Game Development

10:25 AM

@Tyyppi_77 Being a tool developer is a thing :)

I'd say video games have gone that far, that making both the programming and the design, is quite tiresome. Not impossible, but not easy without having one affecting the other in some way.

trollingchar

10:36 AM

hello

TomTsagk

Hey @trollingchar, how's it going?

trollingchar

I'm working

Also trying to learn Rust

TomTsagk

Ooh, what for ?

nwp

I've been messing with ~~JavaScript~~ ECMAScript6. It's kinda fun. I miss being able to specify types though.

trollingchar

@TomTsagk fun

TomTsagk

10:42 AM

@trollingchar Fair enough! I've heard really good things about it, what do you think so far?

@nwp Is this your first interaction with Javascript? :P

trollingchar

@TomTsagk An interesting language. However I have just started and can not say anything else

nwp

@TomTsagk Not quite. I've messed with a filter thing before for a Greasemonkey plugin.

TomTsagk

@nwp You are in for a wild trip. You'll need life insurance, preferably with psychiatrist sessions included.

@trollingchar Looking forward to hear your opinion in a few weeks, I've heard its speed is compared with languages like C

Vaillancourt

2:21 PM

@TomTsagk

brug

@Vaillancourt 👀❄

trollingchar

I like snow. The more the better!

TomTsagk

@Vaillancourt Woooooooooooow

Is that in your area?!

Vaillancourt

@TomTsagk Nope, that's in Newfoundland :/

TomTsagk

Oh wow, that looks insane! I don't think I've ever seen so much snow

Vaillancourt

2:33 PM

Me neither, not in one shot

TomTsagk

If I had that near my home, I'd just want to jump through it

Vaillancourt

Oh yeah!

TomTsagk

How does one move to Newfoundland again? haha

Vaillancourt

@TomTsagk I guess there are :P

Nowadays, anywhere you go, a shitstorm can hit you.

TomTsagk

3:27 PM

As someone coming from a gender-based language, how does one in english usually find a gender for an inanimate object?
One example I can think of, is people here referring to StackOverflow as "our sister site StackOverflow".

Vaillancourt

@TomTsagk From the English lessons I had in grade/high school, you just learn it. The same way you'd learn genders in a gender-based language.

TomTsagk

So is the word "site" always meant to be feminine? That makes sense

I don't think I've heard the phrase "our brother site" :P

Vaillancourt

I wouldn't know the details, sorry.

I know a ship is a She :P

but that's about it ;)

TomTsagk

That's interesting, I always thought there are no genders (even implied ones) in english

And everything inanimate is an "it"

Vaillancourt

They say "learn English, it's easy!", no, it's not.

Almo

3:38 PM

there's a rating system for how hard a language is to learn according to which ones you already know

I can't find it though... I'm only finding ratings based on already knowing english :(

TomTsagk

I would say learning german is easier than english for me, because it feels like the whole language is extremely structured

Almo

one example is english -> chinese is frickin hard because there are so many deep structural differences

english -> french isn't nearly as bad because as least the characters are the same and many words are shared

TomTsagk

I've met people going from english to learn chinese, and I can confirm

If I'm not wrong, they learn all the different characters non-stop during school, so it's not like someone can learn the whole language in a small amount of time

The Masked Rebel

4:17 PM

Hi

user92578

sup

The Masked Rebel

What's been happening while I've been gone

Vaillancourt

@TheMaskedRebel We grew older.

Almo

Just pronunciation in Chinese is a nightmare for us because of the four (I think there are four) intonations.

The Masked Rebel

SE seems to be in a little bit of trouble?

Almo

4:31 PM

looks like it to me

at least from our perspective

The Masked Rebel

What's happening

Almo

if they have enough clients for SO Enterprise, then they don't really need us anymore.

The Masked Rebel

I left a couple years ago

Almo

They're trying to go public, so they have to get their revenue numbers up.

that means corporate-style decision making is taking over (This is an opinion)

The Masked Rebel

And I want to know whether its really worth it to rejoin

Almo

4:32 PM

depends on how you feel about the moderator mess

twitter.com/gortok/status/1218161698105892864

this is a good reference

it includes links to things that will explain what it happening

I'm not planning to leave, but I don't have high hopes for what SE will look like in 5 years.

The Masked Rebel

@Almo Their posts sound like some PR edited script

Almo

agreed

The Masked Rebel

Maybe I'll just lurk here for a while and see what happens

Vaillancourt

Things are most likely not change in chat.

At least, I hope :D

user92578

Yeah nothing is happening here, go to SE meta for the drama.

Vaillancourt

4:43 PM

not going to change*

I haven't seen anything touching the chat yet; although it's not where the devs put their effort.

The Masked Rebel

@Tyyppi_77 Meta chat or the meta website

Vaillancourt

@TheMaskedRebel Meta website.

Or the Teacher's lounge (chat)

:P

user92578

cool kids club

Vaillancourt

Yeah, gotta be on the bouncer's list.

The Masked Rebel

-757

A: Firing Community Managers: Stack Exchange is not interested in cooperating with the community, is it?

You all should know that this is very hard for us. This is what I am able to share: As you have seen, today there were some changes on the Community Team. Out of respect for their privacy, we aren’t able to comment on any specific current or former employees. We’re seeking to align the company...

Sounds like a drafted statement

Vaillancourt

4:55 PM

> You all should know that this is very hard for us.

The Masked Rebel

> We’re seeking to align the company so that it can continue growing in 2020 and we continue to be committed in investing in the community and ensuring that it has a seat at the table as we keep moving forward.

Vaillancourt

Here, "for us" means "community managers". They're kind of stuck between the community and the upper management.

Almo

@TheMaskedRebel yeah this line struck me as really dorky

The Masked Rebel

THE COMMUNITY IS NOT A SHAREHOLDER

What's SO enterprise anyway

brug

The community is the product. Just like with Facebook.

Vaillancourt

5:02 PM

@brug Less than before, they push for SO for Teams (and careers).

brug

@Vaillancourt True. SO already has enough of a repository of knowledge that it would still remain a go to reference for years to come.

Meaning selling ads to visitors. (Which once again doesn't mean us anyway as most of us see very few of the ads.)

Vaillancourt

@brug Yes.

The Masked Rebel

I use ad blockers anyway

user92578

I do feel like a lot of stuff is also deprecating pretty fast

brug

same.

The Masked Rebel

5:04 PM

@Tyyppi_77 Like?

brug

@Tyyppi_77 Yes but if SO stopped doing new Q&A, how long would they still remain useful?

user92578

Any JS library is already obsolete :D

brug

Years prolly. Even as knowledge gaps began to grow they would remain for years.

user92578

@brug Years, but I'd say dead in probably 5?

brug

Years is a long time to bring in capital at that level with no continued investment while focusing on other enterprises.

user92578

5:07 PM

I don't think it actually is, especially as I feel like the ad revenue can't be a whole lot

brug

It's a lot if they are already considering the whole thing no longer worth the effort to maintain anyway.

Vaillancourt

I don't think they consider shutting the SO down, maybe just shut the "community" aspect of it.

Is there a community for Quora?

user92578

What's "community" here? Chat + Meta?

user92578

Comments?

user92578

User profile pages?

Vaillancourt

5:17 PM

Good question. I think mainly Meta, then chat. Comments are (supposed be) there for content improvement.

brug

I think for the point I am making the Community is the high-end contributors. The people who put in the bulk of the effort making the content. It is their contributions that make the content valuable.

Vaillancourt

5:36 PM

@brug What about those who don't produce content but make sure the content that is there is of high quality? Voters, flaggers/flag handlers, commenters, etc

brug

@Vaillancourt Yes everyone that puts in effort to make the content valuable. That's the community. Not just high rep users.

Vaillancourt

Yeah, ok :)

chat.stackexchange.com/users/272219/abhas-kumar-sinha

User has been removed.

user92578

ooh

user92578

5:53 PM

So I've been using std::variant very heavily in my codebase, basically replacing usual inheritance/interface based polymorphism with static polymorphism, and I'm quite liking it, but I dunno if it's the best practise

user92578

Like neverever would I have considered using this many unions anywhere

Vaillancourt

I guess if it works for you... :)

user92578

As a state machine I can justify it easily

Vaillancourt

We use shared_ptr because we did not want to implement a handle infrastructure... so in this context, "yeah, it's shared, but there should be only one instance"...

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