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1:15 AM
And wall of the day award goes to
Well whatever app is expecting to use these tables is not going to be easy to switch - I honestly have no idea how you're going to store varray data or how the app or its interfaces will have to change to deal with it... — Aaron Bertrand 1 min ago
 
1:53 AM
ugh
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Q: Protect my SQL server database

alexI have created an application that use a sql server database. But the problem is that a user can open sql server management studio and can do anything that I don't like , for example : 1) Can modify values inside tables. 2) can delete records 3) Can see and can get my database structure..... ...

 
 
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3:18 AM
hi
anyone online ?
 
 
3 hours later…
6:20 AM
Ouch.
my question was a problem with a query for TWO different servers MSSQL 2000 and H2. I did not find a bug because its already known! i did never say that my question is SQL standard nor that it is perfect. it was the query that was used on mssql2000. i removed the last query as you requested MY ANSWER/ Solution, which is finally different to what i wrote before. i do not know what you mean by 'flaws' in my question. but actually i do not longer want to know it as you seem to search for someone to flame. so leave it that way. — lumo 49 mins ago
 
 
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7:23 AM
@ypercube It says here H2 did have issues with outer joins, only it was with right outer joins, not left, and it was prior to version 1.3.
I wonder, maybe the OP had heard something ("H2 has issues with outer joins") and misapplied that to their case when they failed to reconcile the SQL Server syntax with H2.
 
8:05 AM
@AndriyM I think that's most probable, yes.
 
 
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10:27 AM
I'm ambivalent in some questions, like this one: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/77455/…
Should I vote to close as "too broad" or "too localized"?
 
Morning all
@ypercube Is there an option for 'wants us to do his job for him'?. Maybe the reason should be 'Closed - Aptem'.
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Haha, yeah. We haven't seen that guy for a long time.
 
@ypercube I thought I saw him mentioned just a few days ago.
 
11:01 AM
Yes, seeing his latest so question. He frustrated Aaron.
Oh my gosh, then do it with two operations. What is this question really about? Bypassing permissions? What does "only allowed" mean? Is mommy validating your queries? — Aaron Bertrand yesterday
 
should I be flattered that they used almost my identical code? stackoverflow.com/a/26009216/426671 :)
 
Yes :)
 
12:04 PM
How very appropriate! Not only the question turned out to be a duplicate of the linked one, but also your answer looks almost like an exact copy of the accepted answer to the linked question. You even used same variable names and formatting, just amazing! — Andriy M 11 secs ago
 
vtc as off-topic plz
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Q: Key-Value Store that is tolerant of writes and deletes

Chris DutrowProblem Having trouble finding a Key-Value store that is tolerant of writes and deletes. Details Need a good key-value store to use for storing very large hash tables. These hash tables are used as indexes and are very "active". Very many deletes and writes are executed against them. Currentl...

@AndriyM slick
 
JNK
12:18 PM
morning all
 
@JNK morning yo
 
1:06 PM
morning
 
@marian thanks again for confirming my thoughts on replication. Used here:
^^^^ finally blogged about NOLOCK
 
@AaronBertrand can't up vote
 
1:54 PM
i'm so helpful
I think you've been a user long enough to recognize that you should make an effort first before asking for help. Please update your question with what you've tried. It would also be helpful if you provided an example of the desired result. — Kermit 1 min ago
i'm also so mean
You need to normalize the table. Whoever designed this is a moron. — Kermit 1 min ago
 
+1 for not wanting to use distinct -1 for not giving enough details yet
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Q: I want to avoid using distinct for my query

AparanjitI am using a query where I am using distinct in it, to get the unique rows. But I want to avoid using distinct in my query, little confused in how to do that can anyone help me out. Here is the query: SELECT DISTINCT pp.PLCY_NO, pp.PLCY_PRD_END_DT, Rtrim((SELECT...

@ypercube how dare you say this is a dup!! :)
@ypercube This is not the Duplicate and the Question which you related is not matching with my question. — SQLMike 35 mins ago
 
2:12 PM
@AaronBertrand nice article. Hopefully that gets high in the Google results! I see a very slight spelling mistake: "Still, it is a good think to be conscious of this issue" should be "Still, it is a good thing to be conscious of this issue"
 
@MaxVernon thanks, not sure why spell check didn't catch that!
 
@bluefeet HOW DARE YOU SAY!
@billinkc I think so too. — user37205 1 hour ago
 
mikkakuprapalli
 
Makes my upper lip just itch imagining that hair caterpillar sitting on it
 
2:18 PM
hey @Kermit your edit was fixed -- stackoverflow.com/posts/25999823/revisions
 
@AaronBertrand This I wasn't aware of at all: "RCSI can't use efficient allocation order scans; you will see range scans instead." That could have a pretty negative effect for some workloads!
 
Nice thing about sqlmike's question, if it gets reopened, I can still dupehammer it close and or we can have the Heap♦ fix it
 
@billinkc or just ask me
 
Didn't you already blow your admin wad on closing it?
 
@billinkc mod power, remember?
 
2:29 PM
I have a short SQUIRREL
 
I can do what I want whenever I want and you can't stop me!!!
y'all gave me the POWER!!
 
As long as the power hasn't corrupted you, that's all that matters
 
some days, right @Kermit? :)
 
How does your spouse feel about you having gone mad with power? Does she have to feed you grapes and fan you with palm fronds when you come home?
 
@billinkc ha, she thinks it's weird that I volunteer to do this stuff.
and I get so excited when I get swag boxes from SE
but then again, she thinks I'm weird because I do crossfit.
So maybe I'm just weird
 
2:32 PM
Blame your parents, you have to live up to the name
 
@MaxVernon see here and here.
 
Sunday I realized as I was doing unexpected yard work "this is my very white dba.se shirt, let's not get this stained with dirt"
 
I understand that.
Anyone in here got experience with hierarchyid?
 
si
 
JNK
@billinkc mine got ruined within a week or two
The collar just came unsewn for no reason
 
2:34 PM
Woah
 
@billinkc is it a giant pain in the ass to implement?
 
In my limited experience it is not fun
 
JNK
I think @AndriyM has worked with it?
 
(I am not saying not to use it, just be ready for a steep learning curve to start)
 
JNK
Or am I thinking of Alex K
 
2:36 PM
Our business case was that I had to shorten a hierarchy. "True" hierarchy was Grunt reports to supervisor, supervisor to manager, manager to VP, VP to P. "Actual" was Grunt to Manager because the supervisor was not filled
 
JNK
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Q: Anybody using HierarchyId in production? Is it reliable?

A-KIs anybody using HierarchyId in real production with tables of reasonable size, more than a few thousand rows? Is it reliable/performant? So far I have not found anyone not affiliated with the vendor recommend it, and Paul Nielsen advises against it here. What is your experience with using Hiera...

 
basically we have a string that has a hierarchy - :1:1234:8975:685: and we have to currently split this. I'd prefer to stop doing this.
 
JNK
oh good lord I hate that so much just looking at it
 
If you replace : with / and cast as hierarchyid does it work?
 
@billinkc not sure yet. The whole thing is ugly because we have weird rules about of trees
 
2:38 PM
Peaches grow on trees
 
@JNK try splitting it and moving up and down the tree. It sucks!
 
Tell your third-party provider to learn how to database. — Kermit 8 secs ago
@bluefeet lol
 
@billinkc your spanish is good enough for this:
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Q: Fluent in Spanish? We're hiring a Community Manager for a Spanish Stack Overflow

JaydlesHere's where you can find the full details and application. But if you hate clicking: Requirements If you're fluent in Spanish and you're reading this, you likely have at least 75% of the things we're looking for for this role: Fluency in English and Spanish (native-level writing in Spanish)...

 
How goes it kids?
 
@Lamak why not you?
 
2:40 PM
Si', mi espan~ol es fantastico
 
@bluefeet too much time and effort I guess
 
I did win a round in Ruzzle playing a native Spanish speaker
 
@Lamak but it'd be a new job :)
 
@billinkc see?, you are ready
 
I'd totally do it but I've got a lack of speaking spanish
 
2:41 PM
@JNK Not really. I think I didn't know about its existence before I started using SO. Still know little about it.
 
Requirements: "Mastery of diplomacy and persuasion skills", seems like a job for @jackDouglas
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@Lamak you should apply for this
 
@Lamak I think you'd be good at this.
 
@ypercube I agree
 
Plus, you'll get chances to visit New York. And other cool American places.
 
2:43 PM
@ypercube I am going to new york, for christmas :-)
 
@Lamak Nice.
 
Woonsocket RI is a hot spot especially around Christmas
 
sounds like a bad christmas present. You should try KFC, it's way more enjoyable
 
@bluefeet What do you mean that you need splitting the string?
 
@ypercube yeah, the wife and me are spending the holidays over there. It will be christmas in NY and new year's in Miami
 
2:45 PM
Every time a query needs to access the hierarchy?
@Lamak See. Maybe SO will be paying next year Christmas' trip.
 
@ypercube so if we need to know a customer hierarchy - we split that string into multiple rows and determine what level we need
 
@billinkc why i need to edit my question. its clear and got reply from users mhn, thomas harathy. please let me know which part is not clear and then i will explain you clearly. — SQLMike 1 min ago
 
@Lamak Don't change the subject, apply for that job.
 
@bluefeet And only this string has the hierarchy. Or other there related columns (level, parentid, etc)
 
the spanish SO is facing quite some negativity though:
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A: Fluent in Spanish? We're hiring a Community Manager for a Spanish Stack Overflow

ken2kI won't comment here about the Spanish community manager job. I'm commenting here about the crazy idea you had to create a Stack Overflow website for 10 different languages. That's the stupidest idea I've ever seen on meta. I'm French, I always speak French, everyone at my job speaks French, bu...

 
2:47 PM
@ypercube it is really just stored there. So if we need to figure something out we have to work with that string
 
OK. Then HierarchyID may be the easiest way to go.
 
@Zane I thought that I had dodge that bullet, I'm still lacking on my diversion skills
 
@Lamak so was the request for mentors. It's MSO people get pissy with anything. The issue isn't just the site, it's the fact that SE is using MSO to asks for things
 
@bluefeet I also find it weird that they are deciding on posts this things in meta
 
@bluefeet Yeah. That really annoys me. I mean the negativity from users.
 
2:49 PM
@Lamak I think you'd be great for it. When you've interacted on MSO/MSE you always are on-point with your comments and you're willing to listen to others. That's a big thing
 
@bluefeet thanks for the vote of confidence. The thing is that I don't think I'm ready to commit to something like this
 
@Lamak alright, but I think you'd be great at it. ;)
 
If Lomuk applies for the position, I will need to invest in some Chilean alcohol producers. You will start after being subjected to that all day long :D
 
@ypercube that's what I'm thinking. Now I've got to try and implement it
 
@Lamak Come on my give into the peer pressue.
 
2:54 PM
Maybe the heap should be renamed to Lamak for CM to add to the pressure
 
If it were clear, they would have provided answers. Instead, we have comments. Your question was put on hold and marked as a duplicate because it is not clear. The SSIS tag is mine. I love SSIS, do it all day long and I'm telling you, I don't understand what you are attempting to do. — billinkc 7 mins ago
 
@bluefeet lol. Anyway, thanks for the encouragement :-)
 
Bloofoot's megalomania is rubbing off
 
> @billinkc: SSIS is mine
 
'tis
 
2:55 PM
yeah, I'm awful
 
Ever since Siva quit and deleted their account, no one's close
 
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@swasheck was expecting a real truck
 
but @Lamak is far too valuable to the SQL community to be mired in community management
 
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3:21 PM
boom
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A: Unique Contrains in Vertica DB

KermitVertica does not enforce uniqueness of primary key or unique constraints on load due to the potential overhead associated with the operation. If ANALYZE_CONSTRAINTS() is run before committing, you should be able to capture potential duplicates. There's also overhead with doing UPDATEs and those...

 
@Kermit Vertica does not enforce uniqueness. Really?
 
@ypercube I'm beginning to think Vertica has weirdness like MySQL
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You should see its group by
 
You are just teasing Kermit.
 
@ypercube yes, yes I am
 
3:25 PM
@ypercube on load
@ypercube @bluefeet it will throw an error if you try to query with a join to a dimension table
@billinkc it doesn't group by like mysql
 
@Kermit So If I load data, other sessions cannot see them until I commit? And what happens if there are duplicates? Load rejected?
 
@Kermit does it enforce foreign keys or it doesn't because of the overhead?
 
@ypercube it's ACID compliant
@Lamak does not enforce foreign keys either
 
@Kermit MySQL says that, too.
 
@ypercube GROUP BY doesn't fall under ACID
 
3:29 PM
@Kermit ah
so, it's like a NoSQL thing
 
@Kermit I wasn't referring to group by.
 
@Lamak definitely not NoSQL..
 
nah, I'm just teasing you too
 
@Kermit I really can't understand your answer there. I load data. I run the analyze thing. It finds duplicates. Now what?
 
@ypercube delete one of the duplicates, then commit
 
3:32 PM
OK. Does this analyze return the suspects or just a yes/no?
 
@ypercube returns the suspects
 
I understand the resistance of SO in other languages, and I also think it's really important to learn english.....that said, this kind of comments still pisses me off
Fragmenting the sites into multiple languages is the worst possible idea that ever happened to SO ever. It only creates borders and kills the global community spirit. Most likely localized sites will attract lazy people who can't bother to learn English, and if you can't learn English as a programmer, then with all due respect I don't know what you're doing in this industry in the first place. — Bartek Banachewicz 4 mins ago
 
CREATE TABLE public.source (
    a INT PRIMARY KEY
);

INSERT INTO public.source (a) VALUES (1);
COMMIT;

INSERT INTO public.source (a) VALUES (1);

SELECT ANALYZE_CONSTRAINTS('public.source');
that would give
 Schema Name | Table Name | Column Names | Constraint Name | Constraint Type | Column Values
-------------+------------+--------------+-----------------+-----------------+---------------
 public      | SOURCE     | a            | C_PRIMARY       | PRIMARY         | ('1')
(1 row)
 
So, if you don't know english then you are lazy
 
@Lamak You have "... that you call people that you insult people ..."
 
3:36 PM
@ypercube had
;-)
 
> the worst possible idea that ever happened to SO ever.
pot. kettle.
 
@swasheck where is that from?
 
I just don't get the logic from some of those users
@TimPost "the people we're looking to serve" served by whom? Because whoever will serve them won't be serving me and all the others able to at least read English. I resent that. — VonC 17 mins ago
 
7 mins ago, by Lamak
Fragmenting the sites into multiple languages is the worst possible idea that ever happened to SO ever. It only creates borders and kills the global community spirit. Most likely localized sites will attract lazy people who can't bother to learn English, and if you can't learn English as a programmer, then with all due respect I don't know what you're doing in this industry in the first place. — Bartek Banachewicz 4 mins ago
 
@swasheck ahh, I pulled a you and didn't read the transcript
 
3:42 PM
48 secs ago, by swasheck
7 mins ago, by Lamak
Fragmenting the sites into multiple languages is the worst possible idea that ever happened to SO ever. It only creates borders and kills the global community spirit. Most likely localized sites will attract lazy people who can't bother to learn English, and if you can't learn English as a programmer, then with all due respect I don't know what you're doing in this industry in the first place. — Bartek Banachewicz 4 mins ago
 
@bluefeet it happens.
 
3 mins ago, by Kermit
48 secs ago, by swasheck
7 mins ago, by Lamak
Fragmenting the sites into multiple languages is the worst possible idea that ever happened to SO ever. It only creates borders and kills the global community spirit. Most likely localized sites will attract lazy people who can't bother to learn English, and if you can't learn English as a programmer, then with all due respect I don't know what you're doing in this industry in the first place. — Bartek Banachewicz 4 mins ago
In how many levels does it break?
 
33 secs ago, by ypercube
3 mins ago, by Kermit
48 secs ago, by swasheck
7 mins ago, by Lamak
Fragmenting the sites into multiple languages is the worst possible idea that ever happened to SO ever. It only creates borders and kills the global community spirit. Most likely localized sites will attract lazy people who can't bother to learn English, and if you can't learn English as a programmer, then with all due respect I don't know what you're doing in this industry in the first place. — Bartek Banachewicz 4 mins ago
I think that this is a good argument:
@BartekBanachewicz The notion that the existence of SO in other language is fragmenting the community is totally false. The "global programming community" is already fragmented because not everyone is comfortable asking and answering questions in English. If it feels united to you, it's because you are privileged to be proficient in English and are part of the community. Silence from non-English speakers does not equal the nonexistence of non-English-speaking programmers. — Laura ♦ 2 mins ago
 
@Lamak yes, it's the same thing that was said when it came to the mentoring request for women.
 
And I upvoted those comments too :-)
 
3:49 PM
@Lamak to summarize: argument from silence is an extremely weak argument
 
yup
 
boy sql fiddle is really dead today
 
(kidding --- just being an idiot. i have a raging headache)
on-call was not good to me
 
Sorry for this. I'll delete immediately.
 
nice
are you trying to break things @ypercube?
 
3:57 PM
Yep.
 
its the best way to learn
(for me)
 
@swasheck boy, that must have been an awkward first kiss ;-)
 
@Lamak you'd have to ask her
 
When's the petting zoo open?
 
4:04 PM
@lamak Way I heard it, she was traumatized after they locked braces and spent the next 30 minutes trying to separate. She then went and joined a lesbian revolutionary group in El Salvador.
 
lol
 
@MikeFal never had braces ... but otherwise that sounds about right?
@billinkc you looking for a date?
 
@swasheck Nah, I've got 60 days left on that TRO
 
at least yours is temporary
 
4:28 PM
@bluefeet How do you think one could ask some questions about the spanish CM thing, so to not waste everyone's time?
 
"Tengo una prengunta"
 
@Lamak what do you mean? You have specific questions about the job?
 
@billinkc i got your pregunta right here
 
You could probably ping one of the CMs and talk with them in chat.
doesn't have to be in this chatroom, you could create a separate room
 
@bluefeet ah, right, didn't think about it
 
4:31 PM
If you need a translator, yo estoy aqui
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@Lamak doesn't even have to be Shog. I can try to get one of the CMs that is for one of the other SO sites.
 
@bluefeet I know, but I like @shog9...sometimes
 
and sometimes you love him?
 
@billinkc right
you know me too well
 
porque tu eres mi hermano de otro madre
 
4:34 PM
@Lamak well there is Gabe who does the PT.SO and jmac who will be JP.SO
 
I am so happy that no native spanish speakers are within arms reach
 
@Lamak Post your questions in an answer to that post on meta - that's why it's there.
Unless you're shy, in which case invite one of us into a chatroom.
 
I knew @Shog9 was watching... silently
 
;-P
 
@bluefeet he always does
@Shog9 I thought that the post was in meta so people could post the million ways why this idea sucks
 
4:37 PM
@Lamak well that too, but that doesn't preclude other uses. Really, whatever questions or concerns you might have, post 'em up.
It's meta
There are no rules
Except for the ones we make up as we go along
And heck, you can't really do worst the Laszlo at this point, so what's holding you back?
 
@Shog9 new rules daily?
 
fresh-baked
 
@Shog9 boy, you are a great motivator
 
Thanks. Join me on Saturday for my speech at the airport Hilton, "You're gonna die alone anyway, so why are you so worried about failure?" - only $20, bad coffee provided
 
Hey, I'm going to die anyway, I'm not paying $20 on top of that
 
JNK
4:43 PM
@Lamak If you're going to die what does money matter?
 
You do realize that if you were using proper referential keys and actions you wouldn't need to cause yourself this headache. — Kermit 6 secs ago
 
@JNK uhmmm....good question. Well, I expect my wife to outlive me, so
 
JNK
good reasoning
 
she might need those $20 in the future :-)
 
@Lamak That's only because she'll murder you in your sleep
 
4:45 PM
@billinkc nah, she's too noisy, I would wake up first
 
That's hearingist
 
@JNK Hey man, you ever use this: powertheshell.com/isesteroids
 
yay kids!
 
JNK
@MikeFal nope but I detest the native ISE
I use PowerGUI
The native ISE has all kinds of crap bugs especially when debugging
 
@JNK Yeah, haven't used PowerGUI yet. Mostly the ISE, ISESteroids adds a lot of functionality
PowerGUI is a paytool?
 
JNK
4:59 PM
nope its free
 
Hrmmm....will check it out
 
JNK
I think the ISE is a step in the right direction but its a hot mess
and I was using powergui before there was an ISE
 
Meh, luke warm mess. :)
 
JNK
I think the ISE was introduced in 3.0 right?
 
Write-Host is my debugger in all languages
 
5:00 PM
@swasheck Why didn't you tell me you were doing a VC presentation?
@billinkc And that....is why you fail
 
@MikeFal because i didnt want attention
 
@swasheck Shit dude, you need to wave that around on a big purple flag saying "Check this out!!!!"
 
that's not really my thing, y'know?
 
Can anyone translate this?
I'm running the Create script right after my full backup restore, so I get 24 and then I select everything from Sys.Foreign_Keys that gives me all my current FKs of 34, which tells me that the Create script is truncating the rest of them as the last Alter statement (24th) in the output of the Create script is missing the name of the Foreign key that its referencing, so I manually type the rest of it when I paste it into my query editor window, so it seems I have to see which ones are also missing to total it to 34 Alter Add statements for each drop. — Shayma Ahmad 4 mins ago
I don't have the mental capacity for that today.
 
> Ich bin mit der Erstellung Skript direkt nach meiner vollen Backup wiederherzustellen, so dass ich 24 und dann ich alles von sys.foreign_keys, die mir alle meine aktuellen FKs von 34, die mir sagt, dass das Skript erstellen Abschneiden der Rest von ihnen als letzte Anweisung ALTER (24.) in der Ausgabe des Skripts erstellen den Namen der Fremdschlüssel,
> der seine Referenzierung fehlt, so dass ich den Rest von ihm manuell eingeben, wenn ich einfach in meiner Abfrage-Editor-Fenster, so dass es scheint, ich habe zu sehen, welche ebenfalls fehlt, um es zu insgesamt 34 Aussagen hinzufügen Alter für jeden Tropfen.
or
> Τρέχω το σενάριο αμέσως μετά την πλήρη αποκατάσταση της δημιουργίας αντιγράφων ασφαλείας μου Δημιουργία, ώστε να πάρω 24 και στη συνέχεια θα επιλέξετε τα πάντα, από Sys.Foreign_Keys που μου δίνει όλες τις τρέχουσες FKS μου 34, το οποίο μου λέει ότι το σενάριο Δημιουργήστε το περικόπτοντας τους υπόλοιπους όπως την τελευταία δήλωση Alter (24) στην έξοδο του σεναρίου Δημιουργήστε λείπει το όνομα του Εξωτερικού κλειδί που παραπομπών του,
> γι 'αυτό πληκτρολογήσετε τον υπόλοιπο αυτό όταν το επικολλήσετε στο παράθυρο του editor ερώτημα μου, έτσι φαίνεται έχω για να διαπιστωθεί ποιοι από αυτούς λείπουν επίσης να ανέρχονται σε 34 Alter Προσθήκη δηλώσεις για κάθε πτώση.
 
5:03 PM
@AaronBertrand That's my assumption as well. They're looking at it and SSMS is truncating
 
@swasheck You get slaps for that
 
@billinkc I'm amazed at how many people really believe that their script is truncated because "NVARCHAR(MAX) can only hold 4000 characters"
 
uhhh ... ok
@AaronBertrand i think it's a fairly easy mistake to make, once. but learn from it and move on. also, don't argue with people who know what they're talking about
 
@swasheck yeah, that's true, but so easy to check in other ways
e.g. LEN(@sql)
 
oh. no doubt about that, but people suddenly panic and dont think clearly :)
(myself included)
 
5:11 PM
<facepalm>
There is no way anyone can make recommendations based solely on statistics I/O output. Could you show the query, and maybe an actual post-execution plan (post the XML somewhere, don't take a screen shot of it)? — Aaron Bertrand ♦ 12 secs ago
 
Ok, I honestly hit a language barrier here:
@TheLostMind That kind of throws the idea for SO to be a unified knowledge bank for programming/coding questions aside. If I have a problem regarding X, and there is an answer in <insert foreign language here> and not in English, SO wouldn't carry the same fairness that it does now. — OverMind 11 mins ago
What does "fairness" means in this context?
 
I don't have to do any work to understand it because I'm a native speaker
It's not fair if I had to struggle through translating a solution from a foreign language
It'd be like all the mathematics papers being published in German. How unfair would that be
 
I'm really asking because I commented about the "fairness" thing, but got this reply:
@Lamak I applaud your brain's ability to formulate what I said into "OVerMind said it's not fair if an answer is in another language!". Looking at my comment logically and abstractly, I am saying if I have a question, and there's a thread on SO regarding it, but the answer isn't in English, how is that benefitting the general public, when code is in English? What language is documentation written in? What if there's a link on a foreign language SO site that points to English documentation because none exists in that language? Is that fair? Or the way the the world is? — OverMind 6 mins ago
 
@Lamak IT'S ON BISH!!!!!!!!!!!! dont insult my (online) "friend-type-sentient being"
 
@swasheck lol, thanks. But I really want to know what "fairness" meant in his comment
 
5:17 PM
@Lamak and i will do what i can in order to insult it out of him
 
Non-English need not apply
 
@billinkc ah, see?, you are helpful, don't let people tell you otherwise
@swasheck I don't see an insult. — OverMind 15 secs ago
 
Sincerely. I read that as "fairness" being the general public is English speakers. Nevermind what facts might get in the way
 
@billinkc no, I know, I think you are right
 
Better star that, probably the only times those words will escape your lips
 
5:21 PM
my lips are sealed, it was this stupid keyboard
 
45 MB execution plan. Awesome.
 
@AaronBertrand nice.
 
@AaronBertrand lol what?
 
@AaronBertrand is you NOLOCK blog aimed directly at my workspace?
@swasheck Blocked.
 
5:27 PM
@Zane yes
 
@Zane me too ... i just copy/pasted the link from the question
@AaronBertrand everytime i look at that question, i read the person's name as "Armpit Singh"
 
Is it bad I am watching a C# pluralsight course to actually learn it?
 
why would that be bad?
 
Ok the plan is 45 MB (!) and your chosen download service is throttled and very slow. So right now my browser estimates I will have the plan fully downloaded in about a half hour (and I have 90Mbps down). So, I'll revisit later unless you feel like putting it somewhere more useful, like OneDrive, GoogleDrive, DropBox, etc. — Aaron Bertrand ♦ 8 secs ago
 
I dunno
 
5:30 PM
There is no way anyone can make recommendations based solely on statistics I/O output. Could you show the query, and maybe an actual post-execution plan (post the XML somewhere, don't take a screen shot of it)? — Aaron Bertrand ♦ 19 mins ago
ha ha!
 
I should have been more specific than "somewhere"
^^^^ that service he's using sucks
 
wow.
 
I don't think the problem is me
 
you're averaging ~28 KB/s on that DL
 
OMG that number looks familiar
 
5:36 PM
@AaronBertrand showoff. you're going to start all the KC posting their Google Fiber stuff and we're going to have another "most-on-the-post" contest
> It has 7 Left Join tables.
 
Like I'm that crass
 
@AaronBertrand Nice
You're Verizon right?
 
Yes FiOS
I'm paying for 75/75
Well, my wife's work is paying for 75/75
 
@AaronBertrand I could punch you in the head.
:)
I'm paying 75 for up to 50 from comcast. I usually get significantly better speeds on my MotoX than I get at home.
 
I've been really impressed with LTE speeds since getting the 6
(4s I had before only supported 3g)
 
5:42 PM
@Zane comcast sucks, but it sucks less than clink
@AaronBertrand yeah. i've really liked LTE
(but with the 5)
 
I'm sure it's the same or close
 
I had it on my GS3 and now my MotoX and it's awesome. The best speed I've gotten was 63 down 30 up and it's always consistently faster on my phone than my home PC.
My home Wifi averages 36 ad 15.
 
@Zane I get 20-25 down and 5 up (at my house, where I don't need it obviously)
 
Speaking of motoX the new version has poop for battery life. What the shiz that's the whole reason I got this thing.
 
Haven't done any tests out in public where it's likely better
 
5:47 PM
is this valid syntax?
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A: Insert into inside cross apply

Lukas EderThe missing output clause would go right here: SELECT ID FROM T1 CROSS APPLY ( INSERT INTO FINAL(TEXT1, TEXT2, TEXT3) -- here vvv OUTPUT ... -- here ^^^ SELECT T2.TEXT1, T2.TEXT2, T3.TEXT3 FROM T2, T3 WHERE T2.VALUE = T3.VALUE AND T2.ID ...

 
Does Mophie or anyone else make a battery case for it? I loved having a durable battery on my 4s (waiting for them to release products for the 6)
 
FFS, I'm so tired of people on conference bridges who don't mute themselves.
 
@Lamak Looks to be correct (you can do really weird looking things with the OUTPUT clause)
 
@MikeFal work?
 
I wouldn't have guessed
 
5:50 PM
@Lamak No. He's making it up.
 
@PaulWhite ah, my bad for believing @billinkc
2
 
boy-oy-oing
That's what I was doing exactly as I understood it by copying whatever the script is printing out and pasting it! Isn't that what the script is all doing? Thanks for posting the link above, I will try validating and check the long strings with your solution. — Shayma Ahmad 3 mins ago
 
What the actual fuck?! Why are we joining fact tables to dimensions based on character strings?!
 
@Zane never heard that one. i just spat coffee all over my laptop. thanks.
 
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