The DMZ

David Freitag

00:00

@AviD Yup, and there's nothing in this area that provides paid internships for EE/ME/CE grads.

Simon

It depends in which country I wanna say.

David Freitag

Granted, I think their internships turn into paid positions after 4 or 6 months or something like that if they make the cut

Simon

Still dumb.

David Freitag

Each year they hire like 50 interns and cut upwards of 30 of them by the end

Simon

That's called slavery in my book.

AviD

00:00

@DavidFreitag watch the video.

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah but starting salary is $45/hr

So 6 months unpaid is worth it once you get your foot in the door

Simon

@DavidFreitag Sure that's a good salary but it doesn't justify 4-6 months of not getting paid.

David Freitag

@Simon They all have a second job

The very same jobs they were working in college

AviD

@DavidFreitag no its not.

sorry, my privilege went and shoved my foot in my mouth again.

David Freitag

$45 an hour is more than three times what I make now

Simon

00:02

What did you type? Damn it, I was looking away.

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah I was paying attention and even I missed it

Damned insufferable self-censoring tigger

Simon

I remember back in the days when Tigger was all about freedom of speech.

AviD

@DavidFreitag true, another good point. But sometimes its okay to take a pittance.

@Simon I was looking down on what could be considered a decent salary by some.

still below dovids market rate though

David Freitag

@AviD But like I said almost no companies are hiring engineers in this area. The only ones that do are huge multinational companies that do paid internships for pennies, and the ones that do unpaid internships for serious monies

AviD

do you live in Mad Men in the '60s?

David Freitag

00:05

@AviD Heh, it's kinda funny that you guys have so much faith in my abilities

Simon

@AviD o whoops

That's an easy mistake to make.

@DavidFreitag YOU'RE A MASTER NURD

YOU KNOW HARDWARE SHIT LIKE A HUGE NURD

AviD

@Simon wasnt a mistake. Just checked my privilege is all. Didnt wanna wreck myself.

Simon

o

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah well I know people who are in the same field as me who make me look like an infant in the corner drooling on himself

EE is part black magic, maths, skill, and encyclopedic knowledge

AviD

@DavidFreitag awww lookit 'im, sooo cute

Simon

00:09

@DavidFreitag We all had those kids studying with us.

Doesn't mean we're shite because of dem crazy ponies.

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah well it's not just a few people

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag I knew a company that did this in my hometown. They only hired interns, and offered people $10 an hour as a web dev.

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo I mean an unpaid internship is a great way of finding out who really wants to be an engineer

If you don't seriously want to be an engineer or you don't really know your shit, they don't want you anyway

Especially if you're working on a team that's contracting for Boeing or Lockheed Martin. You screw something up and planes fall out of the sky

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Many engineers get paid internships of around $7k per month in good areas :/

Simon

@MarkBuffalo That's very doubtful.

Mark Buffalo

00:13

The only places where this isn't true are where unscrupulous employers want to take advantage of you because there aren't many other options.

David Freitag

Yeah dude $7k is a lot of monies

Mark Buffalo

Yeah, actually, google it.

Simon

o pls

David Freitag

Yeah well this company in particular isn't taking advantage of the interns. They don't actually "work" they spend their time in training seminars and other various workshops so the company can gauge their knowledge and particular skills.

They don't usually stay 40 hours a week and the hours are flexible. It's kinda like post college verification

So on one hand it sucks that you're not getting paid, but on the other you aren't really working

Thomas Pornin

I just reverted an edit which purported to be a "simplification" of a sentence, and actually reversed the meaning.

Somehow there is no comment field for rollbacks

Simon

00:18

link pls

Thomas Pornin

security.stackexchange.com/posts/86738/revisions

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag And therefore aren't learning critical skills needed to succeed...?

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Wow that edit

@MarkBuffalo What part about training seminars didn't you read?

Mark Buffalo

That edit...

wtf?

Simon

Haha, yep.

Oh and the original answer is yours too, lulz.

AviD

00:19

@ThomasPornin but umm it also makes it less simplified.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Well I am ready to believe that the editor found the sentence difficult to understand, since he did not understand it at all.

Simon

You might wanna reword the sentence though, Thomas.

David Freitag

Whoever accepted that edit should be publicly ridiculed

Simon

@DavidFreitag Awkward!

David Freitag

@Simon Why it makes perfect sense...

AviD

00:20

@DavidFreitag IT WAS YOU

Simon

@DavidFreitag security.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/68228

AviD

actually it was @Ohnana.... Shame on you @Ohnana

David Freitag

@Ohnana WFT UWOTM8

@AviD Pls I have like 800 rep on this site

Oh, sorry, 1k

Simon

@DavidFreitag "does any good only" can get confusing for sure, especially to non-native English ponies.

lulz

AviD

cmon man, this is getting boring

Simon

00:22

It still makes me smile.

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah perhaps "does any good only" could be replaced with "helps"

AviD

@Simon happy?

Simon

COME ON

NOW THAT'S ABUSE

AviD

heh lil bit

its educational

David Freitag

@Simon Is that a euphemism?

Simon

00:23

@DavidFreitag Ask ovid.

AviD

I dont know anything about it.

David Freitag

@AviD I don't want to hear about what @Simon does with a pony, thank you.

AviD

8 secs ago, by AviD

I dont know anything about it.

David Freitag

@AviD Yeah sure I bet you video taped the whole thing you weirdo

Simon

wot

AviD

00:25

Clerks 2 - Kinky Kelly (donkey scene) HD 720p

►

you do NOT want to watch that.

definitely NSFW

David Freitag

@AviD Hahaha I fucking love that movie

AviD

but not as bad as you might imagine

Simon

I was about to say something super inappropriate about that pony but I decided that it was probably better to not to.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon I am convinced that native English speakers can get confused over plain English sentences as well.

David Freitag

@Simon Eh, roro would edit it anyway

Simon

00:26

@ThomasPornin Of course.

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Nah, sometimes some of us end sentences with the wrong potato.

Simon

@DavidFreitag roro?

There's no active roro around here.

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah roro

@Simon He'd get around to it.

Like he did to the pinned post of mine

Like he's going to do to the pinned post of yours

AviD

@RoryAlsop is gonna pin you to the post?

Simon

pin me roro

@ThomasPornin Are you still in town?

Thomas Pornin

00:28

@Simon You mean Montreal ?

Simon

Ya

Thomas Pornin

No, I was there just on Monday and Tuesday

Simon

Ah.

Do you play pool?

Thomas Pornin

You mean that kind of billiard with holes ?

Simon

Yeah that thing.

Thomas Pornin

00:29

Well no, I don't play pool.

I am aware of the underlying physical principles, but I don't practice.

Simon

That would have been a fun activity if you had free time the next time you were here.

Thomas Pornin

Eh. Last time I went to Montreal, you hid in a cave or something.

Fearing that I would eviscerate you.

David Freitag

@Simon what a pansy

Simon

@ThomasPornin I could try to channel my inner courageous man and invite you on a date next time.

David Freitag

Should have had some dignity and been eviscerated

Thomas Pornin

00:31

@DavidFreitag Your dignity or your bowels, you have to choose.

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Who needs bowels anyway.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon I am supposed to come to Montreal regularly, but usually I won't spend the night there. I'll warn you if this happens again.

Simon

Sure.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Bowels are necessary to make some boudin.

David Freitag

imgur.com/gallery/s3pNE

Probably NSFW, but funny as shit

Simon

00:33

Downtown is always a damn pain to navigate through, I try to avoid it as much as I can and park at a metro station when possible.

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Yeah but presumably I wouldn't be making boudin with my bowels.

Simon

@ThomasPornin Did they offer you a parking spot when you were here?

Thomas Pornin

@Simon It would have been inappropriate since I did not came with a car.

Simon

@ThomasPornin You rode the bus?

Thomas Pornin

@Simon This time I went with a colleague, but, in general, I take the bus.

Desjardins has a special bus just for them.

With free food.

Simon

00:37

Damn, nice. So it goes straight to Montréal?

Thomas Pornin

Yes. Straight from Lévis to Montréal.

(And another in the other direction)

Simon

That's good then, absolutely no reason to not take it.

Thomas Pornin

It is even good for security.

Simon

How so?

Thomas Pornin

Because it allows talking about job related subjects without being overheard by external people.

Simon

00:39

Ahhh.

Thomas Pornin

This can matter a lot when working in a bank.

Simon

Indeed.

Thomas Pornin

But then this means that we are talking about information security in the DMZ, which is probably inappropriate.

Simon

Oh yeah, my bad, let's talk about something that suits the chat better.

Like, uh, something.

@MarkBuffalo Post a dumb link like you always do, son.

Mark Buffalo

Okay, let me find one.

Simon

00:47

Asshole.

Mark Buffalo

<3

Simon

@ThomasPornin If you can manage to time it somehow, the first Tuesday of every month, there's an iOS dev meetup with usually 2 talks given during the evening which I attend with a mate.

It happens at McKibbin's so of course there's beer available.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin I like this consideration. Your tinfoil hattery is showing. JOIN US!

Simon

@MarkBuffalo It's the biggest bank here and everyone knows it so it's not really tinfoil hattery at this point.

Mark Buffalo

Tinfoil hattery is not always wrong.

In fact, it's often the result of considering almost every possible angle.

It only becomes a problem when you allow it to consume you, and prevent you from functioning normally.

David Freitag

00:53

@ThomasPornin It's not inappropriate, it's just not common.

Mark Buffalo

26

Q: Can A Powered Down Cell Phone be Turned On Remotely?

I know this is tin-foil hat fodder, but at least one judicial opinion (http://www.politechbot.com/docs/fbi.ardito.roving.bug.opinion.120106.txt) referenced a bug that could track/listen in on the subject "whether the phone was powered on or off," although that may have been a judge misinterpretin...

Someone should make a thread asking how you can tell if your phone is affected by that

If you do, it will probably put you on reptrain

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo It is always wrong because tin foil is not made of tin. It is aluminium.

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Nah I ordered a roll of the real stuff from China and I've been dolling out the DMZ's fix pretty regularly

Mark Buffalo

Yes, but "tinfoil hat" sounds funnier than "aluminum foil hat."

David Freitag

01:11

122

A: Is the butterfly effect real?

Does the flap of a butterfly's wing in Brazil set off a tornado in Texas? This was the whimsical question Edward Lorenz posed in his 1972 address to the 139th meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. Some mistakenly think the answer to that question is "yes." (Othe...

Fantastic answer.

Ohnana

@ThomasPornin My apologies. I found the original sentence a bit clumsy. This is why the rollback button was created, though

it sounded good at the time

David Freitag

@Ohnana Yeah yeah and we all have 20/20 hindsight

Ohnana

i mean, i spent more time than usual scrutinizing it because it was complicated

David Freitag

Seriously?

Ohnana

that one stood out because the grammar confused me, and usually the technical content is over my head

David Freitag

01:14

Must have been some serious confusion... Perhaps next time if you're not sure you probably shouldn't accept.

Mark Buffalo

I've had to decline to moderate a lot of posts because of my lack of technical understanding of the topic

A lot of times, the edits confuse me...

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag the edited version sounded clearer in terms of structure. unfortunately it also killed the meaning in the process

AviD

@Ohnana was more convoluted, ergo less clearer

David Freitag

@AviD Clever is never a good idea

AviD

@Ohnana wait wait - you're a bit clumsy

David Freitag

01:27

> I don't need a color organ

Man I wish my organ was colorful.

Ohnana

01:40

@AviD 4/10 keep practicing

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo did you just endorse me for 5 random things on Linkedin? I have no idea what any of those things even are.

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Yes, I did. But they aren't random: they're things you know about, and we've talked about.

David Freitag

right...

Mark Buffalo

Would you like me to remove them?

David Freitag

FFS linkedin should have skill wikis

@MarkBuffalo Oh I see you endorsed me for a bunch of things but linkedin only told me about the ones I don't already have listed

Thomas Pornin

01:49

@DavidFreitag You must know them enough to make @MarkBuffalo believe you master them. That still counts as "skills".

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Yeah I can see going over that in an interview. "So I see you're endorsed for ${skill} on linkedin" Me: "Yeah I have no idea what that is"

Or "Yeah I was endorsed by a friend of mine. He says I'm great at it, but I have no idea what ${skill} even is"

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Done properly, that can mark you points in an interview.

Mark Buffalo

Yeah, you don't even have those skills listed

That's weird...

Thomas Pornin

"They say I am good at crypto but I don't see why, it is just easy if you mind the details."

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo It will only list them if I tell it to

Mark Buffalo

01:53

do not list

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo I wasn't planning on it. At least not until you explain what the hell they mean

Mark Buffalo

Well, I thought they were ones I already clicked "Endorse" for. So I clicked the "Endorse" group

Then I saw others pop up again... and I'm like "Wait, what? Those aren't listed..."

I clicked the endorse group because it usually shows up on a page, even after I endorse them manually (which I always do)

and clicking "endorse" doesn't change already-endorsed items; it just gets rid of the annoying popup

David Freitag

Specifically the ones I don't know are: 5S, Continuous Improvement, Lean Manufacturing, and Root Cause Analysis

Mark Buffalo

02:10

Someone advocating input sanitation on s/e

answer is accepted...

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Two more? Don't know those either

Mark Buffalo

9

Q: White list or black list sanitation for international input?

There seem to be so many ways to create nefarious input that white-listing what input is good usually feels like the safer, simpler option. For instance, one can fairly easily craft a white list regex that includes good things [a-zA-Z0-9], but this seems to fall apart quickly when considering ...

international whitelist unicode validation

accepted answer is giving me heart palpitations

David Freitag

02:31

When copy and pasting text carries over the style, making my text bold or italic, instead of respectable plain text. https://t.co/Dm5jVZApyV

Tweeted by travisgoodspeed on January 25, 2016 at 3:21 PM

TildalWave

@MarkBuffalo and its author insists in the comments, doesn't even get it

I'd invoke security monkeys

Simon

Markus, you've got commented on a 4 years and half answer.

Mark Buffalo

"it's hard to validate names correctly to prevent SQL injection."

:|

TildalWave

you know, it's possible to write to a database without SQL

people too often forget that

Mark Buffalo

Yeah, I know

TildalWave

02:46

and if you really have to, you can check for records affected before you commit

that accepted answer is awful also from operational standpoint, he's actually suggesting to use masks based on server locale for a question asking about supporting international inputs?

Mark Buffalo

Yeah

TildalWave

well that's a -1 from me then

and we should enroll our little Bobby tables into every program he attended

Mark Buffalo

rofl

David Freitag

tindie.com/products/RobG/msp430-nixie-clock-kit

tindie.com/products/celzey11/iv-9-numitron-tube-clock-/…

Anyone looking to buy a nixie clock ^

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag s/looking to buy a nixie clock/who wants to get invited to the white house

David Freitag

03:01

https://t.co/jnqOv65AtW

Tweeted by scanlime on January 28, 2016 at 5:38 PM

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag I too have the same problem with parentheses.

@TildalWave Now he's stating that he's published several books, so he "knows what he's talking about." Guy says it's hard to use input validation to protect against SQL injection...

David Freitag

Hnnnnnng

TildalWave

Sometimes it makes sense to alert the user to an error (validaye), like removing the apostrophe from a name. Sometimes it makes sense to silently correct (sanitize) the input, like the trailing space on a login page. It depends on the audience and application. — dannysauer 20 mins ago

Jonathan Musso

Wat is that ^

TildalWave

exactly :)

David Freitag

03:06

@JonathanMusso Mazda concept car

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Hnnnnnnnnng

David Freitag

I would give my left testicle to have that car. And that one is my favorite.

Mark Buffalo

"The author" has contributed to multiple published books on database development as well as written quite a bit of open source and commercial software that uses prepared statements. He is quite familiar with how prepared statements work, which is irrelevant to the question as asked. — dannysauer 3 mins ago

Jonathan Musso

@DavidFreitag interesting

David Freitag

Oracle is finally killing, Java. Rest in hell, Java. http://gizmo.do/EI1X4Wv https://t.co/yh4dqBJkQT

Tweeted by Gizmodo on January 28, 2016 at 3:42 PM

cc:\ @MarkBuffalo

TildalWave

03:07

@MarkBuffalo that just goes to prove that they'll publish anything these days

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Good, but that's the dumb browser plugin. Java is still very valid for web dev, backend, embedded systems, etc.

David Freitag

@JonathanMusso topgear.com/car-news/concept/…

Mark Buffalo

I hope I don't come across like a dick in that thread. I am just very worried about his defense of input sanitation, stripping apostrophes, etc.

Jonathan Musso

@DavidFreitag awesome, thank you

David Freitag

@JonathanMusso TBH most of those don't look that great

Mark Buffalo

03:08

I'm sure he's very smart and good at what he does... but this security thing doesn't seem like it's his thing.

David Freitag

The Mazda Shinari is damn sexy

Journeyman Geek

paint it black and that's a batmobile

David Freitag

TildalWave

@MarkBuffalo I actually gave him a -1 not because of his take on sanitization et al., but because he doesn't actually give a reasonable answer to the question as it was asked

Jonathan Musso

lol

David Freitag

03:10

@JonathanMusso Hahahaha

I like the Shinari because it looks eerily similar to my car.

Mark Buffalo

@TildalWave His suggestion also doesn't work for Chinese characters. I tested it. Nothing tested true, except a few random English letters.

Jonathan Musso

Ah yes, looks a similar nose but pulled down

TildalWave

@JonathanMusso it's kinda cute... for a hearse wagon :)

David Freitag

@JonathanMusso And those sexy rear-view mirrors

and the headlights

hnnng

TildalWave

now this is properly cute

Mark Buffalo

03:14

@TildalWave Lulz. Guy downvoted out of spite

David Freitag

@TildalWave I... I think we have different views on "cute"

Jonathan Musso

@TildalWave now that's my style

TildalWave

@MarkBuffalo dude, move on... think positive, as in the more people take his advice, the larger our paychecks

Jonathan Musso

chop the roof on that, remove a full pillar!

David Freitag

@JonathanMusso Yeah then fill it with shag pile and a water bed

Mark Buffalo

03:17

@TildalWave I just don't like blatantly incorrect security practices. Alright, I'll move on. I've said my piece.

Jonathan Musso

@DavidFreitag rofl. well there certainly is enough room

David Freitag

I could totally live in a hearse

Mark Buffalo

It's actually a nice looking car

David Freitag

https://t.co/la9KYAbJrN

Tweeted by 8BitCreepyPasta on January 29, 2016 at 3:07 AM

StackExchange

05:14

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AviD

08:25

@MarkBuffalo why? it happens to be completely correct.

your answer does add some good points, but several points I don't agree with.

TildalWave

09:22

@AviD dude, it suggests that he uses server locale to support international, multiple locale and possibly MIME types inputs, and worse still to constrain input to [0..9,a..Z]... that at the minimum invokes your security at expense of usability rule, if not getting OP fired for incompetence because he actually accepted that even tho he should have known it isn't a reasonable answer to the question

if you don't know what characters are valid as input in some field, you don't start securing it by disallowing most of them

sure, it'll be safe... to the point that nobody will use it

TildalWave

09:44

one thing that's missing there, tho it wasn't really asked about, is that certain encoding like into HTML won't be good for length constraint validation, so fixed-bit per character encoding should be used

TildalWave

10:07

Where is everyone?

M'vy

10:19

not here

Matthew

I'm here. Sort of

Rоry McCune

11:18

me too, kind of

TildalWave

RIP Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane

so many great ones left us this January...

AviD

@TildalWave I was off cooking my friday chulent ;-)

Cholent

Cholent (Yiddish: טשאָלנט, tsholnt or tshoolnt) or Hamin (Hebrew: חמין‎) is a traditional Jewish stew. It is usually simmered overnight for 12 hours or more, and eaten for lunch on Shabbat (the Sabbath). Cholent was developed over the centuries to conform with Jewish laws that prohibit cooking on the Sabbath. The pot is brought to a boil on Friday before the Sabbath begins, and kept on a blech or hotplate, or placed in a slow oven or electric slow cooker, until the following day. There are many variations of the dish, which is standard in both the Ashkenazi and Sephardi kitchens. The basic ...

TildalWave

shit that reminds me that I promised that recipe to @DavidFreitag

Rоry McCune

11:49

well that's a weight off my mind :)

passed my CCT exam

Rory Alsop

Yay - well done

And I have a weight off my mind - successfully got to London without crashing :-)

So it's a good Friday

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop \o/ yeah it's been extremely windy over here today (keep expecting the power to go) so not a day I'd want to be in a plane, I think

Rory Alsop

Unless you really like planes...

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop and that nice rollercoaster feeling you get with heavy turbulence

Rory Alsop

It did remind me of flying round skerries at an altitude of about 25 feet to watch seals with my dad when I was little

Rоry McCune

11:56

@RoryAlsop except with rather more large buildings to potentially get too close to!

Rory Alsop

Actually we were well away from buildings, it was the water and ground that was more of a worry

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop yeah remembering the runways at city, there's not a huge amount of leeway at the sides for gusts...

AviD

@RоryMcCune yay congrats!

Rоry McCune

"in the case of a landing on water, your lifejacket can be found underneath your seat"

@AviD s'a relief :) means I get another 3 years before doing that again

Rory Alsop

In the case of landing on water, try not to drown...

AviD

12:01

hahaha I have to go back to watching the Office (yes US version is just fine...) dorkly.com/post/77092/ranking-the-office-pranks

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop please take the time to identify the exit door nearest you , bearing in mind that you might need to climb over slow people to get to it

AviD

bookmarked for if/when I go back to working in one...

Simon

12:21

It's F... Fr... Friiiiii... FRIDAY!

Time to get naked and run around the office.

AviD

@Simon Friday, Friday, Time to get down on Friday, everybody's waiting for the weekend

Friday - Rebecca Black - Official Music Video

►

Simon

pls ovid

She got enough hate, she doesn't need mine.

AviD

I think RebeccaRolled should be more of a thing than RickRolled.

Simon

Naaah, at least Rick Astley's song is not completely retarded.

Journeyman Geek

Nirvana vs Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give Your Teen Spirit up

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2

@AviD I seem to recall the same producer made something even worse

AviD

12:25

@Simon exactly

its a worse prank to Friday someone

@JourneymanGeek hehe y'all liking that now

Journeyman Geek

lol

AviD

I really cant get over how good that is - it is really a fantastic edit job

Journeyman Geek

I should listen to some music, but I've got a bout of skin allergies so I don't want to use the good headphones :(

(Over the ear, so they're a little bit incomfortable in my current state. Love em to bits otherwise

Matthew

Speakers?

Earbuds?

Bone conduction?

Simon

Telepathy?

Journeyman Geek

12:33

Earbuds

I have decent ones, (Gen 2 xiomi pistons. Prolly one of the best cheapish headphones there are)

Not the same oomph as my proper cans...

and can't use my speakers, my dog gets annoyed at anything but classical

Mark Buffalo

@RоryMcCune grats

@AviD blanket-rejecting is a lot of work from a usability, maintability, and integrity standpoint. he pushes for input sanitation (removing apostrophes for example)

also, blanket-rejecting/accepting entire unicode sets doesn't work for many ideopgraphic collections

almost all unicode is fine going into a column where it can be accepted. you just need correct input validation and prepared statements with output sanitation. If you can show me a result where this becomes a security issue, I'd like to see it.

as for regex, yeah, it's going to crap the bed in python, probably

Matthew

@JourneymanGeek Ah, you need to get your dog some headphones and an iPod full of classical music. Then you can choose the speaker tunes!

Journeyman Geek

@Matthew or leave him with my mom ;p

But he likes me, just not my taste in music.

Matthew

Then he'll love you with his own iPod. Dogs love iPods

(probably)

Journeyman Geek

lol

naw, he'd still glare at me. ;p

AviD

12:48

@MarkBuffalo oh was the question specifically python? didnt notice that.

re validation / sanitization - you are right, those are different things. I assumed the OP was speaking from ignorance, but the answer there didnt specifically mention it. you specifically do call that out, though (correctly ofc)

@MarkBuffalo you definitely have a lot more experience than I do with eg Chinese, which is among the more difiicult to handle for this. So I could be wrong, but in general you still DO want to restrict to specific character classes, regardless of the codepage.

I must have missed where he says to remove the quotes, vs block them...

Simon

vs block them...

I'm like the annoying little brother who repeats what you just said.

AviD

damn you

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