@ThoriumBR It wasn't. It was the fact that <script> tags inserted via innerHTML property are not executed, but <img> tags with event handlers are.

Also, terror attack in Austria.

5 people dead according to the latest news

One of the perpetrators was already in prison before for wanting to join the IS

According to the news, it was a "20-year-old Austrian with North Macedonian origins"

Our chancellor already stated that this was "not a fight between Christians and muslims, or Austrians and immigrants, but rather a fight between those believing in peace, and those wishing for war"

I guess the religion of peace struck again

I went here just to ask you how the things are there

@ThoriumBR Do you want the facts or my opinion?

why not both?

Facts are 5 people are dead, around 17 confirmed injured in the attack.

Our Ministry for Interior considers it an islamist terror attack

One of the perpetrators was shot by the police, two suspects were arrested, one suspect is still on the run

People are warned to stay at home if possible and avoid public transit if possible

That's basically the facts as far as I know them

I have some videos of people being shot, in case you'd like to see those

no, thanks...

I assumed so

the world is going mad...

It's strange to think about. One second you're drinking your beer, wondering when this COVID shit is ending, and the next you're bleeding out on the ground

So as for my opinion...

I'll try my best to keep it civil so Rory doesn't have to delete too much

I think the fact that the perpetrator was already in prison for 22 months for wanting to join the IS, and STILL was able to gain access to fully automatic rifles is beyond me.

The government is pissing all over me for owning a 30 round magazine, but if some terrorist owns a machine gun, suddenly we have no cops to check for that

@MechMK1 legally? or black market?

@ThoriumBR Of course black market

Fully-automatic firearms are illegal here

there's a country out there were he could legally own one...

I wish i could legally own one

Seeing as terrorists already have them, so the law and its enforcement doesn't seem to fucking work, now does it?

this will increase surveillance on every group, not only those suspected... like the 9/11 attack

Just what we needed.

law cannot analyze everything, so AI to the rescue

AI algorithms are biased, and those biases will hurt people..

those hurt will fight back, reinforcing the idea that the algorith was right

I am not feeling cheerful about that

Neither am I. But I find it so fucking weird how you hear "Terror attack in Vienna" and one half is like "I bet it was a muslim" and the other half is like "Let's not jump to conclusions" and lo and behold, it was a muslim

How many more people have to die before we recognize Islam is the common denominator when it comes to terror?

How many terror attacks by Buddhists do you recall? How many by Hindi? How many by Shintoists?

you're right... a terrorist attack in Vienna is a strange thing to hear.

and Islamic attacker is almost a synonym with terrorist attacker

except for a few self-inflicted terrorist attacks on the US (like the Oklahoma bomber), I don't remember lots of attacks by other groups...

and that one on New Zealand, and that Norwegian... and the Las Vegas shooting...

but those are the few exceptions

I still believe the Las Vegas shooting was a false flag

Too many things were just off about it

people do stupid things all the time... they do deadly stupid things when powerful guns are used

here in Brazil a long ago a teacher took a bomb to a plane because he lived close to the airport, and the airplanes disrupted his sleep... he detonated the bomb inside the plane, wasn't killed but ejected the seat of someone sitting next to him, killing the man

if he had access to a flak cannon I believe he would mount it on the top of his building to hunt down and kill the noisy metal birds

I mean he could also have moved

mental issues...

My point is that there seems to be a very strong connection between terror and islam, and yet people are spoon fed this idea that islam is somehow a "religion of peace" - and I just don't buy that

and after being released from the hospital, he was hit by a bus, lost a lot of what was left from his brain, spent a long time on ICU, declared unfit for prosecution, and never sent to prison or even trial

Man that's not a life one would like to live

@MechMK1 neither I... the problem is that not even Muslim is a terrorist, but it seems that every terrorist is a Muslim. I know a few Muslims, and there are some very violent sects among them... so I don't know what to do

letting things unchecked the violent sects get more and more freedom to kill... targetting them will create more radicals. banning them is going way too much overboard...

what to do is a question that really does not have a right answer

@ThoriumBR Of course not every muslim is a terrorist. It would be foolish to claim so

My solution is simple: Don't import more of them.

you don't need to import them... they will be smuggled in, like the assault rifle used on this attack

You know what happens to people who get smuggled here illegally? They get deported

Don't know where they're from? Jail them until they identify themselves

And if word of mouth goes back to the source countries that you should not go to Europe because they'll send you right back, then they'll stop coming

there's the issue: you can deport those you identify as illegals... but what about all those not detected? or those with forged papers?

a terrorist will know how to bypass most controls

@MechMK1 or they will send more bombs, rifles, anthrax, the like

I could give you a solution on how to deal with people identified as terrorists, but it'd give me 30, so let your imagination play

because "they hate us, let's hurt them"

Europe has to stop pretending the world is a nice place and everyone just wants peace and harmony. Because that's not true.

it's really not true anymore

It was never true

Fucking right

It used to be true past WWII, where all european nations were just tired of constant fight

Europe was destroyed, and we wanted to rebuild in peace and foster prosperity

and it worked for a while

The EU was forged in such conditions, and now it is forever stuck thinking this is how the world will always be

We're having the same problem with China. I read a great article about it a while back. For a long time everyone worked under the assumption that once China saw the benefits of the "global" economy and good trade relationships with everyone, they would stop being so expansionist and be content with increased wealth

Turns out some people will never be content with just having their own sandbox

Absolutely true

I believe China is behaving like Germany pre-WW2 and the world is doing the same

I would not call it pre-WWII Germany. Post-WWI Germany fits better

yes, post WW-I is more fitting... this year things began to change, but until last year China was free to do anything china wanted and nobody would say anything

The treaty of Versailles is what I consider one of the biggest reasons why the National Socialists rose to power.

that treaty shows why peace by force cannot be achieved... if you force all muslims out, it will be another failed attempt

I have to read more about the Irish Republican Army and their history

I also don't see a reason to have them invade us

We prosper more, so we're obligated to share? Fuck that shit!

@MechMK1 you don't, me neither, most of the world are as baffled as both of us, but down there, in some cave, some guy have a perfect explanation why the people of Vienna are the culprits for a bad thing that happened to them, and convinced some guys to avenge them...

They come here, then demand us to bow to their will, or else we'll be called Islamophobe. But I don't buy into that shit anymore. Yes, I am an Islamophobe. I think Islam is the biggest danger to Europe right now.

that's the economics of guerrilla war: 4 soldiers do way more damage than an army, paralyses the enemy, hurts the economy, the society, and the enemy cannot defend against it

you call to arms against them, you are an Islamophobe, you are war monger... you do nothing, you are weak while the country is ravaged... it's a lose-lose scenario

time to get my kid in school...

I'd rather be a war monger than a victim.

anyone would...

security is a trade-off, isn't it

It all depends on the threat model, but you always need to leave something out of the model. So carrying a gun on an airplane is part of the model, and you have scanners. But is stealing a tank truck full of gasoline part of the model yet? I wonder what happens if a terrorist shot the tank

If you wanted near-perfect security, you'd need near-perfect control over almost every situation. That's acceptable with computers, where you deal with symbols. But it's a problem to do the same with people, unless you want to live in a 1984 dystopia

security.stackexchange.com/questions/240376/…

This question is fucking WILD

Wow...

@ConorMancone It's just...wow

@reed if you shot a tank full of gasoline, pretty much nothing happens, besides spilling gasoline around

I believe this Muslim problem can only be solved by the Muslims. If the non-radicals make a concerted effort to bring the radicals to justice, name and shame the radical-leaning ones, and show them they had no support at all, and the Muslim community at large are more likely to help "the infidels"(aka, western governments) than them, it could lead to less radicalization

but I don't think that will ever happen

Hmm, I'm pretty sure in movies tanks do blow up when they shoot at them

@reed In movies, the good guys win

At least in most of them

@reed on the movies, they are either full of explosives, or computer-generated

Unless there's a spark igniting the gasoline's fumes. Then the gasoline burns. Maybe with a "whoosh" if a lot of fumes was present.

I'm not convinced, I'll have to investigate, sooner or later. Anyway, I have a problem, or maybe lots of related problems, like a can of worms. Simple stuff, basic stuff, yet I've never been able to find convincing answers. To sum up, it might all start when someone asks you to "do something to make a WordPress website more secure"

The website hasn't been updated in years. So you might think "ok, we need to update it". But will that really make it more secure? If it hasn't been hacked so far, it's only because no serious vulnerabilities have been discovered. As soon as one is found, the website will be hacked even if it was updated. Unless you update it regularly. But since serious CMS vulnerabilities are often exploited within hours of being patched (or even before the patch, as zero-days)...

security would really be improved if you updated the website all the time, every day or rather every hour. But you can't do that manually (how could you?), you'd need automation (automatic updates). But automatic updates don't allow thorough testing

so there's no way out

I would steer away from wordpress as much as possible...

you could, for example, use Wordpress as the editing platform, and admin side, but export the site as plain html and share that

if you need commenting, likes, sharing, you could use javascript client-side, as there are lots of solutions for that

so you could have a damn vulnerable wordpress app, use it as always, and still be secure

To be fair, wordpress isn't too bad these days (in terms of security). That being said, when I was at a company that managed some wordpress installations we always kept all the wordpress on its own server to isolate it in the event of a hack, and indeed, only our wordpress server ever got hacked

The trouble with wordpress isn't wordpress itself so much as the plugins, which are easy to install, come with no guarantees, and are typically written by people who know little about code and less about security.

that's the main issue. You can have a wordpress site without plugins, but when I hosted almost a hundred wordpress sites, every single one had a couple plugins installed.

I ran a script every day backing up all the files and exporting the database when they got defaced

The problem isn't WP at all, it's CMS's in general. Every CMS has recurrent security issues (and most are caused by extensions rather than the core). WP, Joomla, Drupal, Magento, etc., add whatever you want to the list. Of course the more popular it is, the more likely it is to get attacked

is phpnuke still a thing?

I started with that, back on college...

According to a quick google search, looks like it's totally abandoned

that's what I discovered too