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00:33
@TildalWave Iranians?
ohh, I forgot how much I enjoy Sherlock.
> "You're a bloody psychopath!!"
> "High functioning sociopath. There's a difference."
00:55
That's a fantastic scene.
Actually, let me amend that statement. That's just a fantastic show.
All together well done.
Indeed.
Still think he should have been the next Doctor.
Benedict Cumberwho
Doctor Cumberbatch
Ooo...
> Full name: Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch
From this day henceforth this is how I will create English names. benedictcumberbatchgenerator.tumblr.com
Wimbledon Crumplehorn
Lord Commodore Wimbledon Crumplehorn
@ScottPack LOL, excellent
01:04
Ok. So it's not all apples and pears. I just generated "Baseballbat Cameltoe"
this one is an actor in some strange fetish pornos: "Bumberstump Snugglesnatch"
Bandersnatch Cameltoe
02:03
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@AviD 10/10 made me lol
02:30
@kalina @M'vy Be glad, I voted for you.
@TerryChia much appreciated
+20/-38 for the moment. But I haven't made my answers on the election Q&A
@M'vy -38?! What kind of assholes do they have on that site?
XD
02:49
Remember the last election here? All the candidates were saying nice things about each other.
Then that asshole @JeffF won.
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:P
ah ah
Dr. Who, weeping angels episode. Like that one :P
yeah, not that episode though. The first one. Serie 3.
Right. Blink.
If someone's never seen Doctor Who before Blink is a pretty great one to use as an introduction.
"The Angels have the phone box, I've got a T-Shirt of that one" ... brillliant :P
Nurds.
Sorry, Simon wasn't around so someone had to.
Totally
03:16
Here. This should kill the nerd sports.
Anyone using vagrant BTW?
Don't they uprgade their base boxes?
I work with some. Does that count?
well I guess the question was mostly rhetorical...
but that apt-get upgrade takes sooooo long
Though it was meant to be easy to rebuild them from scratch with some script...
 
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05:45
@ScottPack oh god no. That one still scares me.
but yeah, excellent episode.
 
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09:49
@M'vy looked into vagrant
but I've already invested in Chef
I don't think it offers enough over Chef. I know vagrant is supposed to be for development but Chef supports all that out the box too
10:13
plus, Chef has much better mental imagery than vagrant.
10:27
gents, ladies
good morning
Mornin' all
@AviD there's another one in the first season that's similarly scary: The Empty Child
oh yeah. but it only starts out that way, then gets less scary.
@AviD Perhaps, dunno because it was the first season and I only watched it when it came out, so a while ago. Wasn't there another part with mannequins?
yeah, thats a brilliant scene.
@TildalWave yeah, the mannequins wasnt so scary. That was the first episode.
I mean, almost all the episodes have an element of scary in it. but there are different kinds.
10:35
Oh... well it just seemed familiar that's all. I believe they had similar episodes in the original Doctor
actually, also in the original Tomorrow People but those are quite corny if you watch them today
@TildalWave well, so is most of the original doctor who....
I'm not sure that changed much but I watch it for the stories not how true to life it depicts something that ... well ... just isn't anyway
I like the most those written by Steven Moffat but those by Russell T. Davies are usually also great
11:20
dammit, top 5 questions on the home page are closed for being crap.
@AviD I've mentioned it a few times prolly that I got the feeling SE is getting more trolls (in a broad sense) in the last few months than it used to. It's not just on Sec.SE either ... but I can't see in stats I have access to if that also means the traffic increased, which might explain it
On smaller sites, we can still turn around some of them so they start posting better quality stuff (always nice to see actually), and bombard crap with whatever it takes to get rid of it. It's just somewhat easier there, but here they just don't stop, you get rid of one, two... and three new will come.
@TildalWave hmm, nothing special really, always (slightly) increasing traffic, some peaks and valleys but nothing out of the ordinary.
yeah, it is the result of better visibility in google and such, I guess.
It's difficult to tell the difference between a troll and a genuine idiot.
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@AviD Then I dunno, some days it feels like they've started advertizing SE on Red Bull or something
@Ladadadada yup, that's why I said "in a broad sense"
hmm, might be specific sites.
11:32
didn't want to start listing all of the types
like reddit and stumbleupon.
could be
or quora
@TildalWave that would make sense, but I dont see a huge amount of traffic incoming from quora.
@Ladadadada I didn't yet make my mind about this one, but it's hilarious: astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/1535/13
@AviD Yea, Sec.SE might be a bit too specific for Quora I'm not sure they're into security there
@TildalWave That's... inventive.
11:43
yeah, as in, take any number of words you don't understand, add some verbs and pronouns to it, shuffle, reassemble and call it science... done :)
hmmm no no it's Tuesday this is not how the day should have started ... @AviD hit me with some video clip from Friends or something to cheer me up LOL
heh, so thats my job now?
just go to youtube, search for chandler bing, click any of the vids that come up.
yeah?
@AviD I dunno which ones are funny
@AviD Other good search terms are "collegehumor".
@TerryChia that is unlikely to find you clips from Friends.
@AviD Well no, but he wanted videos to cheer him up.
Also, HISHE is hilarious as well.
11:52
oh well, then that would work
12:09
@TildalWave yknow what really gets me bouncing, when I need to run at the keyboard?
11th Doctor's theme song.
@AviD What do you mean? Like getting a call early in the morning and some business contact asking you for info that he/she can't find in the emails that you sent?
@TildalWave no no, when I need to let the leash out, have a good run, full speed ahead, covering a lot of ground. Really rev the engine.
Virtually speaking, of course.
@AviD Is that a euphemism?
not this time, no. It's a metaphor. Or maybe a simile. I really can't tell.
I guess so. Either that, or he's got a treadmill next to his PC
12:17
@TildalWave or a treadmill PC desk, that's apparently a thing
2 mins ago, by AviD
Virtually speaking, of course.
@TildalWave So he likes to listen to the 11th Doctor's theme song before/while doing it? That's kinky.
dunno, I haven't a clue what he was talking about :)
Wanna help me reptrain a question? It's really close, just open it: space.stackexchange.com/questions/3520/…
It's not a great question, just a bit of fun really
12:32
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Q: Why do Oracle tools suck so much ass?

MauWhy was it designed to have the most finicky parser ever made? When queried via .NET APIs it's a trial and error process to get queries to work, queries that work fine in SQL Developer.

@LucasKauffman Well, he's got a point there.
13:03
your face has a point there.
@AviD Yes, it's called a nose.
> "Aaah, Mount Everest!"
> "Yes, it's called a hill."
13:26
> the important question isn't why Oracle tools suck so much ass, as many things engage in copious ass-suction. The important question is how tools that suck so much ass can command such a high price. Because I can write shitty tools... I just can't get morons to fork over 6 and 7 figures for permission to use my shitty tools. – HopelessN00b
13:44
@CodesInChaos incentivize! :)
@TRiG is there one with a hamster wheel?
14:07
@TildalWave What an awesome idea. How would you mount the computer?
@TRiG well, where you'd mount a carrot for the hamster of course :D
and for boat programmers ...
 
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15:56
sigh
@kalina what's with the sigh kalina, has life disapointed you once again?
yes
Maybe you should tell this Life guy to see his doctor about those little blue pills.
mmm blue pills
@kalina you're not the one supposed to take them
not sure what effect they have on women anyway
16:00
I'm thinking of different blue pills
@kalina The one from the Matrix?
no
nevermind
@kalina I thought they were yellow?
or green.
they come in a variety of colours
STRIPEY PURPLE WITH ORANGE POLKA DOTS.
16:25
@kalina oh you withdrew from election?
yeah
cause of votes? or cause the questionnaire scared you?
I'm not scared of the questionnaire - I wrote a few of the questions
@TildalWave I need to spend more time on Space.SE. That question was fascinating. (Or rather, the answers were.)
@Ladadadada You thought so? I was just a bit bored during my morning coffee so I thought to ask a lighthearted question. There's quite many good ones around tho, with some excellent answers. And we're trying to keep things interesting in meta too, check that too (mostly collections of stuff that don't fit on the main site)
16:35
ah, tax time... my favorite time of the year
middle of March here, there's still time :)
@AviD what if I want to hack the Gibson?
@TildalWave no, it's actually my favorite time of the year. I regularly get free money from the government (ok, actually it is getting back money they shouldn't have taken to begin with, but I prefer to think of it the former way)
> Questions asking us to break the security of a specific system for you are off-topic unless they demonstrate an understanding of the concepts involved and clearly identify a specific problem.
@TerryChia what isn't clear about plot elements from horrible sci-fi movies?
though I suppose they clearly had no idea about the concepts involved
@AJHenderson Everything?
16:39
@AJHenderson Ah yes, that's actually same for me too, since I pay max taxes year long and claim benefits later
actually, is there a word for this?
not the "tax return" I mean that year long system
not sure what you mean
sadly, this may actually be one of the last years I get big returns though. Going forward I'm going to have business income and student loan interest is going to start disappearing, though I will pick up some housing and child related credits
but they tend to be better at estimating those credits in to payroll deductions
well, here I could either complicate and pay taxes more precisely (however that's called, but it's "the complicated accounting") or you pay maximum and claim the rest yearly with your tax report
obviously, I know nothing about accounting ... even words fail me LOL
I always ask my Dad accounting questions
since he's a CFO
granted he specializes in non-profits, but he still remembers most of his CPA stuff
from his auditing days
I do what we refer to as "simple bookkeeping", then fill all the data in my tax report (once per fiscal year) and I get back whatever I overpaid
this year I discovered the joy of writing off assets to a business
16:44
that I can't do since I have them at fixed percentage
when 2500 of income disappears to student loan interest and another grand and a half or so disappears to business assets I suddenly have almost 2 grand coming back to me this year
granted, with a baby on the way, it's all going straight to that
so it's kind of anti-climactic
you try giving birth to it and then we can talk about anti-climactic
@kalina TWSS
Oh wait...
...
@kalina haha
16:48
I am immune to "that's what she said" comments
since I did in fact, just say that
well, that does make it what she said
39 secs ago, by Terry Chia
Oh wait...
@AJHenderson Just wait 'till next year when you have that extra exemption to claim. :-)
@Iszi does the exemption apply to the whole year or just from birth on?
@TildalWave If it's a bit of fun you want, I just had a go myself.
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Q: Did cows in Germany blow up their own barn by farting?

LadadadadaAs reported by Reuters, Flatulent cows start fire at German dairy farm - police Methane gas from 90 flatulent cows exploded in a German farm shed on Monday, damaging the roof and injuring one of the animals, police said. High levels of the gas had built up in the structure in the central...

16:49
if it's pro-rated, it wouldn't help much, though it if goes for the whole year, it will be huge
wait, @trig when did you start hanging out here
@AJHenderson The whole year, I believe. I've heard of some couples inducing labor early near the end of December strictly for the purpose of getting the exemption for that year.
@Iszi wow, that's creepy
@AJHenderson I'd say "Only in 'MURCA!" but I wouldn't be too surprised if there's other countries with similar tax codes.
@Iszi nobody is as good at making overly complicated laws as America
nobody
we have a patent on it
if you make laws more complicated, we invade
it's like a database trigger
I wonder how much the federal budget (and the IRS) would shrink if we switched over to a flat tax like I've heard some suggest - where there's no income tax, just sales tax.
16:57
it would probably increase defense spending to avoid a revolt when people actually realized how much tax they are paying
not that we are particularly high compared to some other countries, but the average American has no clue how much of their income goes to the government
when you factor it all together
the amount hidden behind payroll taxes that the employer pays and the way taxes are spread out over things like sales tax and property tax and income tax and corporate tax, etc, etc
you consolidate that all in to a single sales tax and there will be serious sticker shock
@AJHenderson The average American has no clue about anything. :P
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Kidding!
@TerryChia I'm not
the average American sadly cares more about their TV shows and what the talking head on their news channel of choice says than they do about what is actually happening in the country or world
as long as they are entertained, they don't really care about much
Dunno how much my employer pays, but my cut of income tax is usually around 25% - then again, I don't claim any deductions on my W-4 so, I get a good hunk of that back in the end. Add in sales tax and it comes around 32%. So, effectively a third of my income goes to The Man, at least until tax return season rolls around.
unless there is a politician to stir it up to get votes
generally your employer pays almost as much payroll tax as you do income
it's about 3 parts payroll to every 4 parts income
so imagine if that 25% income became 45% with another 8% sales
you'd be paying a 53% sales tax
not factoring in property taxes
@Ladadadada Hahaha brilliant! It might be even true, who knows. Maybe you'll get someone that's equipped with data on how much methane can be released by a cow at some period of time and calculate the risk (size of the barn and its doors / windows would play a crucial role too when that gas buildup would ignite) :)
17:05
though if it was made truly flat, all government spending is only a little over 38% of our GDP
though we're currently in debt up to 107% of our GDP
almost 108%
@TildalWave Barns are not known for being particularly airtight. :-P
and even among the occasional American's that care about what is going on, the majority of them would still rather vote for bad choice on the left or bad choice on the right
without looking hard enough to see that the right and the left aren't even different any more
we have a single party system in the US that only differentiates on silly peripheral issues
@Ladadadada Ah you see in south Germany they might be, at least the old ones because during the Austria-Hungary monarchy, farmers paid taxes depending on the size of the windows on the building, so they were building them really small not to pay much of it. you can see such barns here too, since we were part of that empire.
Of course, during the Austria-Hungary empire, they didn't really use electricity in barns ... not in those of farmers that had problems affording to pay taxes at least
17:31
@AJHenderson I pop by now and then.
18:17
Hey all, I was told you guys might be able to answer a question about international travel.
I'm planning to visit South Africa this December, I was wondering if it's fairly easy/normal to get a multiple day layover in a transfer country (Amsterdam in this case) so I can see the city
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Q: What additional mitigations are necessary due to "Continue where I left off"?

John WuI work with sensitive sites that handle financial information, my code protects more than four billion pounds of assets. All of our sites have a logout button and in addition use HttpOnly, Secure, Session cookies to maintain a user's session. Although we expect users to click the "Logout" butto...

if you are protecting 4 billion in assets, I would have considered him to have enough knowledge to fix this himself no?
@Pheonixblade9 why would we know about that o.O?
@ton.yeung told me to ask here, said there were lots of europeans :)
@Pheonixblade9 south-africa is in .... africa
that's not europe...
you must be american.
@LucasKauffman yes. I'm asking about international travel.
...I'm not an idiot, I was asking about Amsterdam. Which is in Europe.
@Pheonixblade9 I think it would be better asking this in Travel.SE main chat. From my experience tho no, but you might have problems booking flights like so with any discount online, so a trip to your first travel agent might be in order. But don't take my word for it, ask the Travel guys
18:22
@TildalWave thanks, I'll do that :)
@Pheonixblade9 aaah well yea normally it should be easy
try booking.com
sometimes it's quite hectic when there are conferences
Ive had my room their spike to 2k for a week once because of that
this will be over the holidays, so I imagine there won't be any conferences, but probably lots of visitors
thanks guys
I'd save one more day for SAR but that's me, I've been to Amsterdam many times already and never in South Africa
@TildalWave I've never been outside of the US except for Vancouver BC (which doesn't really count)
> my code protects more than four billion pounds of assets.
and yet he asks at Sec.SE to get answers for free
18:27
@Pheonixblade9 and sry bout that :P
@Pheonixblade9 if you book up front it will be booked
@LucasKauffman np :) just remember, ignorance about Americans is no better than ignorant Americans :P
yeah, this will be booked many months in advance
and I'm getting travel insurance
@Pheonixblade9 watch out when getting high tho
also the red light district is full of scammers
not planning on smoking or going to red light district
weed is legal in Seattle, and hookers are legal in BC (not that I plan on partaking in either)
thanks for the advice though :P
ah no
just visit it
gotcha. I keep my wallet in my front pocket anyways, lol
18:34
Oh there's loads of other stuff to see there besides the cliché tourist attractions, especially for someone that's never been to the old continent before.
@Pheonixblade9 its quite unique
what kind of stuff is must-see that can fit in a couple days?
@Pheonixblade9 good question
Probably depends what you're into but I definitely wouldn't wanna miss the art galleries / museums and just enjoy the street ambience. For me the latter isn't much different than in my hometown but I always hear Americans saying how different that is to what they're used to back home. Just taking it easy can be a lot of fun IMO
18:52
cool :)
 
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19:57
@Pheonixblade9 I'd recommend rijksmuseum.nl/en
t'was awesome
canal trips are also good
20:19
@Pheonixblade9 ask in the Travel chat
21:14
@RoryAlsop @AviD @JeffFerland Might wanna catch this guy before he does anything else.
21:36
Hey all, I have a quick question I don't know would be appropriate for the site, is it OK to ask here?
@KnightOfNi sure
OK, thanks.
Does anyone know if there is any software that MiTM's a client's connection and edits their packets so that the server they connect to thinks they only support a weak ciphershuite (downgrading an SSL connection)? I think this type of attack exists, but haven't the slightest idea how to do it.
21:52
we don't do software recommendations on the main site, because they tend to be a matter of opinion and the answers change quickly
someone might answer you in chat though
and you can ask for help on doing the attack (e.g. what packets you need to change, how you need to set up your network to carry it out, that kind of stuff)
related read:
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Q: Why is TLS susceptible to protocol downgrade attacks?

D.W.A recent blog post from Ivan Ristić (expert extraordinaire on all things SSL) says: all major browsers are susceptible to protocol downgrade attacks; an active MITM can simulate failure conditions and force all browsers to back off from attempting to negotiate TLS 1.2, making them fall back a...

@Gilles Just clarifying, I can ask for help with the attack in this chat?
@KnightOfNi yes, but if it calls for more than a 1-line answer we might ask that you ask on the main site
OK, fair enough
22:24
I have gone through that post and related links, but can't find the actual exploit to downgrade the encryption.
23:07
Evening. Sorry I missed that earlier @Iszi - was underground, drinking:-)

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