hmm

you looking for super clean, or data-driven approach? or just quick n dirty way to do it

The fastest way to do it, as it will be alot of data that I have to access alot.

Basically it's the same data for all the block types

you mean the fastest way to code it, or the fastest way to access the data?

@Jimmy i dont know what "classic" means, but how woud you do that? with tilemaprenderer and tilemapcollider passing them same data?

Been back only a day and I already have three starred messages. :P

Hi fellow devs

Morning

morning

hi folks

wow is Heroes of Newerth bad.

played a second game... bleah

just can't make any sense of the shop

you would think by now that they would have copied LoL's shop. Whether you like LoL's changes to the game or not, you have to admit their shop interface is awesome.

Well, I suppose you don't have to admit it, but then you'd just be wrong. :P

As a seasoned Moba player I like them for their quirks.

LoL's shop is easier.

I tend to think a lot less about the items I buy in HoN or DotA

Is it morning for you guys? It's 15:20 here

@Blue another dota player here! didn't know you had such high quality taste :D

@Blue it's morning whenever someone logs into chat

it's 18:49 here

but I must agree, LoL has a much better shop.

Not just a better shop - they have the budget to keep regular updates and content on the go. The community feels more involved and particularly less niche that DotA.

It actually makes it easier to adapt and play.

I love the RTS based control of DotA like it was in the old days. Especially with heroes like Broodmother (Love that gal)

@Chunk-e-Yamani And of course I have taste! ;) Have you seen my hat?!

IMO DotA is much more about strategy compared to other games in that genre.

LoL specially is more about action,

you don't need to think about what you are going to do, you just do as much as you can as fast as you can. but in dota you need to think about your every single step to win high rated games.

I don't think lol is quite - do as much as you can as fast as you can. In lower levels that is definately a better comparison when you put it next to DotA. LoL is more about muscle memory combined with an adaptive build each game.

You find yourself making items to counter the opposition (LoL) rather than just to make your character better whilst staying alive (DotA)

However in the high rated games in LoL

in high rated dota games you also have to choose items wisely

But to say that that isn't the same for LoL is globalisation ;)

In lower leagues in DotA you can argue it is "Do as much as you can as fast as you can"

it's true that each hero has a predefined set of items, but in which order you buy them and in some cases unusual items can make a huge difference

Still surmounts to the same thing in the end. I tend to prefer playing DotA with my old circle of friends and LoL when I want to feel like my physical reactions are up to par.

Rather than "OMGMASHALLTHEBUTTONSARAHGHG"

:P

Anyhow, for now - food calls my name.

For me, the main difference is that DotA rewards individual accomplishment more and LoL rewards teamwork more.

Coming from a HoN and Dota background, I didn't like the items in LoL - its like you had way too many items that all seemed to do the same thing. =/

Sure it is easy to get around

And pretty easy to figure out what to buy

but I thought the items themselves were lacking

And it could be just because there are so many items... I didn't find the cool ones :P

@ToddersLegrande I can get that. @ToddersLegrande, and I think that's a good difference to point out @Almo. Team work is such a vital thing in LoL that coordination in higher ranks is seriously difficult to execute but so rewarding. The same goes for individual coordination in HoN/DotA where individual efforts can outshine an entire team (roll on the Broodmother spider army!)

when saying this I always think of De Niro saying "Part of a team!" and what he does immediately afterward.

I don't get the reference, Enlighten me...

@Almo ... o.o

Untouchables.

What does he do immediately afterward...

THE SUSPENSE!!...

hang on

he starts by saying "what do we appreciate in life" or something, what are our enthusiasms.

then you get this scene youtube.com/watch?v=QHH9EYZHoVU

it's short

really famous scene though

I need to watch that...

good movie, a little bit on the cornball side at times, but still good. :)

also has a re-do of a scene from Battleship Potemkin in it.

De Palma's a realy film history geek I guess

one of his films is a redo of two hitchcock films at the same time

For me it reminded me of the scene in 300 when Leonidos does his "Give them nothing - and take from them - EVERYTHING!" right after he tells his men to hold a solid line. Ends up running up front of everyone being a total badass leaving the other 299 behind.

heh

Reminds me of every wannabe pro in Dota: Rush Forward; Die; WHERE WERE YOU GUYS

It's always the rest of the team's fault :)

Right. I'm off home now, finishing work after waiting for a database to compress took a little longer than usual.

It is always the junglers fault in LoL

:P

Hey guys

guess what, after all this time I am finally working on my game again xD

but I got a few things I wanted to know your oppinion on

so, the menu now will be something like this

on the left side a few buttons

a line dividing them

and a big blank space on the right (so far)

I was thinking of putting like information appear as well as an image maybe

now, if it is only text, I can just change the contents of the text box depending on where my mouse is

but if I wanted images to appear or something, should I create an object WITH a textbox and a placeholder and change both like that?

also, if I do put in images, which format should they be in? Because once I put an image but it made the file 3MB, after I removed it it is only 560KB now

So if anyone wants to see why I was in here asking UE questions, here's the first promo vid: youtube.com/watch?v=b05EI7wkiCU

Shame I can't still work on it. :(

@Almo dayum did you do that?!

I love the accent xD

and the game looks awesome actually

I worked on the physics and gameplay code.

The company is very small, and short funding so they laid me off.

The gameplay clips don't lie, either. It's really how the game is played. :)

@Almo yea I noticed it, seems cool though :)

:D

gotta get some luntch

hey, do you have anything to say about what I asked above btw?

I'm trying to make it decent finally

@Almo bon apetit

I recommend jpg for images, with a suitable amount of compression. By "suitable" I mean high enough for small files, but low enough for the images to look good.

about how to structure it, I'm not an expert on creating interfaces in HTML. :)

@Almo eheh its not HTML but thanks :P

oh looked like one

meh gonna work on it thursday... not really in the mood for anything now :/

so what are you working in

i know i have touched this one many times, but what do i have to do to get a job as a programmer in europe, so i could atleast pay taxes and buy food?

i have 0 finished projects

A degree and an open junior level position to apply for

my parents will kick me out of home in a few months

if you can prove to certain employers that you can program, a degree might not be necessary.

I know a bricklayer who got hired by showing his partial RTS on an illegal N64 devkit.

it showed he could program, and the kits were too expensive to ordinary people to get

but Todders has a good suggestion as well

That requires a finished product ;)

or at least

something finished enough to be able to show someone

right :)

that was how I got in; showing completed shareware games I had written

what would be the shortest path, to prepare myself in say 3 months

?

write a complete (but simple) game in a freely available language/library

okay

write clean code so you can show that you won't destroy their codebase.

that's my recommendation anyway

can you give me an idea?

i'm totally wasted at the moment

well, wait until you are not wasted then think about it

these discusions with my parents...

they're killing me

off for some LoL. close to qualifying for ranked play.

@Almo it's my game, trying to make it decent

I mean, what language and library are you using

like if you're using Winforms that will make the answer different that if it were HTML or something

@Almo i think he uses actionscript

Yea it's actionscript 3.0, flash CS6

sorry for the delay answering though

@Madcowe I think creating an object containing a textbox and image makes sense in that environment. Maybe someone with more expertise could correct me if I'm wrong.

@ToddersLegrande, So I bought SimCity...

I guess we'll see how I like it. :P

Haha. Nice

Hopefully I didn't oversell it

I'm having fun though

:D @William'MindWorX'Mariager !

The gang is all here! :P

:) yup. So... I hear you picked up Pandemic

he did

smart move :)

Yes. Have yet to play it with a group but I enjoyed it with the wife

I wonder if he has the "Do you have what it takes to save humanityP" version

@ToddersLegrande Cool. You play on "Novice"?

I've never played novice, even first time. :)

but we're hardcore :)

Whatever the lowest level is. Lost every (2) time

Daamn

We were a little used to Forbidden Island where the strategy is SAVE ALL THE THINGS

in my opinion, your best bet to enjoy pandemic is not to read anything about how to play it from other people

Yeah, Novice mode is where you play with an open hand, and have 4 Epidemics

just explore it

we play Normal, but with open hand.

Yeah, agreed

Half way through the second game I'm like... maybe its not necessary to get rid of every disease on every city ASAP

we still lose.

a lot

Heh, I force closed hands, and we play Normal, but most recently with Virulent Strain and Mutations from the expansion

we have the expansion, but haven't used anything but the new Role cards yet

I really want to tryu the bioterrorist option

We've played with Bio-terrorist once, and like the rulebook says: play with 3-4 players if you're playing with the bio-terrorist

Don't push it to 5

Yeah... so I recently bought Android:Netrunner, a 2-player asymmetrical card game, kinda like Magic, but everything comes in the box

Pretty interesting so far

Sweet. If it's anything like dominion, the wife won't like it though. :(

I have a complete set of Netrunner from back in the days. It's a great game

my wife was a power runner, so my corp strategy developed around that.

Interesting

@JohnMcDonald!

@William'MindWorX'Mariager!

Got a question!

Where topcorners[4] = the center of my face

And for some reason if the x or y is the same, it gets a distance of 0

nvm got it

@William'MindWorX'Mariager @JohnMcDonald both of you!

thanks though @Almo :3

@ToddersLegrande, I spent a fortune on an oil rig. And without producing any oil I'm now depleted. Got any clue what I'm doing wrong?

The spot I selected had max oil.

sounds like you got unlucky to me

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Six legal mistakes app developers make - part 1

Could be useful for answering all those silly legal questions people ask around here.