Game Development

Well, it makes the whole game shitty by ruining the first thing the user sees

So no, fuck that, I'm going to do this right.

man... your standards, very good. That's the spirit :)

12:40 AM

I don't have very high standards. I just want it to look presentable.

I don't mind if people think 'Oh, some teenager made this in his spare time when he was bored' but I don't want them thinking that I didn't work hard.

Lasse

High standards? It's a flappy bird clone.

^++;

lol

@Lasse Correction: It's a flappy bird clone that took way too long to finish :P

brb

Evan

12:58 AM

Don't use hardware breakpoints often, but they sure are life savers when you need them

1:08 AM

Fuuckk

So I got my bank account all set up today, money deposited, etc

But I don't get my debit card for a couple of weeks

Meaning that I can't make purchases

1:26 AM

Finally downloading Monstercat 016

lol, it's so late

it's awesome bwoi

Did you check out Tristam - Till it's over?

Also Rezonate - Canvas

And Varien - The Scarlet Dawn

all ones I bought previously

@hasherr Oh, oh, did you listen to Vexare?

Reonate Canvase is one of the best songs on the album imo

@hasherr That whole EP is good.

@hasherr music.monstercat.com/album/prelude-ep

Monstercat should really sign Vexare

1:45 AM

God damn that Nitro Fun song is so good.

@hasherr soundcloud.com/ultrnx/ira-atari-dont-wanna-miss-you

I wish Ephixa would come back :(

That has got to be one of my favourite dance tracks

I WANT EPHIXA BACK :(

Why exactly did he leave? I know he was a founder and all.

I don't know exactly.

Had a falling out with monstercat

1:53 AM

I miss him.

@hasherr clubmarco.com/ephixa-leads-the-way-to-controversy-news

You know who's awesome?

FijiWiji.

Ye.

Fij ^

New music coming in March

Tweeted by TutTutChild on February 26, 2014 at 10:21 PM

O_O

@hasherr WUT WUT CHILD

1:56 AM

:D

<3

Dude...

Do you think it's an EP?

Here's hoping.

Tut Tut Child is one of those artists that never ever puts out anything bad.

So excite.

Although most monstercat artists are...

1:57 AM

MC signs a lot of people like that

I think the unique thing about Tut is that he works so well with other artists

Humming Bird

^

Humming Bird is awesome.

I hadn't heard it until I listened to his yearmix for 2013

@hasherr you should keep an eye on groupees, by the way

They ran this a while ago: groupees.com/bass2

oh and by the way

Minnesota has released his entire discography free

Minnesota?

@hasherr He's good. Let me get you a good track by him.

Dude

Do you know who that is?

@hasherr Nope.

2:01 AM

That's Laura Brehm.

Holy damn.

Oh, nice.

minnesota is good

check that track

Muzzy's single is good, but it'd be better with all the weird alien voice shit at the beginning.

Checkin' it

@hasherr It grows on you.

@hasherr also from him:

Good stuff.

2:03 AM

A good EDM song is like a hit of someting. It gives you so much energy and gets you pumped up, it's awesome.

Yeah man

speaking of getting pumped up

Track is fucking hard

If you want to get pumped up, take this

repost

:P

Ma bad

glitch mab

<3

Will listen after Fonik

Or I'll try anyway

2:04 AM

The second half of that song... Oh my GAWD

oh my godzzz that stardust dubstep remix is awesomezzzzz.

my internet is REALLY slow right now

@hasherr seriously though mad.ly/f12984?pact=20723549863&fe=1

@BlueBug Which one? Stardust or Stardust Redux

@hasherr I know a song that makes me say the exact same thing

this one you posted. And #'s this is awesome as well. Her voice is heaven.

@BlueBug This song makes me say that too: soundcloud.com/labrat/ca-h-out-cashin-out-jamburglar

LISTEN TO IT WITH ME

i am listening to it but r u saying i can listen to the same time line with u?

2:07 AM

@BlueBug Yes. Start it over.

now

oh ok

i guess we r... listening together..

Second half of the song is amazing.

first half is decent

CASHIN OUT

Me walk around with no chick on me? Psh, yeah I doubt it

not my taste(I can't understand what he says, too fast), this song, but not bad, cool beat. lol

@BlueBug Yeah I have no idea what he says either.

First part after the drop is really hard

then it gets amazing

Dat bass

HERE WE GO

this part is so amazing

;_;

I love it

aaaaaaaaaa

i am at 2:30 I had stop and rewind it back a bit xD oh yeah Now just the second that *high. yeah this is some good shit.

2:11 AM

@BlueBug Yeah man. It just keeps getting better towards the end

This one is heavy

@hasherr @BlueBug Do you guys know Klaypex?

nope

what

are you joking

okay

@hasherr @BlueBug you need to listen to this

They were, at one point, giving that entire album away for free

best free album ever

oh yeah... I know them. I recognize the logo.

@BlueBug Good.

Listen to it anyway

6:46 AM

THE LAST MESSAGE WAS POSTED 5 HOURS AGO

Lasse

and you just had to break the silence

user92578

7:59 AM

Morning

8:10 AM

~~THE LAST MESSAGE BEFORE YOU WAS POSTED 1 HOUR AGO~~ morning :D

9:42 AM

hello there. Is anyone here experienced with unity and procedural terrain generation?

I can't help you cuz I have little experience with your unity and even lesser with terrain generation, BUT you r handsome and your kid is cute!

?

ahah

I actually look like a badass

Leathe

10:21 AM

a ginger Thor

12:15 PM

alright who's here?

I'm mentally checked out but I have some sort of presence here I suppose

YOu can check out, but you can never leeeeeeave

Kevin van der Velden

Noone is, this is all in your mind

Aslso, interesting talk about Utillity based AI, that I may or may not be posting here mostly so I can find it again tonight

1:14 PM

need some unity camera help

Kevin van der Velden

@Jon panic and run around in circles

Also maybe I can help with my generic 3D camera knowledge

i'm trying to figure out how to set the orthographic zoom size to fit as much content as possible in a viewport

So essentially... Let's say I have a 450x450px block I want to fit as large as possible in any given viewport size.

Orthographic size is defined as:

Half the vertical size of the viewing volume.

I seem to have solved it for the vertical portion... but the horizontal aspect doesn't seem to be working for me

What do you mean?

Are you seeing gaps between sprites? @Jon

no

i'm trying to calculate the zoom value I need

I think I included the "zoom" in my size

size = screen height / 2 * zoom

1:24 PM

zoom = size * 2 / height

err

Basically I want a camera to zoom in on a specific object

And get it to cover the screen area

Gotcha. Yeah I don't know how to calculate that off hand

I'm not experienced but this sounds like you have to evaluate camera distance to the object and find the angle needed to have a screen height = object.height

1:39 PM

Yeah, typically this would be simple

But the Unity Camera is kinda weird.

The width is based on the aspect ratio and the height

so the orthographic size ends up being your zoom -- which is half the height of the viewport or something

hmmm sorry I never dealt this way with camera

but taking a rapid search

maybe this can fit your case:

answers.unity3d.com/questions/521410/…

another thing I don't get

I have a resolution set to whatever... lets day 800x600 -- but when I run the game, Screen.width is 444

running the game in the editor? or running a build?

editor

yeah I figured that one I guess it scales

Yeah I don't think editor believes in following the rules

1:51 PM

Man this is getting really ridiculous

I wish I understood the ortho size.

calculate the ortho size in a script for your camera on start

lol, that is what I'm tryin gto do

I figured out how to do the vertical

But horizontal is not working.

There isn't a horizontal

well, the width is not fitting then.

You would need a different aspect ratio wouldn't you?

1:53 PM

naw

i'm just talking about zooming .. thats it

Trying to determine the zoom level :)

I have screen.width -- object width -- screen height -- object height

Just don't know how the ortho size ties into it

but it fits vertically right? If you zoom farther in to fit the width you'll lose visibility vertically.... unless you are specifically talking about a scenario where object is wider than tall

have you tried what that guy's suggesting?

currentCamera.orthographicSize = rendererBounds.extents.y + margin;

yeah...

any response from unity?

It scales the vertical properly

if it is wider than tall, the horizontal portion gets cut

1:59 PM

can't u get the max (height, width) and resize on result?

How to resize?

Use the aspect ratio

I assume for the vertical option you are doing something with height correct?

So instead of using the sprite height when width is higher, use a calculated height based on aspect ratio and sprite width

hmmm

according to what is said here
https://docs.unity3d.com/Documentation/ScriptReference/Camera-orthographicSize.html
@toddersLegrande is right: you have to work with aspect ratio

Yeah... for vertical sizing it is like this:

size = (height / 2) / 100f;

its just the way the orthosize works.

So... for horizontal size -- i'd have to multiply by the ratio

ahh.. seems to work

float ratio = Screen.width / (float)Screen.height;

float height = (Grid.GetComponent<Grid>().Height + Grid.GetComponent<Grid>().TallestMeta) * 32;
float width = (Grid.GetComponent<Grid>().Width + Grid.GetComponent<Grid>().WidestMeta) * 32;

float w = Screen.width / width;
float h = Screen.height / height;

float size = (height / 2) / 100f;
if (w < h)
   size /= ratio;

Camera.main.orthographicSize = size;

there it is

if anyone wants it -- width / height are the size of the object you are scaling at

next up... orientation

hmmmm... weird

it scales perfect on PC -- but when I push to android it cuts off on the sides.

2:21 PM

fine!

well at least it's working on pc

:)

I'll keep the good code, thanks!

it actually works.. i just didn't recompile before sending to device, lol

ahah

good

Yeah, works beautifully

should resize on every single device now

like magic.

unity is actually magic

maybe you ever worked with procedural terrain?

a lot

2:24 PM

in unity?

no.. xna/monogame

hmmm

I actually have troubles in unity trying to blend different materials

ah

in 3d?

yes

Yeah, my experience is with noise generation in infinite terrain in 2d

not blending materials ;)

2:28 PM

han! okay

gah.. still not working perfect.

what's the problem?

some sizes don't fit properly

i made it wider

and it cuts off again

u made wider, what?

so many pronouns

2:36 PM

the objects

so close...

like if the object is too big it gets cut anyways?

does this line produce a number in pixels?
float height = (Grid.GetComponent<Grid>().Height + Grid.GetComponent<Grid>().TallestMeta) * 32;

(same with width)

yeah

size = (height / 2) / 100f; //what is the dividing by 100 for?

100 is the default ratio or something

i'm not even sure

2:38 PM

ok

that might be the culprit

everything is divided by 100

so the c# compiler is bugging me about an unused member in a class, but it's referred to by something in the editor

Whats your pixel to unit ratio?

how do I turn off that warning?

its 100

@Almo you can turn warnings off

what is the error exactly?

2:40 PM

we keep our project clean of warnings

Assets/_Sources/GameFlow/SceneLoaderConfig.cs(33,26): warning CS0414: The private field `SceneLoaderConfig._splashScreenInfo' is assigned but its value is never used

but there's a script that populates SplashScreenNames from the data the editor puts into _splashScreenInfo.

so it IS used, the compiler just can't see it.

@Jon so 100 pixels is 1 unit?

I think you can go and supress the specific warning you know are ok

in visual studio..

#pragma warning disable 414

it's being compiled by unity

100 pixels = 1 unit

2:42 PM

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/441722ys.aspx

hmm

hmmm

    private const string _kSplashScreenInfo = "_splashScreenInfo";

    public override void OnInspectorGUI()
    {
        _sceneLoaderConfig = target as SceneLoaderConfig;

        UpdateList(_kSplashScreenInfo, _sceneLoaderConfig.SplashScreenNames);

so the object gets referred to by a string, so it can't tell it's being used.

ok

it was the ratio i was using that was wrong

apparently I need to use the object's width ratio. and not the screen

@Almo, you could try what I suggested

2:44 PM

That doesn't sound right but I'll run with it

could, but the disables it for the whole file

I want the warnings, but not for that particular variable

disable then restore?

though, i'm not entirely sure where you would put that

sounds legit :)

:)

.. in your case

2:48 PM

Hello is there any moderator available for a quick question?

try us

many of us non-mods know the rules too

@Almo I must not be understanding your scenario correctly because your warning does concern me

I have a variable that gets assigned by user input in the editor when it's running

there's a function that takes the name of an item in the editor, and populates another array with some of its values

Right

that variable does not appear to be used as far as the compiler is concerned

2:50 PM

I think you might be confusing terminology

since it is referred to by name, and values given by the editor at runtime

probably I'm not a c# guy

meeting

back in a couple minutes

ssets/_Sources/GameFlow/SceneLoaderConfig.cs(33,26): warning CS0414: The private field `SceneLoaderConfig._splashScreenInfo' is assigned but its value is never used

I think your warning implies that you never do anything with the value that your script / function is assigning to it?

As in you have an extra field that serves no purpose

Bisder

sure!
i have a question in stack overflow and it's sort of gdev related, wonder if it's valid to cross post here too for bigger audience
this is the question:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22069454/need-suggestion-on-sharing-constant-values-throughout-my-project/22070495?noredirect=1#22070495

Without reading it, cross posting is bad. It either goes on one or the other. That being said if its decided that its a better fit, it can be flagged for migration over here :)

Kevin van der Velden

@ToddersLegrande pretty much, it's the basic "You never read this private variable that no one else can access, why do you have this you bug dummie?" combined with "You set this value but you never use it, why are you calculating this you big dummie?"

2:54 PM

Exactly

And if he has more script magic that actually does read the value back out or something... it should probably be a public property

@Bisder I would say that StackOverflow is a fine place for your question. It seems more general C++ than a specific game dev problem to me.

Bisder

well one guy answered with an interesting answer which is a nice approach to game development. something like have a config file and load attributes from there i would like to hear more like that

Sounds like a new question then not the same question perhaps?

What would you like to hear?

Oh wait I misread

But that approach isn't game dev specific either

@ToddersLegrande But it is used. The editor puts objects in it. Then an update function in the UI takes a string that is the name of the "unused" variable, loops through the objects in the "unused variable" and puts strings from those objects into a list that IS used.

the problem is that the "unused variable" is grabbed by name through the engine, so the compiler can't see it.

So... why is it private?

This seems fishy

so code doesn't reference the list directly from the outside

only the names of the objects need to be referenced from the outside

3:03 PM

@Almo, oh, i thought you have a (external) script generating code which has that variable! You could disable warning before the field decl, and restore it right after

ok

turns out the guy who wrote that part did the pragma disable warning for the file in question, just had not checked that part in yet. so you was right radical :)

thanks for taking a look at the problem.

ah, np!

@Almo I'm concerned that something from the outside references it at all (since its private) and that nothing on the inside does... but my understanding of the implementation isn't completely clear so I guess that's ok.

Even if the outside just references the name, what actually uses the value?

You don't really need to get into it, but that's where my confusion is anyway

the editor has access to the list because it is [serializable]

so some code finds the property through the editor interface

then loops through and assigns the names to the public list

so it is private as far as code is concerned

but the editor has access

Bisder

its ok i understand thanks :)

3:15 PM

so when running the editor, the user can put objects into the private list, and code can access the private list by cheating and going through the editor.

since I'm not the one who wrote this, and I don't know the system very well yet, I'm not really into questioning-how-it's-built mode yet. :)

Question all the things :P

ok maybe not yet..

but you are right about being concerned with accessing a private thing in such a way :)

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

any experienced dude with procedural terrain in unity3d?

Don't ask to ask :P

@Leggy7 what's the question / problem?

3:26 PM

well, I've got a procedurally generated terrain structured in chunks. meshes are created inside the chunks considering surface voxels contained in each chunk

so, I have 1 mesh per chunk with 1 material each

I can't achieve to blend textures from 1 mesh to another

I mean the shaders are local to every material so I cannot achive to blend vertices which are next to others with different material

don't know if I made myself clear enought...

I don't do much / any 3D so I'm no help but I at least got you to ask the question. If someone does have the knowledge they now at least have an idea of your problem and will probably chime in if they can help.