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6:12 AM
@DMGregory just never did it before
 
 
7 hours later…
1:36 PM
I hate that programmers say "indexes" when it should be "indices".
 
nwp
2:02 PM
You will hate it even more when you learn that "indexes" is correct.
 
user92578
why you gotta be like that
 
nwp
I just came out of a 2 hour meeting. I'll blame it on that.
 
:D
 
nwp
And looking at the starboard we have to make "vertexes" a thing.
 
:)
 
nwp
2:08 PM
:P
To be fair it also says "plural usually indices", but I will not show that part because it doesn't support my point.
Anyways, you should hate programmers for other things. Like choosing wrong when the question is "tabs or spaces?".
 
2:21 PM
Prescriptive grammar/spelling for the win. The dictionary there is listing what people do, not what they should.
 
user92578
I don't think that's how languages work
 
It's how they should work though
Like in Germany they periodically re-engineer the language
like "recently" they got rid of the curly B glyph.
it's still around, but fading.
 
nwp
I can totally understand that it's irritating by the way. I have cases like that too. And it really doesn't help when sometimes the dictionary says I'm wrong.
You mean ß?
That's still around and not fading.
 
If you let stuff come in through usage, you're gonna get stuff like "should of done something" entering the dictionary
english is confusing enough without letting this shit come in
 
user92578
I was in high school when they officially added a gender neutral 3rd person pronoun to Swedish
 
2:33 PM
oooh
We need one of those in english beyond "they"
 
user92578
han/hon/hen, he/she/"they", felt like a very natural addition (all though we weren't allowed to use it as the national examination board had not decided if they were going to allow it in the finals)
 
nwp
I read about a gender-neutral pronoun in context of the SO pronoun debacle, but I forgot it again.
You can make up rules and teach them so that future generations use the new rules, but "indices" is one of the ones I would get rid of. It's an exception to the rule and those are bad. Better just make it "indexs".
I think the pronoun was "yo". Basically "you" in possessive form.
 
@Tyyppi_77 looks natural from here; seems like a smart move
 
user92578
My personal annoyance is axis/axes
 
@nwp haha at the very least it would be indexes. Like boxes and foxes. English doesn't do "xs" for plural. :)
 
nwp
2:39 PM
Thief/thieves and staff/staves is also weird.
 
user92578
sheep
 
yeah
deer, shrimp, etc
English is kind of a mess
 
user92578
I feel like 80% of English in elementary school was word exams for exceptional word forms for verbs & nouns
 
nwp
@Almo I know, but they should. And we're remaking grammar. "s at the end, no exceptions". "Axiss".
 
yeah probably
 
nwp
2:41 PM
I think my English teacher at some point just said "Here are the 130 irregular verbs. Memorize them."
 
hahah
 
nwp
Also "be" is irregular even among the irregular verbs. We should change that. "I be, you be, he/she/it bes, we be, they be".
 
"to be" is so fucked up in so many languages.
I wonder why
 
nwp
Probably because it was one of the earliest words, predating grammar rules.
 
it's like the concept is so basic that people invent those words before they realize they're just conjugations for the same things.
 
nwp
2:52 PM
There is a Microsoft site about plural forms in all languages somewhere, kinda like this. They list like 8 categories of grammatical number systems to explain to programmers why "%d thing(s)" cannot be translated and that you need to express that differently.
 
oooh fun
 
I'm happy my job is not implementing translations in games.
 
haha
or unicode
 
@nwp Could go even further to E Prime and get rid of To Be entirely... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime
We had a nice system on Starlink where we could write "You have {0} {0?widget,widgets}" and that comma-separated list could grow to include as many plural forms as the language uses, in a standardized order, going off this list developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Localization/…
 
nwp
3:12 PM
That's really cool actually.
 
neato
 
3:27 PM
I'd love to be able to extend to to work with gendered language, so you could write something like "Vous avez {0?un, une} {0}" - inserting variable nouns into phrases is a nightmare without some mechanism of gender markup.
 
3:40 PM
Hello! Why when i download any game(zip) from itchio i dont get a notification about potential risk?
but i do get one when i download my game
 
user92578
Are they all fairly unknown games?
 
should i use something special?
 
user92578
What AV are you using?
 
the one that is built in
im on windows 10
 
user92578
Are the other executables signed?
 
3:44 PM
I dont think so. What should i do?
 
Sign your executable, or deal with the warning until enough users are recorded playing your game that Windows no longer considers it suspicious.
 
I also have the next issue
i gave my friend a link to my game today and she says that the game asks for openal32.dll file
but i was using static linking
and the game runs fine for me without any other files
 
user92578
You don't happen to have openal32 installed in your path?
 
I bet he does
 
ah found it
If you are using the sfml-audio module (regardless whether statically or dynamically), you must also copy the DLL of the external library needed by it, which is OpenAL32.dll.
 
3:52 PM
:)
 
nwp
Dependency Walker can help find all the dlls you need. Though it has some false-positives.
 
but why i m able to run the game without openal32.dll file?
 
user92578
Check your PATH
 
you can't run the game without it
 
nwp
@0x00004 You are not. It's just that you have openal32.dll installed and your Windows finds it. She and hers doesn't.
 
3:54 PM
you have it somewhere.
 
user92578
4:21 PM
currently writing reflection for my reflection so I know what I have reflected
 
user92578
good times
 
4:36 PM
O_o || o_O
3
You're through the looking glass now!
 
user92578
I need to implement like a reflection rendering system and reflect that, and then I can look into the reflection data for the reflection data for my reflection system
 
It's like one of those hall of mirrors effects where the reflection just recurses infinitely...
 
 
5 hours later…
10:14 PM
hey
 

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