@Khashir Ok, let me reread, I might get to undelete my answer :)

You're right, but it doesn't materially change Josh's answer (or make my deleted one correct). There is no initial damage for creatures on the damage side, outside of the wall

@waxeagle: Well, I have to rephrase the question, because when he says "yes," the implication is that creatures have to "save again" (as per my last sentence)

yeah

that needs to be done. (and suggest an edit on his answer as well)

when in fact there's no way to affect a creature twice with just the spell

right

*just one casting of the spell

yeah. They either don't need to save or can move out to the non-damage side for free

the key is to make it so they are either stuck or don't want to face the threat on the non-damage side

sigh so sad

was hoping to get so much value

too much, clearly

so, do i just fix his answer

or mention it in an comment?

with him, you can comment, he's around regularly

he's pingable in here too if you want to do it in chat