For reasons unfathomable to me, the phone hates my home wifi.

What happens?

I've never had any problems with any Wifi connection.

It just hangs forever at waiting for IP address.

And before you go crazy, my profession for many years was network engineer.

:-)

It should be working.

is it intermittent or did you mistype your key?

It wouldn't get the stage of asking for an IP if i had mistyped the key.

probably the same story if you're filtering on MACs too right?

I have not set up any mac filtering.

in that case.

Ha!

Spyware your wired new PC?

@Cerberus ??

@SAJ14SAJ That's what the dice say, isn't it?

@Cerberus Ah....

Hi

hi @Mien

did you go see something good at your festival last night?

I didn't went.

But there were a few things I wanted to see.

I'll go for a drink this afternoon, and perhaps this evening for a concert of a German guy ;)

mhm

@Mien what kind of concert? ... Germans do all kinds of music ;-)

Mambo Kurt

not sure if you know him

@Mien no I don't, but I looked him up now and it looks like fun ... so, enjoy! =)

Hehe thanks.

Hi @rumtscho, thanks for the link to the fractional freezing from last night ... interesting stuff

I just copied your message and the link to a comment to the relevant question ... and nobody dared to take away your fame and points by making it into a proper answer =)

testing testing 1 2 3

broadsword calling danny boy, broadsword calling danny boy

never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few

me me me me meeeee

broadband works then

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

@ElendilTheTalll are you okay?

@Mien Do Belgian's eat jalepenos? I would think it would be too much :-) It is for me, now that I am older. Eating them is great, but their return visit around 2:00 AM, not so much...

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Most Belgians do not know them.

@Mien yes thanks

@ElendilTheTall I already said that!

I ordered seeds online and planted them.

I use jalapenos mostly in chilis

@SAJ14SAJ so you did, but it bears repeating

@ElendilTheTall :-)

so @ElendilTheTall and @SAJ14SAJ are family?

@Mien ??

He has Lady The Tall and Toddler the Tall. I am just some stranger across the ocean sea.

damn the ADSL training period

@ElendilTheTall What are you talking about? And who uses ADSL in 2013?

everyone

everyone who doesn't use cable, anyway

ADSL is popular in England? It is practically extinct here.

And what is a "training" period?

well, it's ADSL+

up to 25mbps

I suspect due to the smaller scale of the country it is more cost effective

Probably like eating steamed pudding. Just one of those wierd things.

VDSL?

and the training period is when a new line goes in, they start the connection speed quite low and slowly increase it to achieve a balance between speed and stability

what is the norm in the US?

@ElendilTheTall What ever that technology is, it isn't ADSL. ADSL doesn't work that way.

Around here? Cable probably. I have fiber.

DSL was from the 90s.

well, it's what they still call it here, regardless of what it might be

it's coming down the phone line alongside the telephone calls

@SAJ14SAJ ... the 2 AM return of the jalapenos really doesn't sound great

@ElendilTheTall also here in Germany many people still have DSL

My view of English computing :-)

I have to feed the kitties and myself. Starting in 40 minutes, I have nonstop phone conferences for hours :-(

I believe the current standard is ADSL2+

I also suspect that your view of broadband technology is skewed by your living in a major conurbation

@MartinTurjak Definitely not as delicious as their original menu appearance, no.

I'd like to know how many farms in Iowa have fiber optic piped out to them

@SAJ14SAJ this is how we do it here in Germany

I didn't say fiber was common, except, well, here in this one metro area.

Verizon decided it wasn't profitable enough or something, and stopped rolling it out. I am lucky.

Should the kitties get the blue can, the orange can, or the purple can today?

Cable TV is much less common here

hence so is cable internet

Satellite is much more prevalent

orange

They will be delighted. They like all the kitty crack.

well, I am happy to say that my new local chippy does excellent chips

possibly the best I have ever had, because he actually cooks them twice like a sane person

Here chippy is a slang term for prostitute. A cheap one.

@ElendilTheTall by which you hopefully mean fries ;-)

here it's slang for A) a fish and chip shop or B) a carpenter

I have yet to sample the local Indian, pizzeria, or cheap prostitutes

I take it Lady the Tall is not reading this !

@ElendilTheTall do the prostitutes offer their local cuisine there?

I have yet to sample them, and I have no intention of doing so

@MartinTurjak their...there :P

the move was carried out in 33ºC/91ºF

perfect conditions to be moving furniture

I was sweating like a pregnant nun

@ElendilTheTall fixed already

@ElendilTheTall when we were moving here it was raining like hell

ah, the other end of the scale

half of the furniture got water damage

so I had to sweat twice ... when moving ... and when fixing the furniture

I wish I lived in Japan

It doesn't get really bad until 95, you wimp! :-)

Glad you moved succesfully, even if sweatily

luckily the shower is fecking awesome

you could hold off a zombie invasion with it

@ElendilTheTall that's awesome

@ElendilTheTall This happens a lot in England, does it?

@SAJ14SAJ oh, every other week

@ElendilTheTall Thought so

we are a centre of medical and military research and, well, accidents happen!

@ElendilTheTall Why, your flat would be 12 mm sq!

@ElendilTheTall my experience with showers in England was quite the opposite ... in my fiancees apartment it was more like drip irrigation

@SAJ14SAJ but the movers would move it so efficiently

In a small shopping bag! That would be all that would fit!

Nevertheless I would like to visit

Though I suspect I would be an object of gawking

@ElendilTheTall Are you two meters tall and blond? If so, yes.

not blonde, but 2 meters, nearly

@ElendilTheTall I like that the movers even clean everything ^_^

I have a very blonde friend who visited and couldn't walk 50 yards without someone wanting to take a photo of her

@MartinTurjak and if they break something, they lay down a tarp and commit ritual seppuku en masse

@ElendilTheTall lol

the last one tidies up before leaping from the window into the truck

so @SAJ14SAJ, is cerberus talking to you yet?

@ElendilTheTall Next morning. Nothing happened.

Nothing has been mentioned.

Now that guy in meta, I tried to make nice, and now I am ignoring him.

might be some kind of bad aura ;-)

I am unaware of that guy

@ElendilTheTall No loss to you

@ElendilTheTall look into the other chat room ... the whole discussion is there

if I am thinking of the right one

@MartinTurjak you overestimate how much of a fuck I give

Was it a ^flying^ one?

:D

lol ... obviously overestimated

Is there a rolling donut?

Julie andrews at breakfast? That is creul, man

Creul? What are you, a hipsteR?

;)

Typing one hand

Chicken on other

@SAJ14SAJ bon appetit

chicken for breakfast?

chicken on your hand?

@SAJ14SAJ if this alpine landscape filled with Julie's f***s hasn't ruined the appetite yet

I was eating fried chicken, leftovers, for breakfast. No cooking.

Now I am back upstairs to pretend to work.

The furry contingent is provisioned.

The day may begin.

fried chicken for breakfast

only in America

Yes, I had no cold pizza.

At least we don't eat beans for breakfast, limey! :-)

I tend to eat leftovers for breakfast in any case. So whatever was for dinner the night before is likely to be breakfast the next day.

I would say the vast majority of people here eat cereal or toast for breakfast

fry ups are a rarity

The beasties had to settle for a purple can, all of the oranges from that box had been eaten.

I imagine the cannonical breakfast hear would be none. Cereal is probably second.

I am not mainstream in this regard.

You lost your spelling part of the brain I'm afraid

@Mien ???

hear instead of here

Mayne, ef u wurry aboot mai speling, yu wil spent al dei.

@SAJ14SAJ this makes me feel a bit better about my spelling too ;-)

but people seem to be always nice and understanding

when I tell them that I am deslyctic

:-)

@SAJ14SAJ re: the knife question. I can't possibly be the only person who thinks that Tim Ferris kind of ruins everything, can I?

@sourd'oh I have no idea who the one is, but his specific idea is... well, since this is chat I can be direct.... stupid

I tried googling him, and he seems to be a serial swindler, not any kind of culinary expert.

If it is indeed the same person.

THAT is who Mando is using as an authority?

Usually he does better than that sort of... stuff.

Yeah, I bot TF's cookbook to see what the hype was about, and it was... well, all hype

bought, man... my spelling isn't that bad!

:-)

But he seemed to have a "trick" to everything, and a lot of them were just dumb. He seemed to be "flying in the face of conventional wisdom" just for the sake of it, not because his method actually worked better.

Sounds like a waste of your time.

Yeah. The book was on special from Amazon, and it was an interesting read, but since it was marketed as a cookbook for people who can't cook... I mean, he spends a lot of it talking about gellification and trapping animals, which I would hope an amateur chef would save for advanced learning.

It's all so quiet

It's all so still

I'm going to bed

to read a book

well that's boring

@ElendilTheTall

Does polenta in UK usage also mean the dry meal, as well as the prepared porridge?

yes

You'd normally find it on the shelf with other Italian ingredients marked as polenta, and elsewhere, say the Indian section, it would be marked as cornmeal

So in that recipe, could the author have meant the dry cornmeal, not prepared polenta?

I would think that if the recipe meant prepared polenta it would have either listed it as "prepared" or included instructions for preparing it in the recipe. My bet is they did want cornmeal.

That is what I thought but I didn't want to write an answer not knowing Brit speak

hi, has anyone some exciting ideas for what to do with tarragon? I collected a couple of kilos at a friends garden ... to make a tarragon desert (tarragon potica), I will also make some pesto and tarragon vinegar, and I will freeze a lot ... but there will still be more left.

I know I am silly ... but I just got a bit overexcited in the garden ^_^

@sgmoye Hey, please do drop into chat to talk about your cookbook typography/layout book - I'm sure plenty of people here are interested and would have some ideas.

@MartinTurjak If I remember I'll look in the Flavor Bible when I get home!

@Jefromi that would be great, any ideas are appreciated ^_^

For questions like that I do usually like to go to places like foodgawker, search and scroll... but that works better for ingredients that are normally the main part of a dish, not herbs, unfortunately.

@Jefromi that's a great idea ... tarragon might be exotic enough to be the center of attention in some exciting dishes

=)

286 hits ... not bad

Does tarragon pesto exist?

@SAJ14SAJ Sure, if you make some! I'm sure you could do lemon-tarragon and use it as a rub for chicken or something.

I actually got a hit

eatingwell.com/recipes/tarragon_pesto.html

And then you can come back here and ask how to can it.

There seem to be lots of such recipes.

Pesto is tough to can though. I do have a jar of pesto in my pantry, but it is a commercial product.

I know, I was referring to all the questions we get about things like that.

There does seem to be a pattern lately.

Like the one that got bumped earlier cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/26102/…

Yes, I saw that.

Maybe we need a cannonical canning answer: 1) only follow good recipes; 2) don't.

cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/34938/… :(

I just really hate the idea that you can only make what someone else has bothered to come up with before. Surely there are a zillion things that are just obviously safe - adding spices or something for flavor, mixing fruits that are safe on their own, and so on.

I tend to agree with you, but I would't post an answer that says that.

Although in the trivial case of changing spicing, I would consider that in the noise.

@SAJ14SAJ Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is - but with all the paranoia it can be hard to tell sometimes. And then you ask, well, what about adding strips of orange zest? What about just a little lemon juice? What about...

Je comprends.

But this is a litigious society. So someone follows our eminently reasonable advise, supeonas the name behind our online identity, and sues us based on the outcome.

I am not going there personally.