i havent been here in at least 3 or 4 years and the whole of SE is basically imploding

thats nuts

Ah, that make sense

@nine You mean the CoC changes?

yes

doesn't look like much has changed here

absolutely nothing

Yeah, most of the mess was on the sites where the fired moderator was active, which coincidentally also had somewhat more issues with the pronoun changes than we do

lol

@Ash I'm just trying to talk about it...

how does any of this relate to programming or video games

Like, someone brings it up, why can't I reply?

that's all i can ask every time i see anything like this arising

Is @nine Retro?

no

@nine Want to take this to TIF?

I checked already

@Nzall where

They were on my ignored list

Hey let's maybe not actually

Okay, where should we take this then?

So clearly when they were here a few years ago they were also problematic to some extent.

@Nzall Nowhere at all?

Like, I can't create rooms myself

@fredley they're Texenox

Oh Christ

@Nzall Really? I thought anyone could create rooms

be thankful i haven't been here for the past 4 years

@murgatroid99 also that name sucks now and i hate it

did you get room create banned by getting kicked too many times or something?

I don't know if I can create rooms

that's the only thing I can think of, a 75k user should otherwise have room create

let me put it like that

Looks like I actually can create rooms

(also it's weird that that's a kind of ban room owners can hand out lol)

could have sworn i made some bangers on the starred list before a few times though, innit

i werent that bad

Maybe that's a solution: I create a room for things Ash doesn't want to talk about

so a room where we can take discussions to that are appropriate but somewhat controversial

It's probably still better to extremely not

@Nzall The CoC applies in all rooms

why not

what are u scared of lmao

@fredley I should have phrased that differently, both of those

Okay, I'll drop it for now

-hostility

@Nzall I think that's best. What you said was not nice, please be nice here and everywhere on the SE network.

what did he say

@nine There's no need to go over it.

rahh ok then, jeez

see you lot in another 4 years

Honestly, I'm not entirely following what the issue is with creating another room. I agree with not wanting to rehash this particular conversation for the umpteenth time, but I don't see what would be so bad about people who want to have that conversation doing so somewhere else.

@Ash Sorry for my offensive remarks

@murgatroid99 Creating another room is fine, the message was rudely phrased though.

@fredley ...really

@fredley Yeah, I definitely should have worded it differently.

that was the comment you needed to scold him for?

@Nzall I'm glad you see that.

@nine You're toeing the line. Drop this.

Please can everyone familiarise themselves with the Be Nice policy.

or just ban me in advance, that honestly works for me at this point

dunno why i bothered checking back, this is so weak

If you plan to continue behaving this way I don't have a problem with doing that. Would you like me to?

@fredley Can we discuss creating another bridge offshoot when I get back from dinner?

I mean, we definitely don't need anything long-term

@Nzall There's no need to discuss. If you want to create a room that's up to you, and you can invite people directly.

and it looks like we may no longer need anything short-term either

@Unionhawk Yeah, true, most topics can be discussed here, but from time to time there might be a topic some of us want to discuss in a civil manner that other people might not want to talk about right now

and it might be useful to have a different room that's not TIF

even if it's frozen most of the time

@Ave that's horrible news :(

I hope you enjoyed CCC at least

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