Game Development

12:24 AM

it's so much nicer to just learn how html and css work and write the code. I'd be surprised if there's ever a wysiwyg web editor that isn't horrible.

I've met professionals that use one just to get the layout right and then switch to editing the code themselves, but that's about it

MickLH

There's a subtle thing to consider here...

WYSIWYG editors are great for finishing, but not starting

You look at blankness and see nothing, but if you look at a half finished website you see what you want.

Almo

@IcyDefiance i hate interface programming

therefore, I hate writing html by hand

won't do it

MickLH

@Almo you should help me come up with a new style of GUI editor that doesn't suck

Almo

would be cool

MickLH

because I think there's some kind of deficiency between the point where you start blank, and after the skeleton is there

Chris

1:48 AM

@DH. Nice

Kevin van der Velden

7:46 AM

Oh, ludum dare next week

Chris

8:04 AM

Aye

Kevin van der Velden

I've got a friend coming over on saturday but I'll probably join in either the challenge or the jam is the theme is interesting

Maybe try out pyglet

Jon

9:33 AM

any of you nerds every called a webservice from webgl unity build?

Kevin van der Velden

Nope

Jon

There's around 32 trillion hidden just from the panama papers.

DON'T FORGET TO PAY YOUR FUCKEN TAXES YOU PEASANT SWINE PIECES OF SHIT.

Chris

9:49 AM

makes me feel like a pleb lol

Jon

You should, and people should be outraged over this, but guess what? We are still gonna pick on the guy the old lady that collects welfare.

Chris

I haven't used WebGL enough to do that, nah. WebGL makes me cringe, takes so long to compile, and ends up with disappointment at the end

Jon

github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts

Office automation scripts

If you work in an office and hate the boring shit you do every day -- this is for you

Chris

github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts/blob/master/php/… lol

Jon

connected to the coffee maker?

i had a friend that did this for fun at home -- he connected a coffee machine to his linux pc

it was pretty stupid

had to put the filter, coffee, and water in -- you might as well just hit the power button then and there

man I don't get it

this WS call takes so long

it literally freezes up the WEBGL screen

and if I do a co-routine, it doesn't finish before you go to the next scene.

fuck this idea

works fine on PC -- seems to me WebGL doesn't like to do anything properly.

Kevin van der Velden

10:10 AM

Have they finished webgl yet?

Last I heard it was still an early version not suited for actual projects

Jon

it is still shitty

graphics are all messed up , networking is a bitch

Kevin van der Velden

> So far, WebGL in Unity has been available as an unsupported preview technology

> So, the WebGL platform has significantly improved since we shipped the Preview in 5.0. However, this does not mean that all features of Unity will now suddenly work in WebGL,

Yes, you're using unfinished software and complaining that it's unfinished... duh?

Jon

I'm complaining that it sucks balls yeah, not complaining it is unfinished

Chris

docs.unity3d.com/Manual/UnityWebRequest.html

WebRequest

are you using that, or the old WWW?

Jon

i tried all of them

Chris

10:23 AM

;(

Jon

10:33 AM

by golly i fixed it up

it works

Chris

hooray

user92578

god damnit this bug

Chris

:(

Jon

10:51 AM

Bug, Bug, everywhere a Bug walkin' on the ceiling, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you fix the bug

Chris

I'm fixing a two-year-old bug in one of my Chrome extensions atm

yay motivation

user92578

lol

Chris

honestly, I hate using APIs that can change :(

Jon

you much rather use one that never changes and stays in the middle ages

Chris

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

but then someone else breaks it

and I have to fix it

not a good deal on my end

Jon

10:57 AM

yeah that stuff sucks

i wrote a shipping calculator for purolator api

still works

Chris

:D

trawling through old code, crazy SQL statements for Chrome to record things and update scores... voodoo magic that I don't plan on trying to touch up

plus this whole WebSQL spec is deprecated so could be dropped from the browser at any time lol, sigh

but anyway, that's not game development

Jon

You go so off topic sometimes

its ridiculous man

Chris

Please accept my sincerest apologies

Jon

sure... whatever... damage is already done

Chris

so I've submitted my Wii U build to nindy

and I should probably work on my Xbox One port next some more

need to create bloodless and goreless screenshots for Apple before they'll approve my new iOS build...

and sequel to work on and this extension to work on \o/

shoot me now

Jon

11:05 AM

at least you don't have a full time job

Chris

lmao

I've secured my own fate

NaCl

oooh there is a recent gamejam for german people, nice. Now I can refresh my html5

user92578

Got it

user92578

The player was thinking that an enemy was an ledge

user92578

Hence the player was trying to slip off the ledge

Chris

11:10 AM

:D

user92578

yeah... :D

user92578

did not think about that

user92578

11:40 AM

got death threats from a guy in twitch whispers :D

Chris

report him

Jon

just kill him first.

user92578

@Chris yeah I did that

user92578

11:58 AM

How would I go about resolving a collision where the colliding item is inside the collider without any velocity?

user92578

Basically because my guns don't check for collisions while they are held

user92578

If the player drops the weapon while the gun is inside a wall

user92578

The gun starts checking for collisions inside the wall without any velocity

user92578

Currently my collision resolution resolves based on the velocity the object came into the collider

wadry

@Tyyppi_77 maybe just make the player collision box a bit bigger to account for the gun and prevent the scenario in the first place?

user92578

12:01 PM

That would not be ideal really

DH.

So the problem is that your gun get stuck on the wall?

user92578

no, the problem is that it's resolved horribly wrong because the velocity used for resolving is not proper

user92578

so guns fly all over the place

PearsonArtPhoto

That sounds like an interesting sounding bug.

DH.

Oh, that's bad

Why not when the gun is dropped you make it move back so it doesn't get collisions on the wall? (or do it already at the first collision)

user92578

12:17 PM

Yeah I could probably do that however that might result in a hacky solution and cause even more bugs

user92578

But yeah, I could check if the gun is colliding with something when the player drops it

user92578

TBH that actually sounds like a good and easy fix

DH.

Yup

And to make sure that the gun isn't dropped to the other side of a wall you can make the gun move towards the player if it detects a collision

user92578

Actually I'll move the gun to the direction the player isn't facing

user92578

That should take care of that

DH.

12:22 PM

Yeah, that what I meant

user92578

Ah, yeah

wadry

12:55 PM

can the gun not just be positioned at the players feet when dropped

presumably the players feet are not in a wall

like ever

Jon

make it turn into a candy bar

wadry

@Jon so you can flip the candy and then half the map disappears?

Jon

sure

Jon

1:24 PM

I need to get myself a full length shot of myself like this

Fucken classy as fuck

Almo

Microdonuts!

kotaku.com/…

user92578

@Jon lol

Jon

@Almo those are cool and all, but that guy is a nut job

He has tiny stoves and utensils and shit

Like, he has been doing this for a while now

Almo

:D

Jon

I'm not joking man

youtube.com/channel/UCTFT5NbDl0Fa_fE9Cz_yOAA/videos

Almo

1:28 PM

I believed you

650k subscribers

damn man

that's more than 5-second films

Jon

a testament to the world

do something completely useless and batshit insane -- profit.

Almo

there's no audio

ok there is isome

Jon

No, its literally him making miniature food

Almo

I expected him talking about it

Jon

he is japanese

probably has all the women in japan freaking over him because of this

Macho Man Randy Savage Promo #7: The Cream of the Crop

►

Almo

1:32 PM

"randy" in UK parlance means "horny"

Jon

pretty sure that was the intended meaning

user92578

1:53 PM

user92578

Got it!

user92578

Cleanup time

Jon

youtube.com/channel/UC3KEoMzNz8eYnwBC34RaKCQ?nohtml5=False

this chick is nuts

user92578

How are we supposed to handle cross posted questions?

user92578

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Q: error: ‘struct RakNet::SocketDescriptor’ has no member named ‘socketFamily’|

when i run my client code i get this error i using code::blocks and im linux system in the tutorial that i follow the code working without any errors my includes files in the project #include "MessageIdentifiers.h" #include "RakPeerInterface.h" #include "RakNetStatistics.h" #include "RakNetType...

user92578

2:00 PM

0

Q: error: ‘struct RakNet::SocketDescriptor’ has no member named ‘socketFamily’|

when i run my client code i get this error i using code::blocks and im linux system in the tutorial that i follow the code working without any errors my includes files in the project #include "MessageIdentifiers.h" #include "RakPeerInterface.h" #include "RakNetStatistics.h" #include "RakNetType...

c++ c++11 struct irrlicht raknet

Jon

just wait it out

Almo

I comment on one saying don't cross post

this does not look like a gdse question

so it's off topic here

Jon

raknet is game related.

Almo

But game developers are not uniquely suited to answer this

Jon

only game developers would use raknet

point is, app developers would never know how to fix this

Almo

2:03 PM

I don't think it's a raknet error

user92578

it's just a code dump tbh

Almo

this is a coding error

Jon

i didn't read through it

Almo

lol

Jon

socketDescriptor.socketFamily = AF_INET;

here is the problem.

Almo

2:04 PM

i voted to close the SO one for "minimal verifiable example"

poeple not reading the damned error message as usual

Jon

I put a dick message

cuz it is what I do best

know wuh i'm sayin

Almo

you're right though

netowkring is hard

reading error messages is not as hard (unless it's fucking templates)

Jon

truth hurts

i'm sure i'm not going to gain popularity saying it

but he might have to hear it

user4704

2:42 PM

@Tyyppi_77 Flag the one here; I will close the cross-post here and leave a message asking them to delete on the other site if they want it here (assuming it's on-topic here; this one specifically isn't)

user92578

Now on to the horrible Release-only memory deletion crash

user92578

@JoshPetrie Flag with..? Needs moderator attention?

user4704

@Tyyppi_77 yeah

user92578

Aight, will do in future

user92578

Yeah man these delete pointer; crashes are annoying

user92578

2:58 PM

Oh

user92578

OH

user92578

really? I think I'm modifying a vector while iterating over it

user92578

actually... no I'm not

user92578

Aight, so it's an ownership issue

user92578

So, my missile launcher creates an indicator bubble for itself and adds it to the level

user92578

3:01 PM

When the missile launcher is destroyed, it deletes the bubble from the level

user92578

However, it might happen that when reseting the level, the bubble is deleted before the launcher

Jon

idiot.

user92578

yeah...

user92578

classic tyyppi

Jon

your gonna need a notification system

best to use microsoft foundation framework

user92578

3:03 PM

yup

user92578

probably best to adopt as many microsoft technologies as possible tbh

Jon

Then channel the notifications through the event manager and funnel the output through a darknet webservice then back to your game

Its the only way

user92578

Aight, I'll get started on a custom HTTP client using assembly immediately

Jon

jg consultation services

user92578

thinking about doing the server backend in pure PHP

Jon

3:05 PM

no no no... you need to work on the documentation detailing to yourself what it is you are gonig to do

user92578

probably putting the event types in a local database

Jon

client side servers are the way to go

user92578

querying trough a custom python database parser

user92578

oh and building the server maintenance html sites with regexp

Jon

better yet, create your own html parser

and put all the data in html format

user92578

3:07 PM

send the html over the network?

user92578

parse that as the event data

Jon

nooooo, local servers

user92578

what if the servers get attacked though? I will need a way to use a backup satellite somewhere far

Jon

outsource the backup satellites to china

trust me

user92578

ookay

user92578

3:09 PM

user92578

Awesome

Jon

get back to work, you got a lot of shit to do

user92578

lol true

user92578

more seriously though, would sending a "Bubble Removed" event be a totally horrible idea?

user92578

I could then check in the missile launcher if it's bubble was deleted

user92578

3:10 PM

and then it won't do it again

Almo

hahaha

Jon

loosely couple the bubbles with the object

user92578

So turns out younger Tyyppi had a system in-place for this

user92578

The bubble owners don't delete bubbles in the death callback

user92578

Instead they check if their health is below zero, and kindly ask the bubble to delete itself in Update()

Jon

3:14 PM

i had an issue with my blocks being removed, but their faces staying on screen

it looked kinda like those old cartoons

user92578

that must have looked freaky

Jon

yeah, it was weird.

Thing is, the faces are not actually linked to the box body

if they were, they would rotate along with them

who's playing gorb?

precious data is coming in

user92578

what's the difference between pre-beta and alpha???

user92578

what is wrong with you?

Jon

pre-beta is just slang for.. yo it isn't finish, back off

alpha is like.. a stupid term for unfinished game

beta is for like.. a finished but unpolished game

user92578

3:17 PM

lol

Jon

i need to write a SQL query that will pull the lowest numbers from all numbers

I haven't written SQL in over 5 years

And I really don't want to write this simple thing.. can someone just write this for me?

user92578

I have never written SQL

Jon

I ususally have a DB guy that does this shitty stuff for me.

Almo

I could tonight if you can weight

Jon

i barely can, haven't been lifting in a whiel now

Almo

3:20 PM

hehe

Jon

if you click next too fast, the data doesn't get sent properly, lol

ffs, UNITEEEE

which is strange...

it shouldn't be doing anything if the data request fails

user92578

This is pretty darn cool: gamedev.net/blog/33/…

Jon

If you want a normal map generator, I have code for it.

but yeah that is cool

difference between working with an artist that knows his shit -- vs

user92578

lol :D

Jon

I was actually looking for these sprites some guy sent me

user92578

3:28 PM

all games look horrible at first

Jon

I must have deleted them.

He wanted me to make a game with him -- it was a very simple concept so I figured why not

user92578

I'm so embarassed about the GunHero prototype graphics

Jon

Then he sent me sprites ... and I literally shit you not.. looked something like this

I replied.. (you know me) -- "holy fuck that is bad"

user92578

lol

Jon

Worse thing is, he tried hard

And i hurt his feelings

user92578

3:29 PM

:(

Jon

Well what would you have said "GREAT WORK MATE!"

it was literally shit

user92578

yeah it's tricky man

user92578

social skills

user92578

not my thing definitely

user92578

i.imgur.com/yonhZeR.gifv

Jon

3:32 PM

hahaha

picross touch was actually pretty good looking when I first started it

but yeah.. Gorb looked like puke

user92578

y u no inline

Jon

wut?

user92578

the gif is not inlining for me

Jon

gifv

it has to be a gif

user92578

oh

user92578

3:33 PM

stupid imgur

user92578

god

Jon

lol, that is ugly

AND ANNOYING

Here, wait 4 full seconds for no reason

user92578

yes

Jon

while we count it down

hahaha

my 2004 skills lol

user92578

3:35 PM

omg

user92578

:D

Jon

this was not the actual logo i used

user92578

I mean most of the heads aren't even close

Jon

this is what the main menu looked like

user92578

tbh that looks pretty damn cool

user92578

3:36 PM

The Main Menu title is really insightful

Jon

lighting and shadows are all over the place though

mainly the buttons

and you can tell that the queen lighting was just flipped

I love the GizmoChess part though

user92578

awesome gameplay

Jon

love to see old stuff like that :D

user92578

you can see how crappy the physics feel

user92578

3:39 PM

I'm pretty sure jumping was done with (ifNotAtJumpHeight) yPos++; or something

Jon

here check this out

pre-alpha

Infinidrill Demo Video (pre-alpha)

►

that turned into something insane

user92578

that's really awesome

user92578

you have music and all

Jon

yeah, the engine turned into something that was just a really huge learning experience

everything was done in XNA there, so collision detection/response, everything really

aside from the drawing code really

user92578

Kinda like GunHero for me

Jon

3:43 PM

well that game

user92578

surely that's a lot more impressive

Jon

could be fun.. the guy can jump out of that drill

user92578

ooh

user92578

awesome

user92578

those graphics

user92578

3:44 PM

man

Jon

if anyone wants to help, i already ported the engine to unity mostly

I don't think there is much of a market for it

a* built into it too, forgot about that

user92578

Is that AI?

user92578

Or just you jumping around along the path?

Jon

no, the AI that i put in is very primitive

me jumping

it was supposed to be a super simple game

wadry

so many places you can go with that game :)

did you blog about you created the dude and his drill in your game?

Jon

3:55 PM

no

user92578

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Q: Pong-like game in C++ and Allegro5

I've been working on this pong game for the last 10 days, and I'd like to know of your opinions about it, what could I change to make my code better? #include <stdio.h> #include <allegro5/allegro.h> #include "allegro5/allegro.h" #include "allegro5/allegro_image.h" #include <allegro5/allegro_nat...

c++ game

Jon

somethign wrong with gorb

crashes after level 14

user92578

Remember the guy having tons of issues with his pong

user92578

asking easy questions here?

user92578

apparently he is now in need of a code review :D

NaCl

3:56 PM

gg

user92578

well, nicely taking advantage of the whole SE network :)

user92578

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Q: libGDX text doesn't appear in TextField

A game I'm working on has libgdx's TextField. They work fine in every instance I've used them, however on a play tester's phone he says no typed text appears in the box until enter or space is pressed. His specs: Phone: S7 Edge Root: No Keyboard: Fleksy Android version: 6.0.1 The keyboard wa...

java android libgdx

user92578

Check out the source code he nicely provided :)

Jon

did anyone here play gorb and it crashed on them?

NaCl

I did

user92578

4:07 PM

might have been also me

Jon

why would you not tell me

user92578

that was mainly firefox

NaCl

around lv 15 as soon as I've solved it

Jon

yeah, there was a line of code i forgot to remove

NaCl

I guessed it had to do with your network-stuff

idk sry

pleasedonthateme

Jon

4:08 PM

friggen salt

iquilezles.org/www/index.htm

Level 38

how many?

Ali.S

5:18 PM

@Jon it seems there is something wrong with levels

I mean the order they who up

Jon

yep i'm reordering them

Ali.S

ok then... I'll play later :D

PearsonArtPhoto

5:46 PM

I figure I'll make my graphics purposely bad at first to give me a scape goat anytime someone asks for a feature I don't want to work on yet...

Almo

hahahah

Jon

rachelbythebay.com/w/2013/06/05/duck

5

Have you ever noticed how some people want to "touch" everything which is being done on a project, even if it has nothing to do with them? It need not be huge, but it seems like they want to have just a small deviation applied to all potential changes. It's almost like they want to be able to point at any given part and say "I'm the reason that happened".

Almo

very

DH.

In the last company I worked, the least your name were on things the better, so it wouldn't be your fault

Jon

Yeah, when things go great, CEO come out and are like "Look at what I did, I'm the reason we are awesome"

But when things are bad, they point at the developers "Look at those shitheads, fire some will ya"

The reality of things.

DH.

6:03 PM

> It's like they keep something in reserve so they can keep marking as they go.

lol so true