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8:33 AM
gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/184850/… is this really not generic programming?
 
nwp
9:30 AM
Arguably it has nothing to do with programming and belongs in dev-ops.
Also that poor guy trying to cross-compile instead of just getting a VM.
Also the CMake shill is only answering a tiny borderline irrelevant part of the question.
 
Yeah
And yeah you're probably right, not a great question on SO either
 
 
5 hours later…
2:11 PM
It looks like OP's satisfied with that answer, so I'd be inclined to let sleeping dogs lie there - unless anyone has recommended edits that could improve the question's focus?
 
I don't think there's anything that could make it game development specific
 
2:25 PM
this looks like maybe superuser?
it's not on topic here for sure
 
The best guess I have is that maybe GDSE has better knowledge of sfml than the other stacks? But I'm also not convinced & suspect there's a better home for it with more expertise than here.
@Almo According to their help, superuser is not about programming and software development, so it doesn't look like it should be sent there.
 
ok
 
Yeah, I wasn't able to find any parallel questions there with a quick search. I'm a bit stumped as to where this would belong then.
 
Might be because it's in beta, but I found the dev-ops help for on-topic rather unhelpful.
Glancing through a few pages of their questions, the tags don't seem to match up.
In fact, they don't have a cross platform tag at all.
 
nwp
2:43 PM
Does gamedev have that? I want to abuse it for a question about a Super Mario clone.
 
SO says that "software tools commonly used by programmers" is on-topic
 
Yes we do: cross-platform
 
nwp
It's probably good that I don't have an account.
 
Hey, at least you included an example image. That's already better than the bulk of our questions. ;)
 
3:16 PM
@Tyyppi_77 It seems this is the right answer
to me anyway
 
3:27 PM
We've got enough votes in this conversation then. So far only one vote has been registered officially.
 
ok voted on the question
thanks
 
if we aren't here to close several days old answered questions then whats even the point
 
For what it's worth, I don't really like the answer much. I agree with the characterization above as "CMake shill".
I'm a SCons shill, so I know what it's like ;)
 
Yeah, CMake isn't even the answer, it will just generate more or less the same compiler command lines OP already has
 
Currently my "game-server" is running on one machine... using a ecs as the architecture ... at some point i would like to have a way to add more "servers/machines" to scale horizontal... but i have no experience with that topic. As far as i know ( Knowledge from a few articles ) there multiple ways of doing this, for example one server per region, one server per world... one server for mobs, one for logins... but how is this done ?
Do you write new server code for each of the instances ? Or is it possible to provide one server code which is getting used by all of them ? How do the instances communicate with each others ( Usefull for mmos ) ? :/ Oh and is a "ECS" a good architecture for providing horizontal scaling ? If so what should we consider ? ^^
 
3:40 PM
Try to ask one question at a time. The more you pile on at once, the shallower we can go into any one aspect.
 
Well than the most interessting question is if a "ECS" is a good architecture for providing horizontal scaling... ^^
 
I'm not sure if those questions are related
 
What specific scaling problem are you currently finding hard to reconcile with your ECS architecture?
 
It sounds like he doesn't have it scaling yet, and is concerned about what issues he might run into before running into them.
just a hypothesis
 
Exactly
 
3:44 PM
Do you have any evidence that ECS might have a problem here? It's unclear to me how these topics would even be related.
 
^
 
Currently its just a single instance... simulating the game world... lets say i wanna have enough flexibility to add another instance to reduce the workload on the first instance... how do we do this ? Are we forced to hardcode what each of the instances should process ?
Or is there a way/architecture to let multiple instances operate on the same world
 
It sounds like you already know hard-coding would be a terrible solution here, so just don't do it. Control it with data.
How we do that depends on how you want to split responsibilities between these instances. For example, if they're responsible for completely separate regions that can only be crossed with a discrete teleport, then they have almost no interaction beyond sending each other messages about players teleporting between them.
 
And if its a real open world without teleportation ? The only way i could imagine is that each instance is listening for "child" instances... if one is available they transfer a set of entities to the child... this way each instance would split their workload once a new instance was added...
but this requires a huge server where all entities are laying inside the ram and all instances operate on their assigned sets... furthermore it may happens that one system from instance A modifies a entity from instance B
 
Then you need another way to parcel up responsibility. Maybe you divide your world into chunks, and each instance is responsible for maintaining and updating the entities in its chunks. It can then have lightweight "replica" entities for stuff in adjacent chunks visible from those regions, which it updates based on messages from the owning instance. Similarly, it sends information about entities in its bordering chunks to the neighbouring instance.
When an entity leaves one of my chunks into a neighbouring server's chunks, I send an ownership change message to pass the entity into the other server's authority. If it was a player, I tell the player to start talking to that server instead (unless you have a gateway server in front of these servers that handles that routing)
 
4:01 PM
What you are working on is not something we can give easy answers to
it's very complex, and the best programmers in the world struggle with these issues to make usable solutions in specific environments given the relevant product
so what I would recommend is start scaling your thing. Come to us with specific issues you have. not these super-broad questions about strategies
 
@DMGregory Thanks :) This way we could also add new instances on the fly... for example if a area is heavily used... @Almo I know, im sorry... already searched on several websites for implementation details... but mostly i only find pure theory :/ probably this is too big for one person, it looks like plenty of work...
 
It's moreso that every game does this a bit differently, because their needs are different. You won't find a simple universal recipe for a broad topic like this.
 
4:26 PM
@DMGregory how many hours did you put into the return of the obra dinn?
 
I think about 6 hours
 
And you've managed to find everyone's fate?
 
Yep
 
Woooa! You're good! I have put in about 12 hours so far and only found like 12-15 people!
 
4:42 PM
Maybe Switch is lying to me about the time played. It says "over 5 hours" but maybe there's more.
6 hours does sound low to me...
Do we have a third vote that this question is general programming / better for StackOverflow?
 
"Going once, going twice, do I hear three?"
 
(I'll confess I'm out of my depth on that one, so I want to get one more confirmation before exercising my binding vote)
 
@DMGregory i can take a look later
@DMGregory ah ok, I check on the savegame slot within the game!
 
Ah, that's more like it. In game it reports 8 hours.
 
Nice!
 
4:58 PM
I find they start to snowball a bit once you get past the halfway mark. The longest bit was sorting out all the topmen and seamen, since folks rarely call them by name.
I wish I'd realized the numbers on the hammocks corresponded to the crew manifest. That would have saved me some guessing.
 
Don't spoil it too much :p
It appears that I'm able to focus only on a single detail at once.
I found "obvious" elements only after 1 or 2 re-visits.
 
Same
 
It's a good game!
I wish the process to "go back" to a scene was easier than having to walk there, though.
 
Big time. I'd have liked it if I could use the book itself as a fast travel. Especially for The Calling. I had to scrub through those memories several times to catch everything going on, and it sucks when you can only do that in one direction sequentially.
 
Yes, I agree.
 
5:14 PM
Record it using OBS local recording. Then scrub through your recording of it. :)
 
They're 3D scenes to explore, so you have to go back if you want to check out a different angle.
 
5:53 PM
OH ok
:)
that's cool
 
6:16 PM
It is a very cool game. Really deep deduction gameplay, with a dead simple mechanical setup.
 
 
2 hours later…
8:26 PM
Not for kids though.
 

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