The DMZ

12:40 AM

@Iszi SF people hate questions like that. They actually have a close reason that says you're too dumb to ask questions here. Phrased a little more gently, but that's the gist.

KnightOfNi

1:14 AM

@tylerl What's SF?

tylerl

ServerFault

KnightOfNi

thanks

Terry Chia

3:24 AM

@tylerl Man i freaking hate systemd. And I'm a Fedora user. Blah.

tylerl

3:40 AM

@TerryChia why do you hate systemd?

I actually think it's nice

KnightOfNi

Hey everyone

I'm trying to kill a program

And some other process keeps starting it back up

Any ideas as to how I can find out which one?

tylerl

@KnightOfNi sounds like you got a problem.

KnightOfNi

Yes

tylerl

OS?

KnightOfNi

I just recently established that myself...

hehe

Win 7

Terry Chia

3:42 AM

@tylerl I think it's overly complicated and I get the impression that it isn't very stable (or maybe that's what I get for using a bleeding edge distro...).

Or maybe I'm just adverse to change. :P

tylerl

@TerryChia I agree that it's complicated. I've spend many hours reading up on it, but once you understand the problems it's solving, the design appears pretty elegant

Lennart has a blog series explaining how it works and why he did it the way he did.

The systemd for Administrators Blog Series

Also, it's quickly becoming the setup that kernel devs are assuming you'll be running. Greg K-H is pretty happy with it, and he's even been working on an in-kernel dbus

so, udev is now part of the systemd project, logind (another systemd project) replaces ConsoleKit, and ConsoleKit has been officially discontinued

If you're not using systemd, you're gonna get left behind.

@KnightOfNi you can sometimes use process explorer to see what the parent process is, unless they did the double-fork trick to daemonize. It's not as common on windows, though.

KnightOfNi

@tylerl Never mind, used the sysinternals process explorer to figure out what was accessing the file

tylerl

Event then, windows keeps the parent process ID, which might be usable for something

KnightOfNi

thanks though

tylerl

we dont really do tech support here, though.

KnightOfNi

3:53 AM

Yeah

Sorry about that

Just wanted a quick answer from people who knew what they were doing

tylerl

@KnightOfNi That's the thing: I've got a solid understanding of what I'm doing; I have no idea what you're doing.

KnightOfNi

@tylerl Fair point.

Iszi

8:52 AM

How the hell is this not closed as SR?

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Q: A firewall without any extra features

I have Kaspersky Internet Security (KIS) installed on my system. I always keep it disabled, yet using a few practices, I kept my system virus free for years: I disabled autorun using these tricks; I installed the freeware Panda USB Vaccine; Every time I get a new file from the web or by other m...

@RoryAlsop ^?

Rory Alsop

it is...

(I hadn't seen it)

lots of upvotes for a product recommendation question

Terry Chia

@Iszi Because it is a question from 2010....

Iszi

@RoryAlsop What do you mean you hadn't seen it? You deleted an answer from it 16 minutes ago.

@TerryChia Even more reason it should have been closed. We were probably still in beta, and everyone had vote-to-close permissions.

Rory Alsop

@Iszi that is quite possible

for really bad answers that are flagged, it can be a follow flag link to answer, agree, nuke

I'm going through a mass of flags over on Video, Sound Design and Music - so I quickly popped back to do this one

Terry Chia

@Iszi The bar for acceptable questions were much lower..... I can go flag and VTC a bunch of shitty questions and answers from you guys even if you want to start nuking old stuff...

Iszi

9:00 AM

@TerryChia I'm not looking for stuff to kill - this just happened to pop toward the top of the "active" pile.

Terry Chia

@Iszi And that explains why it is not closed doesn't it?

Iszi

@TerryChia No. People being lax about QC back in the day, as you said, would explain it.

Now, why it has remained unclosed for so long - yeah, lack of activity would cover that.

I think I've done my "good answer for a crap question" for today.

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A: VPN and remote desktop access

Based on the phrasing of your question, I'm going to make a couple assumptions and compose the rest of my answer from there. Assumptions: Your desktop is personally-owned equipment. You do not have VPN software installed on your desktop, and it very well may be a violation of your company's ...

It might even be a duplicate, but I wasn't in the mood to dig the old one up. Writing the answer was probably actually quicker.

Rory Alsop

@Iszi agreed. I improved the formatting of the question, but it is low quality "help me breach the rules configured for connecting to work" kind of thing

Iszi

@RoryAlsop And you didn't fix "enjoy fomforts" while you were at it? Shame on you.

Rory Alsop

9:15 AM

@Iszi dammit :-(

maybe I need to take a break from the screen

back later...

Iszi

@RoryAlsop Or go back to bed. What are you doing up so early on a weekend?

Rory Alsop

@Iszi loads of work to do (actual paid work, not volunteer moderating work :-)

a big paper to write

Iszi

@RoryAlsop On the weekend? Ouch.

Rory Alsop

bunch of meetings to prep for

yeah, I know

Iszi

3-day weekend for me - hence why I'm still up past 0400.

But I'm turning in now. G'night.

Rory Alsop

9:17 AM

I'm hopefully getting a decent bunch of holidays carried over from last year though

night

Iszi

Try not to work too hard - surely you'll be doing enough of that during the week anyway.

TildalWave

12:16 PM

Hockey USA : RUS now in 10-15 minutes, should be good

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Hockey, isn't that a Canadian thing? ;)

TildalWave

@TerryChia that's a bit like saying that football (soccer) is an English thing

Terry Chia

@TildalWave I'm kidding. I just wanted to make fun of someone since @Simon hasn't been around lately. :P

TildalWave

I know, it's OK you can try again

Simon's been here last night

Terry Chia

@TildalWave He only said a few things though.

TildalWave

12:33 PM

@TerryChia yes @Adnan smothered him with a loving hug again :)

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Typical @Adnan.

TildalWave

@TerryChia seems also typical @Simon he's like our own Kenny McCormick

Terry Chia

@TildalWave I have no idea who that is but I'm going to go ahead and agree with you.

TildalWave

Kenny McCormick

Kenneth "Kenny" McCormick (sometimes spelled as McKormick) is a character in the animated television series South Park. He is one of the main characters along with his friends Stan Marsh, Kyle Broflovski, and Eric Cartman. His oft-muffled and indiscernible speech—the result of his parka hood covering his mouth—is provided by co-creator Matt Stone. He debuted on television when South Park first aired on August 13, 1997, after having first appeared in The Spirit of Christmas shorts created by Stone and long-time collaborator Trey Parker in 1992 (Jesus vs. Frosty) and 1995 (Jesu...

Terry Chia

Ah South park. I don't watch South park.

TildalWave

12:37 PM

Me neither but that doesn't mean you wouldn't know they kill him in each episode

Terry Chia

Sounds just like @Simon then.

TildalWave

hehe they're already locked in a fight

not 5 minutes into first third

ManishEarth

1:11 PM

50 day commit streak!

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Neat. :)

I'd have expected you to be committing less on GitHub since FF isn't using that for source control. :P

ManishEarth

@TerryChia Actually, it does. Two of my forked repos are from Mozilla GH

But I haven't committed anything to that

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Ah really? I was under the impression that FF was using something else entirely.

ManishEarth

@TerryChia Firefox uses hg (hg.mozilla.org)

However there are mozilla projects on github.com/Mozilla

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Yeah, I meant FF specifically. You also contribute to other Mozilla projects?

ManishEarth

1:17 PM

@TerryChia I plan to. Haven't started yet.

Just done Firefox/Toolkit bugs, and one Bugzilla security bug

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Neat. If you want something else to do, here's a nice project. :P github.com/pyca/cryptography

ManishEarth

1:39 PM

no time

(i got bored so I populated m blog post with octocats :P)

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Heh, who doesn't love octocats?

ManishEarth

exactly

Terry Chia

2:11 PM

I love the title. reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1xtfk6/…

> Metasploit Update contains a QRCode-driven exploit for Android, affects versions under 4.2. So, you're okay unless you're in the 70% of folks with a vuln version

Terry Chia

3:00 PM

This is incredibly funny reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1ps0ae/….

(If you are not the sysadmin in question...)

TildalWave

3:21 PM

Mercans beat Russkies in hockey after penalty shootout

One goal from Russkies was not called during regular play tho

KnightOfNi

@TerryChia Oh dear. I laughed at this in the first couple paragraphs, but by the time I got to "e-mail's not secure" I was actually kind of sad...

Terry Chia

4:07 PM

@KnightOfNi The whole thing makes me sad.

KnightOfNi

@TerryChia To an extent, yes, but usually a laugh at someone else' expense make me feel more happy than anything else. The sad part is, that guy got hired to what he did... Somebody slipped up a bit...

Terry Chia

@KnightOfNi That guy will probably never find a sysadmin job ever again.

If there is any justice in the world that is.

Seriously, wiping the server before a successful restore?

KnightOfNi

@TerryChia Because why not?

A few years ago I saw someone delete several files as he copied them to another folder... Betcha he never made that mistake again.

TildalWave

@TerryChia he'd prolly end up dreaming aliens and anal probes, but I think that admin needs hypnosis

ManishEarth

4:54 PM

... I feel like playing with cryptolocker

but I won't

How does it behave on VMs?

KnightOfNi

@ManishEarth Heh. You get the threatening letter and send a sarcastic reply back...

ManishEarth

@KnightOfNi lol

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth I don't see why it would behave differently from what I have seen.

I doubt it's particularly sophisticated considering the type of users it's targeting.

ManishEarth

I bet you'd have to get the file into the VM by some route and seal that route first

KnightOfNi

@TerryChia Heh. I guess that guy deserved that...

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