +2 rep. My main source of rep for a very long time was edits. :D
Wes
Wes
yeah why do you need rep to vote seems a little strange
jrg
jrg
helps prevent abuse of the system.
Wes
Wes
To be honest I'm not sure you should lose up voting privilages if you place a bounty
13:06
@jrg upvoted
jrg
jrg
@Portablejim awesome, its now "answered". thanks.
I'm confused
Should I feel relieved, worried, terrified, panicking or all of the above?
jrg
jrg
?!?!!
Overall assessment: GREEN! Phew!
Bad sectors: 11! Hrm...
Self-tests: FAILED! OH MY GOD OH MY GOD _OH MY GOD_ __OH MY GOD__ ___OH MY GOD___
14:23
Can you answer this? Has anyone deployed Swift in an OpenStack environment using Juju? http://askubuntu.com/questions/85868/has-anyone-deployed-swift-in-an-openstack-environment-using-juju #juju
@badp Bad sectors 11?
You should panic.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAGAD
er
@OctavianDamiean Mine is at 15. (threshold 36) bad sectors.
How worrying is that figure (without good backups)?
jrg
jrg
lets just put it this way.
you're about half-way to losing everything.
so at 36 it goes to 0 data?
jrg
jrg
14:33
yeah, your disk dies.
it goes to where all old dead disks go.
that is, INTO THE CLOUD!
Theoretically you should never see a value > 0.
jrg
jrg
@OctavianDamiean shssssh. I want to pretend I know what I'm talking about, and you're bursting my bubble. :P
When your hard disk begins to show you a bad sector count you should be worried.
jrg
jrg
Can you reformat it and hope for the best? Or... is it hardware level?
nooooooo the minecraft server I am playing at is down :(
what will I do now?!?!
jrg
jrg
14:37
Lego, irl minecraft
@jrg ?!
@rlemon no...
jrg
jrg
Oh wait, you're on 11.04, which means you don't have juju. :P
@Alvar yes...
@rlemon no lego blocks can't fly.
14:38
@OctavianDamiean not really...
jrg
jrg
@Alvar in otherwords, make your own minecraft server
@jrg yeah :P
@jrg hmmm... my hardware is to weak
@Alvar neither can minecraft blocks... they don't actually fly, they 00110100011000101101
I run out of ram everyttime I play :P
@badp No really.
jrg
jrg
14:39
@Alvar just run normal minecraft then
lego can fly, if i throw it.
Lego ftw
@jrg where's the point in that?
@jrg That's like having a LAN with yourself and tell your mates to get out.. that's stupid...
My disk has 1,048,576,000 sectors (roughly)
After 1.5 years of power on time (almost 4 years of lifetime), 11 have failed
I'd say that's reasonable.
where's the program that can tell me in what state my disks are?
It's the disk tool.
14:41
disk utility
doh
found it..
Select a disk, pick the SMART data button.
I accedently opened caesar 3 2 times...
it hid under the system button..
jrg
jrg
not bad.
mine says 24.5 years in powered on field
jrg
jrg
14:45
internal or external?
Internal. :s
jrg
jrg
@jokerdino whoa. mine (old computer) says 291 days. :P
internal about 1.5 years old, laptop..
jrg
jrg
HOW OLD IS YOUR COMPUTER?!
14:46
one year and a half :s
@badp You should probably also know that every modern hard disk has a certain contingent of spare blocks which get automagically used when blocks fail. Now when the contingent is used up then your bad sectors count goes over 0.
Which is a bad thing.
I had a hard disk failure because of that.
Well yes all hard disks fail eventually
yay for Dropbox
Powered on: 1.5 Years
Head flying hours: 1.8 years
Power cycles: 978
Bad block is bad.
I hate this stupid laptop.
Time to buy a new one.
jrg
jrg
14:50
@jokerdino HP makes solid stuff.
And have to start all the backups.
Get a ThinkPad.
slaps @jrg with one of his broken HP consumer notebooks
Never ever buy HP consumer notebooks. Ever!
@jrg yea.. I do love Harry Potter and his band of misfit friends.
I think I'll look to moving my data onto my other drive that I have. It is about the same age, but has 0 bad sectors.
jrg
jrg
I'd rather get a consumer HP then a asus or acer. just putting that out there
14:52
All the same crap.
Get either a ThinkPad or a Dell business class notebook.
I have a Dell.
jrg
jrg
My consumer HP is much better quality then my Asus.
@jrg How old is it?
Just one more year and hopefully, this one will last that long.
jrg
jrg
@OctavianDamiean my HP? About 2 weeks. The Asus is over a year.
14:53
And then, I will buy a new one. :D
jrg
jrg
@jokerdino take care of it and it will.
@jrg We'll talk in about two years then. ;)
jrg
jrg
@OctavianDamiean in two years I'll be up for an upgrade anyway. :P I haz a plan.
Just keep the fingers crossed.
heh.
Two years ± six months is the EOL of HP consumer notebooks.
More plus than minus.
14:58
hi, are there any opportunities downloading updates as .deb package for ubuntu 10.04?
@opalgo What is the problem with updating it with the update manager or apt-get?

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