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12:25 AM
@ManishEarth Yes, he keeps referencing it
 
> I summarized this feature elsewhere as asking the YouPorn admins to help with my parenting, to ask the internet to guess my moral boundaries.
Good way of putting it.
 
 
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1:30 AM
@ManishEarth Peter is more than Scottish, he speaks Glaswegian.
@RoryAlsop I hear that happens as you get older.
 
1:42 AM
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A: Could a third party access my system - particularly browsing history?

Jannifer skyOh, I think your question is not very clearly, but there are some points which may help you. First, it is quite common to put some malicious files on your machine by email attachment. Second, as for your concerning about your colleague accesses your computer, yes, there is software like Micro Key...

This Micro Keylogger spam is getting on my tits already. Random generic BS just to "subtly" spin a spammy link. @Simon thanks for suggested edit, but I see no point in it. It's not a very useful post even if the link was removed. Just flag as spam.
 
@TildalWave What about processed meat on your breasts?
 
@DavidFreitag damn, didn't see this one coming
 
@TildalWave No, I'm seriously concerned - you're not supposed to play with your food
 
@DavidFreitag Spam? !Food!? Those things are so unappetizing I wouldn't give it to my dog
 
@TildalWave Actually spam cooked with rice and some vegetables is quite nice.
Cube up the spam and put everything into a wok.
 
1:55 AM
man those cans are salted so much so you don't taste that the meat you're eating has been dead for 20 years
 
That's what the rice and usually broccoli is for. It distributes the salt :b
 
2:31 AM
@DavidFreitag Broccoli is disgusting.
 
@TerryChia More for me.
 
Any Python guys know the answer to this?
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Q: Is there a way to sort by a second key in the event that the first key is equal?

Terry ChiaLet's say I have the following list. foo = [["A", 1], ["B", 2], ["C", 1]] I want to sort by the second element in the list, so I run the following. foo.sort(key=lambda i: i[1]) Now, foo has the following order. [['A', 1], ['C', 1], ['B', 2]] Is there a good way to sort by the first eleme...

/cc @Lucas.
 
2:57 AM
security.stackexchange.com/questions/66100/… <- Feel like something needs to be done about the comment flooding, especially with a new member, anything left to do, or just let them fill this page with "chat"?
 
Thanks for the answer! But it looks like Bren answered first so I'll be accepting his. Upvoted anyway. :) — Terry Chia 8 mins ago
actually, that's a bad argument, considering you said that to someone that was 15 seconds faster :P
 
@TildalWave Heh, really? Bren's answer showed up first for me.
 
@TerryChia well the question is about sorting, just wanted to sort that out :P
the accepted answer is still more detailed
 
3:21 AM
@TidalWave - Thanks. I feel like he is about to post yet another broad based question, which will attract lots of "discussion" responses at way to generic a level. We'll see, maybe he'll read the help center.
 
3:45 AM
@TildalWave I see, I'll be flagging the next ones if I see 'em.
 
4:13 AM
Finally taking RDP for a spin on my Windows Phone. It's... interesting. Definitely not something I hope to need often.
 
4:30 AM
Damn nice writeup for people interested in exploit writing: googleprojectzero.blogspot.sg/2014/08/…
 
 
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6:16 AM
@AviD you saying I'm older than Doctor Who now?
That was funny though - now he is Scottish, he can really complain.
 
7:04 AM
@drat I've read the news today, oh boy... A rocket hit an Israeli house where the family escaped death by hiding right on time in that shelter on 40th floor. They weren't on 40th floor, but the utility is all the same. Modern warfare is not a B52 carpet bombing, it's crude rockets that can be stopped by a thick enough wall. Singapore is neighboring Muslim countries, you do the math. — littleadv 20 mins ago
 
@LucasKauffman We have a small bomb shelter in every house, not just condos.
People usually use them for storage nowadays.
 
yea but I don't see the point though
@TerryChia last time singapore was invaded was during the Japanese war
 
@LucasKauffman: eh, its part of a wider aspect of social engineering ;p
 
@LucasKauffman Yeah, but we are surrounded by countries that were not so friendly to us not too long ago.
 
@TerryChia Indonesia?
 
7:13 AM
@LucasKauffman Yep.
 
yeah
and malaysia and us are like squabbling siblings ;p
 
Who wants to review some Python code?
Could use some comments on a project of mine: github.com/Ayrx/microauth
looks at @LucasKauffman
 
"Make PostgreSQL the default database" ---> "Not hipster enough"
 
@LucasKauffman I was going to use a NoSQL db but you lose out on some nice stuff like unique constraints.
Plus you can't really beat SQLAlchemy when it comes to making life simple when working with DBs.
 
is this your real email: terrycwk1994@gmail.com?
 
7:20 AM
@LucasKauffman Yup.
 
@TerryChia gonna leave it in therE?
might get indexed and all
 
@LucasKauffman Not a problem really. I have it everywhere. It's in the commit logs even.
Gmail's spam filters are pretty damn good.
(I'm looking for comments on the API design mostly)
 
@RoryAlsop heh, no, I was saying that you are an expert on Dr.Who.
@Iszi any other issues, besides the size?
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@TerryChia or lairs offices.
 
@AviD The ones we have are waaaaay too small to use as offices. It's mostly apartments buildings in Singapore.
@AviD Hehehehe.
 
8:06 AM
@TerryChia: and newer ones. I live in one of those old point blocks, and our nearest bomb shelter is an MRT station
 
8:18 AM
We had a bombshelter but just used it for stocking stuff
 
@LucasKauffman how much room did you need for all your stockings??
 
@AviD About half the size of your mom.
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you wear a lotta stockings.
 
... On the one hand I want to make a joke about @LucasKauffman wearing stockings ... On the other, there's also a "huge trophy collection" joke in there.
I'M CONFLICTED.
 
nice
translate es: up to the view, baby
 
8:26 AM
hasta la vista, baby
 
hahahahahahaha
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah, yeah, just steal from you-know-where like that.
 
that one is fine and you know it :-)
it made me smile
 
translate es: screw you guys, I'm going home
 
tornillo chicos, me voy a casa
 
8:27 AM
translate es: #simon
 
#simon
 
@RoryAlsop GIVE ATTRIBUTION, YOU PLAGIARIZER!
 
> THIS IS OUR ARMY! IF YOU WISH TO JOIN IT, YOU GIVE ATTRIBUTION!
 
@FEichinger attribution: Stack Translate Bot :-)
and Arnie
 
BRB suspending @LucasKauffman.
 
8:33 AM
okay, Imma gonn' kick the stack bot soon
 
@FEichinger pls no :3
 
@AviD folks be over it soon
it was the same in TL
 
@RoryAlsop folks be bleedin in the street soon
 
that first hour or so was very silly
 
This is the second room in two days where there is some translation frenzy going on.
 
8:34 AM
and then everyone got bored
 
@Arperum blame me - I brung the Arnie quote here from TL
 
@RoryAlsop yeah well them TL'ers are just a bunch of immature children, arent they ;-)
 
@AviD all of them, yes
 
@RoryAlsop Yesterday it was The Bridge.
 
@FEichinger now why the hell would you go and invite me to that?
Do you have any idea what I could do to you?
 
@AviD Automatically.
Because move.
 
All your ancestors and your entire bloodline will never have existed.
 
... I'd be fine with that, you know.
 
I don't like @FEichinger with a blue name. I'll have to cut down on the PHP jokes now. :(
 
8:39 AM
@TerryChia Psh, don't worry about that.
 
@TerryChia He knows php is a joke anyway.
 
Hmm, actually I fear @FEichinger with a blue name. Who knows what havoc @kalina can wreck now.
 
@TerryChia None.
 
The DMZ must have one of the highest moderator concentration of all the SE chat rooms.
 
She gets a quicker route to unsuspending from flags, but that's about it.
Anything else, I'm not touching with a ten foot pole.
 
8:43 AM
How many blue names are regulars in here...
 
@TerryChia @AJHenderson joked about kicking me out of the DMZ because of it, even!
 
@TerryChia most of the blue names are irregulars
 
There are 852 messages containing the word "fuck" in the DMZ
 
@LucasKauffman is that good or bad?
need comparative stats from other chat rooms
 
@LucasKauffman Search disagrees: chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=fuck&room=151
Make a word cloud!
 
8:44 AM
@LucasKauffman 853
 
heh
 
@TerryChia We already had a word cloud!
We had multiple, even.
 
@FEichinger Oh right!
 
maybe it hasn't indexed everything yet then
 
The star wall was spammed with them at one point.
 
8:45 AM
Yep. I demonstrated I could automate the fire list if I wanted to.
 
Actually, someone generate a word cloud now. I wonder if #simon will show up on it.
 
I wonder how much work it would be to scrape the entire transcript ...
And how long it takes for a rate limit to kick in.
 
@FEichinger I think @LucasKauffman is pulling it into elasticsearch?
 
@FEichinger None
I just did it
 
9:07 AM
I can publish the code if you want to
it's a bit dirty but should work on every chatroom
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@LucasKauffman Are you signing up for online dating?
 
9:27 AM
morning
also: back to bed
 
also: kitchen for coffee
hmm
 
no
 
also: back to bed
hmm.
 
I spent the entire weekend at a LAN, sat in the counterstrike section, playing DOTA2
 
this also: notation for the transportation bot doesnt seem to be working for me
 
9:34 AM
there are many things wrong with that statement
 
@AviD translate: also
 
also
 
first of all: counterstrike players are some of the ugliest smelliest cretinous individuals I've ever met
wtf
@FEichinger why are you blue
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@kalina cuz he misses you
 
what a disaster in the making
 
9:35 AM
@kalina Because you were gone for a month and have missed a lot, young lady!
But, yeh, I'm pro tem on Moderators.
That is a disaster in the making.
 
I haven't missed all that much
 
@AviD hahaha!
 
my bank balance passed 6 figures this month
I've been in a state ever since
 
@AviD ... That was low. Even for you.
 
@FEichinger heh. not really, no.
 
9:37 AM
somehow DOTA2 becomes a little less boring when you're drinking shots
 
Psh. Alcoholic.
 
yes, you could say that
 
Hypocrite.
 
shrug
right well, lockdown starts in 2 hours, best get ready
 
9:57 AM
@kalina s/DOTA2/everything :-)
@FEichinger heh heh
anyone want to link this guy to some open source vulns ... I'm in meeting so can't properly:
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Q: How secure is it to use an open-source software

UlkomaIs it possible for the developer of an open-source software to hide a backdoor without getting caught? Obviously open-source is superior to close-source when it comes to transparency, also I am aware of the fact that open-source does not necessarily means 0-day-free (if there is such software) b...

maybe OpenSSL...
 
@RoryAlsop What's the point really ? Either he's missing a google search or he can't understand the meaning of the result he gets. in either case, i can't see any value in that question for others
o/ BTW
 
I was thinking about the super obvious heartbleed.
 
He wants backdoors, not 0-days
 
Blah. I am not a security expert. I dabble at best.
 
Doesn't matter, really. There is little value in this question and next to 0 in any potential answers: every incident is unique and you can't really draw generalities from them. At best, statistics (lies, damn lies and...)
 
10:09 AM
@Stephane No worries - feel free to flag/comment/downvote. I'll get to it after meeting
 
@RoryAlsop Way ahead of you ;)
Have fun in your meeting
 
10:45 AM
HERGLBLERGBLERGL
erm, I mean hello.
 
waves
 
I wonder if the comp. is blocking ssh & telnet connection to my ec2 instance is there a way to get over that blockage ?
I assume firewall does the block
 
you're asking in the wrong place, really. it's not really a security question.
but maybe.
 
somehow it's security...in away or another
 
10:52 AM
not really. It's an infrastructure config issue.
but the answer is "yes, a firewall could be blocking it, if you've configured one"
 
can I bypass it,then?
 
probably not.
 
I got to work on my instance
:'(
 
but surely if you turned the firewall on on your instance, then you've got access to it via another method?
I've not used EC2 before, but most stuff like that has direct KVM/VNC style access via the web management portal?
 
what about the firewall in my org.?
 
10:55 AM
oh, well no idea. ask your sysadmin.
 
Thanx
 
@FEichinger Dammit you! For some reason I keep magically rejoining your Make Another Bin room. I've left it at least ten times already. Do you have some magic up your sleeve to properly get me kicked out of that room?
 
11:10 AM
@Polynomial I don't see a question in that one.
 
@RoryAlsop Good point, I didn't read it in enough detail to spot that issue.
my bad ;]
 
@Polynomial How's things anyway
 
@RoryAlsop pretty damn good. off to EMF Camp on Thursday night, 44CON soon too :)
how 'bout you?
 
@Polynomial working hard. Preparing for a Nottingham gig this Saturday, then headlining a rock festival next Saturday. The usual :-)
 
@RoryAlsop Hah, nice one in Notts, which venue?
Google-Fu says The Maze
 
11:18 AM
@Polynomial The Maze. Not sure where that is, or what it is like, but looking forward to it anyway
 
never been there.
 
@Arperum That should've worked. :P
 
right, imma go munch down some chili. bbl.
 
@FEichinger I'm no longer in there, so that's good, we'll see if it lasts.
 
@Arperum You won't be able to enter it any more. I just made it sec.SE mods only. ;)
 
11:21 AM
@FEichinger Yea, that should work. I don't even have a sec.se account, let alone that I'm a mod.
 
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Q: Found a way to crack AES-128, what now?

privateI have just found a way to crack AES-128 in a reasonable time (1-2 days). How do I publish and prove this? I remember reading about lots of people who cracked DES and other ciphers but how did they publish their work?

Lmao.
"Congratulations. Sell your solution to NSA and retire to a nice beach somewhere."
 
@TerryChia What makes you think the NSA was not already aware of his method?
 
11:46 AM
@LucasKauffman Well, then he can retire to a nice river somewhere. Close enough.
 
oh, guys - this has the potential to end badly!
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Q: Feedback requested: Runnable code snippets in questions and answers

HaneyToday we're proposing a new feature to the Meta Stack Overflow community: Stack Snippets. What Do Stack Snippets Do? Stack Snippets make code blocks runnable. Here's an example: alert("You can even do alerts"); .hello { font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.5em; } <div class="hello">Stack...

 
@RoryAlsop Why?
 
12:01 PM
@TerryChia running untrusted code. Already some examples of malicious code... read the comments
 
@RoryAlsop Sandboxing the code is not an impossible task.
Also, I mentioned this feature in chat a few weeks ago.
Aug 7 at 9:22, by Terry Chia
Actually, how cool would it be if StackOverflow supports REPL for common languages?
 
"how cool would it be if stackoverflow just tried to compile all the submitted code and run it on their serverS?
 
@LucasKauffman In a sandbox? Very cool.
 
@LucasKauffman hahahahahahaha
 
@TerryChia Yes, because sandboxes never fail ;)
 
12:18 PM
@LucasKauffman There are tons of online iDEs that run arbitrary code in a sandbox. It's not a new thing.
 
@TerryChia doesn't mean its not a stupid thing.
 
They even mentioned they are running the code on a separate server.
 
@TerryChia oooo "separate servers", wwwooowww
 
@AviD Go break the sandbox then if it's so easy.
 
This is, umm.... I am thinking that... hmm, I admit that I am not 100% positive, but I am pretty sure, yup, pretty sure that this is the dumbest decision SEI ever made.
@TerryChia you don't understand. They are basing that on a specific threat model - "only thing that matters is SE accounts".
nm, I dont have time to get into this now. I am several weeks behind schedule.
 
12:23 PM
Most REPL environments are pretty tight.
 
@AviD What can happen if they are executing the code in a sandbox, in a locked down VM/server?
 
@StackExchange You what now?
 
@StackExchange Are you drunk?
 
@TerryChia It appears to be.
I like how it links messages without replies, as well.
 
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug!
 
12:25 PM
:)
 
maybe if we modflag it hard enough it will get locked out.
@TerryChia bug, or hack...? ;-)
 
wat the...
 
Silence is golden
 
Bot is happening on Skeptics.SE too :-( I assume others.
 
@AviD Bug.
 
12:32 PM
buggeh
 
in The Bridge, 6 mins ago, by Marc Gravell
shit; error
 
Looks like someone killed the bot. Finally.
 
haha
I like the use of the semicolon there. Eloquence at its peak.
 
Shoo!
Goddammit too many blue names in here.
 
@Undo well, I, for one, welcome our new bot overmods.
 
12:33 PM
@TerryChia Racist!
bots coming in here taking all of our comment space
 
@Polynomial Modcist?
 
should go back to the ethereal cloud they came from!
 
Translate ded.
 
@Polynomial Nice to see you around more recently.
 
oo, looks like all my modflagging really killed the bot!
now I have to try this on a human mod.
 
12:35 PM
o.o
 
@TerryChia Yeah, various things colluded to make my presence less felt.
But now I'm back to flag posts and chew bubblegum.
 
@AviD Oh lol. I just realized -2 has a flag history.
 
@AviD @FEichinger? Although I'm not sure if PHP developers can be considered human.
 
Best. Day. Ever.
 
now I have to try this on a human mod.
 
12:37 PM
@TerryChia I'm certainly not human, and I've been writing PHP all day.
 
@Polynomial and you're all out of posts?
 
@AviD hehe :P
 
(u'Lucas Kauffman', 46), (u'Polynomial', 63), (u'Adnan', 81), (u'Terry Chia', 85), (u'Scott Pack', 104), (u'Simon', 225)]
 
@LucasKauffman Context?
 
@TerryChia no, IOActive. (heuheuheu)
that joke only works if you're aware of the names of UK security companies.
 
12:38 PM
@Polynomial I kinda figured that. :P
 
@Polynomial I am aware, and it still doesnt work.
 
Most should know IOActive though?
 
@AviD Context IS / IOActive.
 
(see now THAT is funny, because for a while I was a company Aware.... ;- )
 
@Polynomial amounts of time someone said fuck
 
12:39 PM
@LucasKauffman Ah. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckity fuck. Now your stats are out of date, mwahahaaaa.
 
@LucasKauffman Surprised to see @AviD not on there.
 
@TerryChia me? nah, I can express myself with human words.
 
Avid has 6
 
I'm surprised Scott's not up the top.
 
Every time I said "fuck", @RoryAlsop came along and edited it out. :(
 
12:40 PM
@Polynomial You don't know @Simon since you have been gone.
 
I'm probably lower due to the fact that I'm more inventive with my variants.
 
@Polynomial We've seen things when you were gone.
 
@LucasKauffman #Simon things...
 
like "what the f0rk" or "feck"
orly?
Has Simon become death, destroyer of words?
 
@FEichinger you're too young to use words like that.
 
12:41 PM
@Polynomial No, he's just stupid. And Canadian.
 
@LucasKauffman LIES!
 
@AviD Also, get off your lawn?
 
damn right.
 
@Polynomial @AviD has a lawn?
 
@TerryChia Genuinely stupid, or funny stupid?
 
12:42 PM
@Polynomial Hard to tell.
 
... Need I bring out the story about kids calling me a 'grumpy old man'?
 
@FEichinger Aren't you like... 23 or something?
 
@TerryChia Technically stupid? i.e. bad at teh security?
'cos I've seen decent answers from him, not that I've looked closely.
 
@TerryChia Unusually low estimate. Good job!
 
@Polynomial A link speaks a thousand words. chat.stackexchange.com/…
 
12:45 PM
:<
> 160 messages found
he makes up for 20% of all utterances of "yolo" across all of SE Chat, for all time.
that's impressive.
 
@FEichinger I tried to do that with all the ones I saw...for a while
 
@RoryAlsop ANd then #simon happened and you gave up?
 
@Arperum pfffft.
 
I think it's about time I told you the truth about me...
 

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