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7:17 AM
@tylerl that is funny, I saw the image before the tweet and immediately thought "ooh popped box"
funny how that's what psexec is most known for now, in some circles...
 
good morning
 
@Lighty mornin'
 
8:14 AM
@RoryAlsop doesn't it require some fancy node gem thingy?
 
@Lighty Your punishment for criticising CSS will be to live for one year in a world of iframes and table-based websites, gifs and whole sites based on flash.
 
@Ninefingers it does require node (bizarrely) and GPG
 
@Ninefingers I still dont know how CSS works, I just change settings till it looks right
 
@RоryMcCune I don't understand this.
If you want a nice easy to install available everywhere language for linux platforms, try python
 
8:23 AM
@Ninefingers It's a joke, not critic, CSS is awsome, but an arse-biter in the hands of noobies
 
@Lighty Haha I'm kidding too. But seriously. It could be worse. Tables.
 
@Ninefingers shivers
thats why i love twitter-bootstrap
and not only because i'm just a lazy twat
well, that could be a main reason, but it's not, i swear! D:
 
@RоryMcCune what I want to know is what's wrong with some good ol' fashioned C?
 
@Ninefingers not hipster enough :)
 
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@RоryMcCune oh alright C++
 
8:32 AM
@Ninefingers BASIC or GTFO
 
8:53 AM
@RоryMcCune I'll be honest, I'll probably never use keybase on the basis it uses node. I don't want to install all those packages just to use it.
 
@Ninefingers yeah it was a bit painful for me to do that, but I'd been meaning to look at node for a while (it crops up on tests sometimes), so I'll need to use them at some point anyway....
 
@RоryMcCune In that scenario I'd probably want to use it in a VM
 
@Ninefingers well I have it in a VM, but mainly 'cause I run windows on the host and linux in VMs anyway...
 
@RоryMcCune which is a point - does it work on Windows?
 
@Ninefingers I think so, gpg4win and stuff needed tho'
 
9:05 AM
@RоryMcCune Hmmm okay.
@Lighty FORTRAN, innit.
 
9:25 AM
Hm, if you're not Good with C, I wouldn't recommend it. Too many things that can bite you on the ass.
esp. when doing security-critical "stuff"
 
9:37 AM
Wow, this is one of the best phishing scams I've ever seen so far.
 
oh wow, where's the link go to?
 
http://zippysuit.com/profiles/minimal/translations/login/login.html?webscr=cmd_‌​login
Probably should have worked better on the 'From' address and a bit more appealing domain name
but I imagine that many would fall for it
When I first saw it I said to myself "What the hell?! I only purchased 10 GBP worth of Skype credit. Why did they take 39 GBP?"
I wanted to dispute the payment so bad that I clicked before hovering to check the link
 
yea, that is a pretty darn good scam. Does the site just hoover up details, or is it dropping anything?
 
It doesn't look like it's dropping anything
No Flash, no Java, no Silverlight, no ActiveX. The only JS is the one that checks if you filled the form
 
10:02 AM
Could somebody please decipher this question for me?
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Q: Are women required to wear skirts to get into some tourist sites?

Dee BowersThere is mention of not wearing short skirts; does that mean skirts are required for women when wanting to visit places like churches, the Vatican, etc.

What is the OP trying to say?
 
@Adnan i saw that when i visited Rome last summer
there are open churches there to enjoy some artwork and buildings
but they bitch if women's legs or arms are visible
:/
i dunno, some religion rule or something, they let me in with "naked arms", but not my little sister and mother
 
@Lighty No no, I get that. In many tourist churches and mosques, women need to dress modestly. Sucks, but understandable.
I'm troubled by how the OP deduced the assumed implication that skirts are required
 
hm, i think he means "if you cant weat short skirts, do you have to wear normal skirts?"
and if that is the question, yes, because at the entrance of that Rome building, they handed out black clothes to use as skirt
but its foggy
 
@Lighty Still doesn't make sense. If they don't allow short skirts, the logical conclusion is that if you have to wear a skirt, then it must not be short.
and not that you have to wear a skirt.
 
my brain hurts, need more coffee to be able to continue parsing that
 
10:13 AM
If a venue has a rule that says "You're not allowed to drink strong alcohol on this premises", would you say "Does that mean that I'm required to drink some kind of alcohol?"
 
@Adnan aaahhhh
this all indeed doesnt make sense
heh, im scripting with vars named after the lines on a triangle
line A, B and C
and with the calculator's input, the vars to check if there is a NaN input are lineANaN, lineBNaN and lineCNaN
hehe, lineANaN :3
im tempted to add the D
 
@Lighty Clearly, you need to name your variable LineAd
 
@Adnan why LineAd instead of lineAdNaN? D:
ish boolean, with var lineANaN = isNaN(randominputvar);, and then an If/Else checker
 
@Lighty Finish it and show us your code
 
@Adnan But i don't wanna kill you guys with my horrible code :P
 
10:25 AM
@Lighty and make this if (isNaN(randominputvar))
 
@Adnan huh
didnt think of that
but i guess theres enough stuff in there that is "double" work
in my code i mean
but it counts an empty var as NaN too, working on that problem now :P
 
@Lighty It's a bit strange to create 3 separate variables for the boolean return of your isNaN and then run if/else over them
 
this is the function im struggling with atm then
and why is it strange? :o
i think its handy, because if there is a NaN (in other validation function where it checks if its filled out or not) adds a red colour to the input field, using twitter-bootstrap's CSS
 
@Lighty :O :O :O
and here's the Finnish version, ö ö ö
 
@Adnan or dutch, we have umlaut too :3
 
10:48 AM
 
 
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11:51 AM
@Ninefingers In which world is C++ better than C?
 
@TerryChia in a world where you want to shoot your own foot off?
 
12:06 PM
So, we're starting the "real programmers write C" circlejerk again?
 
12:17 PM
@Adnan I'm sure the real "real programmers" write in bytecode.
 
@Arperum Nah, real programmers feed binary pulses directly to the CPU.
 
@Adnan Nah, just the "C++ is in no way better than C" conversation.
 
@Adnan Dammit, I was getting the same thing.
 
@TerryChia Zip it, butt-hurt-Torvalds.
 
@Adnan Did you just compare me to Linus Torvalds? Damn, I'm honored.
 
12:22 PM
@TerryChia Only when it comes to the C++ vs. C argument.
 
C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C++ ;)
 
"Mjeh mjeh mjeh.. C is cool because only cool guys know C"
"C++ is bad because it has libraries and frameworks ooooh"
 
@Adnan out of curiosity what is your fav. language?
 
"If I write a project in C, then bad programmers won't ruin my work"
 
@Adnan So does C. But C still >>>>>>>>>>>>>> C++. ;)
 
12:24 PM
@RоryMcCune Honestly? Whatever gets the job done.
 
@Adnan sure but given a completely free choice, which language would you reach for by default...
 
@RоryMcCune I'd love to answer you, but I can't. If I want to write something complex for my little embedded device (grow up, @Terry), then I'd go with C. If I want to test something small on some web page, then I'd go with PHP. Currently, if I wanna build a web app, I'd go with Node.JS.
 
@RоryMcCune It probably depends on what is needed?
 
perhaps it's 'cause I'm not a real developer, but the idea of being equally conversant in a wide range of languages seems odd, I'd always have a preference
 
@Adnan Honestly at this point I'm just trolling you because you are annoyed; I have no idea why you are annoyed; and it's kinda amusing.
It's not the first or the last time we make fun of $LANGUAGE.
 
raz
12:28 PM
Yeah but $LANGUAGE is terrible
 
@raz So's your face.
 
raz
@TerryChia Owwww that hurt
 
Sadly I haven't seen a single good language which comes with a good IDE.
 
@RоryMcCune I completely agree, and I don't think it's possible. That's why I'm not a dev. at heart. I use whatever tool that is good enough to do the job.
When it comes building software, that's out of my league.
 
@CodesInChaos Java? Oh wait, you said good language.
 
12:30 PM
@CodesInChaos ruby && rubymine :)
 
free flags
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Q: what is web application development

kepranKepran Infosoft is a Web Application Development company which provides web application development, online web portal, PHP web applications, , custom web application development services with quality and time line

 
@RоryMcCune Or Python && PyCharm. Or any other lang with a JetBrains IDE.
 
@TerryChia well apart from Java
 
@RоryMcCune Heh. Of course.
 
@Lighty Wrong link
(shh, everybody)
 
12:32 PM
@Adnan then you were too late to join the flag party ):
 
@RоryMcCune The problem with the software development industry is precisely that many people find that idea odd.
In fact, being "equally conversant" in many language is a prerequisite to be actually good at software development.
 
@ThomasPornin indeed I'd agree thus my explicit exclusion of myself as a "developer" :)
although I still feel I'd have a preference for one that felt more "natural" to me
 
@Lighty So now you have to tell me how you found me on Facebook
 
@ThomasPornin Maybe no one is actually good at software development, the world is doomed and we should all go back to planting crops and hunting wild animals.
 
Programming languages are not natural. It is like reading and writing: a trained skill. Nothing natural here.
@TerryChia When the world plunges to its doom, hunting wild humans is a better survival strategy (for the first decade at least).
 
12:41 PM
@ThomasPornin Says The Bear.
 
@Lighty With only my first name?
 
yup
 
C++ was a marvellous innovation, but not in software engineering. The beauty of C++ is in the marketing.
 
i was brored btw
 
12:42 PM
@RоryM What the hell, man?! Look!
Same thing!
 
@Adnan huwhut?
 
@RоryMcCune He found me on Facebook just by first name.. without us being connected any way
 
@ThomasPornin Anyway, on a more serious note, a large part of "modern" software development is knowing what libraries are available for a particular language. That's difficult to do for multiple languages.
 
@RоryM Just like when you found me
 
@Adnan wait, there is indeed no connection whatsoever
 
12:43 PM
@Adnan ahh, yeah facebook are up to some sketchy stuff alright!
how would they even do that
 
@Lighty Yeah, I don't think you really found me through Facebook.
So, how did you really find me?
 
@Adnan i did o.o
i just typed Adnan into the search box
thats all D:
 
@Lighty I've specifically hidden myself from the Facebook search (for people with no connection to me) after @RоryM found me
 
ladies ;)
 
@Lighty and you went through all the Adnans in the world?
That's dedication
 
12:44 PM
@Adnan ill demonstrate
 
@Adnan You have a stalker. Welcome to the @Polynomial club. ;)
 
1st in my results
0 connection to anyone in that list
 
@Lighty Jesus Christ! Remove the image
 
@Adnan My strategy for hiding my Facebook account is better than yours.
 
@Adnan sorry X.x
 
12:46 PM
@ThomasPornin I tried it for 5 months. I wasn't able to stick to it
 
@ThomasPornin You don't have one?
 
@TerryChia Exactly.
 
@Lighty @Terry Looks like Facebook removed that privacy setting after making it "Public" by default.
Fuck
What the hell, @Jeff ?!
 
@Adnan intercourse
 
@Adnan Huh. That's stupid.
 
12:47 PM
@Adnan Weeell... so it turns out that you, in fact, have a surname. What a surprise.
 
now i'm curious, 0 relation, 0 connectivity, and STILL a suggested freind, Likes and such prolly don't even look near each other, liked pages and such
 
@ThomasPornin A surname that was veeery well hidden
 
So I officially switched to Firefox .. so far so good. Haven't noticed any problems and I can have at least double the number of tabs open as in Chrome per same amount of consumed memory and it doesn't bork up sound and other I/O trying to hardware accelerate beyond what's possible. Even made everything else exactly the same, addons, looks (well, almost but same useful area), startup and new tab behavior...
 
Well, I guess not anymore
@Lighty I don't have any "Likes" on Facebook
 
@Adnan It cannot be secret. For one, other people like your parents know it and even use it in their daily activities.
 
12:49 PM
@TildalWave Pray that you don't encounter a problematic tab.
 
@TildalWave welcome to the dark side, cookies on the left, awesome-developer-plugins on the right
 
@ThomasPornin Sorry, well-hidden.. online.. from strangers.. and people with whom I don't want to share.
 
Personally, I perform all my online activities under the assumption that it could be all printed out and shown to my mother, my employer, and the pope (not necessarily in that order).
 
@ThomasPornin That's not my problem at all. Nearly half of the people here know my identity, and I link my SE profile on my CV.
I was just under the assumption that I was skillful enough to hide my surname
 
I don't write anything that I could be ashamed of, because, well, it would be shameful.
 
12:51 PM
and I was pretty successful at it. Until this Facebook thing
 
@TerryChia Haven't so far ... and I did frequently in Chrome, sometimes even BSOD because my system disagreed with its resource use and prioritization. It even runs raster if not exactly as smooth (but good enough)
 
I'm still puzzled by the fact FB reccomended me, and that its in the 1st result on only first name
 
@Adnan You want to hide information by giving it to Facebook ?
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@Lighty heh thanks but that's kinda the same as in Chrome anyway
 
@ThomasPornin Ahh.. Thomas :|
 
12:52 PM
@TildalWave Chrome doesn't have FireBug
<3
 
I'm pretty sure today is troll @Adnan day.
 
@Lighty Does it need it? It has full debug capability built in
 
Hiding information on Facebook is feasible, but you have to do it right.
I.e. create a thousand or so of other "Adnan" accounts, all with the same contents and pictures, but different surnames.
 
@TerryChia :(
 
@TildalWave Firebug has things as step-by-step debuggin in console and script tab (as in, it runs through the script on execute, and lets you look at the changes step-by-step) :3
 
12:53 PM
That is the cryptographer's way of hiding information.
 
@ThomasPornin if he disguises it as spam not even NSA will read it :)
 
@TildalWave You mean I should just continue writing normally? :D
 
@Adnan Nah, you are not nearly polite sounding enough for spam.
 
If i ask a FB question on SEC.SE under Privacy, is it on topic?
 
@Adnan well if you tend to fall asleep on the ctrl+v then yes
 
12:55 PM
Okay, everybody, just press Ctrl+V and post it
vertical-align: middle;
Well, that wasn't as embarrassing as I thought it would have been.
 
stop(); //hammertime
 
@Lighty that's already built in in Chrome
 
@TildalWave huh, didnt know that :o
 
@ThomasPornin Only if you create 2^128 fake profiles. Everything less has way too low security level.
 
1:04 PM
@Lighty I'd say that's borderline off-topic
 
@Adnan i honestly had no clue which site to ask that one on
if you know, tell meh D:
 
> I'd rather have 10 hours per week of quality coding experience than 40 hours in the Java mines maintaining someone's VibratorFactoryVisitorSingleton.
That's from HN.
 
I'm not sure
 
i thought SEC.SE was a good canditate because of the privacy-thing and user conencting
 
@Lighty I don't know. Just wait and see
 
1:07 PM
@Lighty What I don't get is why I'd need Firebug? Firefox also seems to have full DOM inspection and debugger built in.
 
it also gives a counter for console errors and such
it s abit more broader than the standard one i believe
 
@TildalWave Someone may correct me but my personal opinion is that Firebug is a leftover from when FF didn't have good built-in dev tools.
I have not seen any features in it that is worth installing it for yet.
 
@TerryChia Correct
 
@Adnan googles furiously
my boss recommended it to me, he's the guy that actually teached me some things
 
But Firebug has very nice extensions that help debugging the un-debuggable PHP, jQuery-specific dubugging tools, nice cookie-related stuff, etc.
I used to use Firebug heavily before moving to Chrome
 
1:10 PM
@Lighty OK but what of it isn't already built in?
I can't find any
 
@TildalWave Cookies. Firebug makes working with cookies super simple. I've never bothered to try and figure out how to work with the in the FF debugger because Firebug works so well, and Chrome is utterly retarded in this aspect.
 
@TerryChia that's how I understand it too
 
@TildalWave "my boss recommended it to me, he's the guy that actually teached me some things"
 
@Xander ah Chrome used to do that pretty good but they ruined it ... now you need a 3rd party plugin for that
 
In fact, currently, the debugger in Firefox has a few more features than Firebug
Like the profiler
Which is crazy-important if your' doing SPAs
 
1:12 PM
@TildalWave I also just like the Firebug UX better than the OOTB debugging tools in Firefox. It feels more like Chrome's debugging tools to me, where the OOBT tools feel like IEs.
 
@Xander you seem to be right there with cookies, at least I don't see any easy way to inspect / edit them in Firefox dev tools
 
@Xander don't name that browser you named last please.... gives me diseases
 
Ah no I found cookies now
Network -> click on request -> cookies
hmmm I just can't seem to find a way to edit them
yeah ... so I'd need some cookie cutter
 
@Adnan hmm, nope, my firebug haz a profiler too xD
 
@TildalWave Yeah, and in Firebug you can edit them, add them, toggle options like UrlEncoding...It's just really nice.
 
1:19 PM
@Xander well considering that just firing up Chrome eats up more resources than now using FF for hours with all the tabs I need open I think I can afford one or two more plugins :)
 
@TildalWave Ha ha, no doubt.
 
raz
Question: when reviewing this for Low Quality. What would you put for Recommend Close?
-4
Q: Question regarding Oauth and https

Michael GohWhats the difference between Oauth protocol and https protocol?

Because I feel like none of my options are suitable, but clearly it should be closed.
 
What's surprising about FF is how fast they moved from "I hate it" to "I love it". Seems only like a year ago that I absolutely disliked FF, even considered it a bloatware. How things change LOL
 
raz
It's apparently on hold now for being "Off Topic", but is it really off topic? I guess you could consider it too broad?
 
@raz rather Too Broad than Off-Topic
 
1:22 PM
@raz I voted as too broad but I guess the majority said it's off-topic
 
raz
@Lighty I feel like there should be a, "Lack of effort" option.
 
sometimes all it takes is two and all others put each some other reason
 
@raz indeed, thats what i commented too, google first, then ask
escpecially if his question's awnser, is the very first result on google
 
@TerryChia The first DSA standard mandated the modulus to have size between 512 and 1024 bits, and multiple of 64
An ulterior version mandated 1024 bits, always.
Then another version also allowed 2048 and 3072 bits.
Some implementations are stuck at the "only 1024 bits" version.
 
@raz Sometimes there isn't a great option, and you just have to either pick the least bad, or go to off-topic and write a custom reason. I think I picked "unclear what you're asking" for that one, since the things he would like compared are not directly comparable, so unless he can clarify so the question makes sense, it's not a real question.
 
raz
1:31 PM
@Xander Makes sense
 
1:54 PM
@Lighty How about getting a browser that supports spell checking?
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@CodesInChaos how 'bout shove a cookie in your mouth D:
 
@CodesInChaos 10/10 would read again.
 
raz
@Lighty Your edits fail to actually edit. It's kind of impressive.
 
@TerryChia I was responding to "not hip enough" requirement... but modern C++, e.g. C++11, is very powerful and can be used almost without ever typing "new" and "delete".
 
@Lighty Use Chrome and enable "Google-aided spellcheck". It will also automatically fix your grammar.
 
2:01 PM
@Adnan i prefer firefox, but it actually works home, but thats because of Windows 8.1, i use an iMac at work
 
@Lighty and you met your girlfriend in the mall and you like her a lot but things aren't going very well lately?
You know, since you're telling me your life story
 
@Adnan ...
i actually met her on Minecraft
on my server
a really funny story
and things go well
i always get free chocolate ^^
 
For the security/crypto heads: In Finland, now it's more and more popular to ditch username/passwords for government service login and instead use the new government-issued ID card that is equipped with a smart card chip that serves an SSL client cert.
I was testing it today. So cool!
I shoved my card in the computer, and logged in to the tax authority and did my tax papers in 3-4 minutes.
Pretty neat.
 
@Adnan This also happens to some extent in Switzerland (SuisseID) and in Bulgaria they offer notary services using smart cards for digital signatures.
 
@Adnan Here we use a shitty-secured "DigiD" service that runs on old windows 2003-type service and is maintaned for which city you live in (every city has its own server it seems), whith the best security evah -.-
 
2:07 PM
The UK gov't tax system will ID you via SSL certs too, but only if you use IE, and not, as far as I know, using a smart card.
 
@Ninefingers Yup. I was actually quite delighted when I heard that Switzerland has it. Pretty neat
 
@Adnan I think a few other countries have equivalents too
 
@raz and I thought I could do a bad job sometimes
 
raz
2:27 PM
@Lighty haha, "Lets delete everything and provide a completely different answer"
 
@raz thats not me, mostly i try to fix, but accidently look over some mistakes (you should know :P)
but it smells mroe like trolling than serious editing
but that could be because of the user having 1 rep, 1 badge and no awns/comment/quest. etc.
 
raz
Yeah I know its not you
 
@raz i meant style, not user
 
raz
@Lighty I know
 
3:12 PM
@Adnan I got an american express card in college just because it came with a free smart card reader
don't know that I ever even used the card
@raz must be a wikipedia editor
@Lighty nah, it's a serious edit, just from a user who doesn't understand how the system works
he thought he saw something wrong with the answer, so he edited it to fix it
not understanding that he should post his own answer instead
 
4:14 PM
Ah ! The hosting system for a VM that I rent just sent me an email warning me about a new vulnerability to SSLv3 called "Poodle".
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4:25 PM
@ThomasPornin good of them to let you know, did you consider responding with bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1076983#c54 and an arrow pointing to your name :)
 
@RоryMcCune It is an automated email; nobody would read the answer.
 
@ThomasPornin well that's just no fun!
 
4:41 PM
mmh, support.microsoft.com appears not to respond.
(This begins like a bad joke)
 
Works fine here.
 
Ah, it is just recovering. It might have been rebooted. Or it waited for @Simon to try.
 
I vote for the latter.
 
4:59 PM
@ThomasPornin quite a bit of lag on the first request here maybe they're fiddling with their load balancing
goes smooth after that
shit, ambiguity alert, @Simon don't you dare!
 
5:42 PM
Congratulations, Sec.SE just ruined my day
Can I make my machine warn me whenever that thing is used?
this is terrifying
 
@Undo DON'T PANIC.
And read the answer again.
 
raz
@ThomasPornin Linkage?
I don't see what's horrifying
 
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Q: Is there anything preventing the NSA from becoming a root CA?

user2813274There are now tons of CA's, many unrecognizable without a lookup or reference, that are trusted by default in major OS's - and while there have been attempts by the NSA and others to "hack" or otherwise exploit the root CA's, is there anything preventing the NSA from becoming a CA itself? it cert...

 
Looks like I don't read Sec.SE enough because I wouldn't panic if I ever saw that.
 
@raz It is not, but some people are likely to panic nonetheless.
 
5:47 PM
@ThomasPornin but I don't want to click Chrome's little https indicator all the time making sure I'm not giving all my stuff to the NSA :P
 
raz
@ThomasPornin To quote MIB: A person is smart, people are dumb.
 
@Undo You wouldn't want the NSA to see all the kitten pictures you're browsing, right?
 
raz
@Undo Then simply un-trust it. You have that option!
 
@Simon 'Course not
 
raz
@Simon He doesn't want them to see the kitty porn
 
5:49 PM
Actually what I don't want is them being around at all :P
 
@Undo Personally, the way I repel the NSA is by insulting them publicly like this: You suck donuts, NSA.
 
Yay, much better
Is... there a reason not to do that? :P
 
@Undo You do what you want with your own computer.
 
yay
 
well you can't really bash someone's head into with it and expect that "but it was my computer" would grant you a pardon
 
5:56 PM
for science!
 
@Undo The reason would be that you want to visit some site, or use some application that requires that certificate. If you are confident that you will not need to do that, or that you can work around it, then there is no reason.
@TildalWave Nobody made the claim that there would not be consequences for doing what you want with your own computer.
 
@Xander touché
 
@TildalWave Even entirely legal decisions, such as punt-kicking it across the room when it has given you some displeasure does not come without consequences, such as the potential need to purchase a new one should you in fact decide that you wish to use a computer at any point in the future.
 
or the leg you kicked it with
 
@TildalWave Yes!
 
6:05 PM
I'm pretty sure I'd get hernia if I tried to use my desktop comp to smash one's head in that thing is heavy like @Simon on donuts diet
 
@Undo I like how he hasn't said if it was fine or not and you just replied "yay" :p
@TildalWave I like big donuts and I cannot lie.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:20 PM
@Simon so many very wrong places that could go
oh hey, btw @simon, did you get my message the other day?
 
7:44 PM
I go look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada and my browser on my office machine (IE 9.0) warns me that "Java has been blocked because it is obsolete and must be upgraded".
There is a Java applet on Wikipedia ?
 
@ThomasPornin not from here (FF32 from the UK)
a potential benign explanation would be old browser detection leading to applet to make up?
 
Possibly
does anybody know how to use IE 9.0 debug mode to show the piece of HTML or Javascript that tries to load a Java applet ?
 
IIRC you should see an <applet> tag somewhere
FWIW changing my useragent to IE8 didn't cause an applet pop-up at all...
 
@RоryMcCune It does for me.
Weird.
 
@ThomasPornin yeah It seems it's not useragent based, so would need to be source IP address or other differentiating factor...
 
7:56 PM
Ah, the Java popup disappears if I set the "document mode" (not the "browser mode") to IE8.
 
@ThomasPornin so IE9 only, interesting
hmm tried setting to Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; MSIE 9.0; WIndows NT 9.0; en-US)) but not seeing JAva here yet (that said I am just emulating with FFox at the moment)
 
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