The DMZ

12:04 AM

@TildalWave I notice that it's been nearly 6 months and no answers.

@ScottPack That question had one truly epic answer with hand-drawn diagrams and explaining physics involved (albeit in layman's terms, it was factually correct). The whole approach to answering it was fascinating, to say the least. Hilariously funny, too. I had that question starred as the only question on Skeptics only because of the answer it used to have, but now it's disappeared... can you check with mods there where it's gone and why? I don't know who to ask

Scott Pack

12:56 AM

Me neither.

That would be the perfect situation for some mod on mod action.

TildalWave

@ScottPack ah I constantly forget you're not a mod...

Scott Pack

You'll have your opportunity to correct that injustice the next time we have an election.

TildalWave

Sure, I'll let you know at what address I accept bribes :)

BTW I've seen aszad is in the penalty box... what did I miss?

D3C4FF

@TildalWave attempts at trolling

TildalWave

1:12 AM

@D3C4FF Posts or here on DMZ? I need to check transcripts I think I saw something a day or so ago but didn't want to interfere for a change, see where it ends. I'm glad I don't always feel the need to speak my mind, though :)

D3C4FF

2:08 AM

@TildalWave he was complaining about people downvoting his poor quality responses and then came here to tell people to 'stop picking on him'

But he either wouldn't listen to reason or was just crazy and he kept insisting he was right

TildalWave

Oh gosh just read through the transcripts up till the actual ban... that's one of the longest pieces of utter bollocks I've ever seen... I can only compliment @AviD for putting up with it for so long and @Adnan for doing his best to stay away from it

D3C4FF

In the end it just seemed like he was arguing for the sake of it

So i guess one of the mods decided to ban him as a result

Yeah, i was there for the argument with AviD, crazyness...

TildalWave

That "your petulant juvenile attitude is tiring" comment from @AviD is solid gold

D3C4FF

Given his limited grasp of knowledge, i think he'd have had to check 4 out of those 6 words...

@AviD Hey.. Who's this mystery person. This is something I like to think i do as well :)

TildalWave

BWT good afternoon to OZ :) (to steer away from that topic as it's best avoided altogether, like you and Adnan did with Canon 5D)

D3C4FF

2:18 AM

BWT? Or BTW?

TildalWave

BTW, sorry... what's BWT?

D3C4FF

no idea xD

Its not quite Arvo yet ;)

Or is it?

Australia is a big place :P

TildalWave

I imagine it is, never been there myself. Wouldn't mind though

D3C4FF

Its pretty good. Some places are hot, some are quite cold. But lots of the natural stuff is quite spectacular

Whats Slovenia like?

TildalWave

2:36 AM

I was looking for some stand-up about naming Oz places, was pretty funny but I can't remember if it was Rhod Gilbert or some1 else... I found this compulsory That Mitchell And Webb Look clip that's somewhat relevant though LOL...

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@D3C4FF As far as the weather goes it's temperate climate and we enjoy most of the time nice protection from the Alps. People are mostly friendly, at least the natives but the main immigrant groups are from ex Yugoslavian republics,... I wouldn't like to comment on that... Countryside is green and picturesque (IIRC we're the greenest EU country, but don't take my word for it),... so in short it's nice to visit. Business-wise tho it's pretty crap.

D3C4FF

Green eh? That'd make for some nice pictures :P

TildalWave

@D3C4FF Education levels and standards are pretty high here, but maintaining the brains here is rather challenging with so many opportunities elsewhere (including Oz) and not much here.... yeah, pictures are nice :) I'd say girls are also pretty cute comparatively, so plenty of Kodak moments yup

We've just discovered with AviD some Israeli company BetterPlace uses photos from here for advertising their green services, which I found pretty funny considering they're not even present here with their business

D3C4FF

Hehehe, kodak moments. I've never touched anything other than disposable kodak film xD

They probably bought some stock photos

TildalWave

2:54 AM

@D3C4FF They used to run those ads "It's a Kodak moment" that I remember, but I never used their cameras either. If you Google for pictures from here you'll get a pretty good idea how it looks like, as it is a really tiny country. I can't really do the same for Oz now, can I? I've seen many films and photos from there, but I still get surprised each and every time how little I know about it.

I just realized something looking at those thumbnails that I need to investigate further, check these two images and tell me if you see the similarity...

I never saw that before, and I was there at that cave castle many times. I need to ask some people if that's merely a coincidence or there is something to it.

D3C4FF

Thats awesome

Whats the black dot on the cave? Is that a tunnel or something?

TildalWave

it's an entrance to a cave, pretty long one and one of the most interesting ones here

encrypted.google.com/…

it's not my personal favorite tho, there are nicer ones this one is just the most touristic one with a train, lights,... inside

You said it's not that late at your place (not Arvo yet... LOL). Does that mean you're from Perth?

D3C4FF

3:13 AM

Actually, i didn't technically specify.

:P

I regularly go caving in Oz in WA/SA/VIC

I'd go down that hole so fast!

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TildalWave

I used to go caving a lot also, until my bloody back injury forced me to rethink my participation in 'extreme sports'. :( But hey on the plus side I have more time for beer now :)

I think I found that stand up gig with names of Oz places, it's one of your own - Steve Hughes

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Xander

3:33 AM

spent three weeks in Melbourne last year on a client engagement. Loved it. Beautiful city.

TildalWave

3:47 AM

Charlotte looks nice too, judging by Google images. Reminds me of Frankfurt, especially the aerial photos

Xander

It is nice I enjoy it here.

I haven't had the chance to visit Frankfurt, unfortunanty, so I can't compare.

D3C4FF

Ah i love Frankfurt. Germany in general feels much like melbourne.

Same with holland.

Damnit. now i feel like travelling!

TildalWave

4:09 AM

@D3C4FF You shouldn't hurry too much to get to EU with the weather we're having here last few days :)

D3C4FF

Crazy weather is great fun! :D

It hasn't exactly been a walk in the park in Aus.

Temps hit 46degC in summer this year

w3rd

TildalWave

@D3C4FF you do realize it's winter time here, no? :))) please, stop talking about hot weather, i feel like jumping from great heights right now

D3C4FF

Hahah yeah i know. Technically isn't it springtime?

TildalWave

@D3C4FF tell that to the weather! LOL

D3C4FF

xD

I've only ever hit up Europe in Winter or Autumn. I don't mind a bit of blistering cold.

Its a nice change from scalding heat

Frost bite AND sunburn instead of sunburn AND heatstroke :P

TildalWave

4:18 AM

It isn't as bad here yet as @LucasKauffman was saying it's in Belgium, but that's usually only a day away from here in terms of the speed of the northern weather reaching these parts, so I'm not keeping my hopes up... in fact, the prospects for this next week are rather depressing

D3C4FF

Yeah depending on where work sends me next week, i'll be in poor quality weather as well :(

I miss belgium. So many abandoned things. ;__;

TildalWave

@D3C4FF poor weather? you mean not only you'll be seeing girls in bras everywhere, but they'll be wet from the rain too? yeah, poor you!!

D3C4FF

@Tidal Yeah. Sucks hey? :P

TildalWave

@D3C4FF I'm ordering a 6-pack piece of Belgium in a few hours time :)

D3C4FF

I'll have to bring some mojitos and kick it at the beach to make myself feel better

TildalWave

4:27 AM

I didn't find 6-packs so 2*4 will have to do

D3C4FF

5:15 AM

Cider is all the rage in Aus at the moment. I'm quite fond of this: townhallhotel.com.au/images/vault/plasma_on_premise-3382478.jpg

Also. cider is near impossible to find in S.E Asia D:

Lucas Kauffman

6:35 AM

@TildalWave There is no such thing as too much beer

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fucking weather

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman Yup it's getting sour here also

What's the name for that 'fake rice' made out of rice starch pasta?

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A: Risotto question - what does "translucent rice" look like?

Risotto is a common dish down my parts of the woods, being so close to Italy and all. Making your fist few risottos might seem a tad overwhelming with all the tiny details and tricks that recipes will hit you with, but you'll soon get a hang of it and think nothing of it. One 'seasoned advice' th...

it's like Orzo, but made out of rice, not wheat flour...

T. Webster

Hello. Does anyone know of some infosec jobs where you're on your feet more and behind the desk less?

less than programming, which is what I do now

Lucas Kauffman

@T.Webster Social Engineering, but that's about it

and maybe Datacenter audit

TildalWave

@T.Webster huh, walking about with a billboard sign "Sinners repent, The End is Neigh!" is close enough :))))

Lucas Kauffman

all the rest involves a lot sitting behind a computer

@T.Webster There's also the job of coffee carrier for the pentesters :P

T. Webster

6:46 AM

yeah I read on serverfault that NOC or field tech support are some answers

Lucas Kauffman

@T.Webster that's not infosec

TildalWave

@T.Webster NOC is a good idea

@LucasKauffman ... but true that also

T. Webster

OK Tildal. Yeah true what @LucasKauffman said.
Although Infosec is where I want to go, right now I'd like to spend more work hrs in the field.

TildalWave

@T.Webster field tech is in most cases just driving around a lot and then sitting in data centers or similar, I don't see that job as 'moving around more' in a sense of 'sitting down less'

Lucas Kauffman

yea that's the nature of the beast

the only time I'm walking around a lot is to track rogue access points

but that's about it

TildalWave

6:49 AM

@T.Webster have you tried with the kneeling chair? dunno how they're called officially tho... you probably know what I mean?

Kneeling chair

A kneeling chair is a type of chair for sitting in a position with the thighs dropped to an angle of about 60 to 70 degrees from vertical (as opposed to 90 degrees when sitting in a normal chair), with some of the body's weight supported by the shins. The original kneeling chair was the Balans chair, which was developed in 1979 by Hans Christian Mengshoel and the designers Oddvin Rykken, Svein Gusrud and Peter Opsvik. Purpose The intended purpose of a kneeling chair is to reduce lower back strain by dividing the burden of the weight to the knees as well as the buttocks. People with ...

yey I got the name right for once :)

Lucas Kauffman

TildalWave

@T.Webster organizing infosec events is also a lot of running around

@LucasKauffman hehe nice, but I'm still missing that epic answer on Skeptics, wherever it might have disappeared

@T.Webster if you can tell us why you'd like to move around more doing your job, or at least give us some more hints, then maybe we can think of some better suitable suggestions?

What I mean is, are there medical reasons, or are you just sick of the office chatter and all the stupidity you had to listen to made you realize you have suicidal tendencies? I'm serious BTW, as I know how lonely one can feel next to utter morons. Would you just like to avoid office environment, cubicles and that shit, or would you literally like to get off your bum more often?

D3C4FF

@T.Webster i do pen-testing and it keeps me out of the office about 50-60% of the time

Lucas Kauffman

7:08 AM

Now I come in at work

drive through all the snow

and they tell me my kick off meeting is canceled

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D3C4FF

8:23 AM

@LucasKauffman you get to eat a whole lot of letters now?

Hey does anyone have any hardware keylogger experience? Any reccomendations?

Adnan

@TildalWave To be honest, I was a bit mean to him in the beginning. The only reason I later tried to stay away from it is that if I continue talking to him, eventually I'll be the one to get suspended.

@D3C4FF Long time ago I purchased from eBay that thing you put the Keyboard cable in it and then you plug it in the computer.

When you want the data you open notepad and type some password combination and it'd automatically "type" (send as keyboard signals) the log on the screen.

D3C4FF

Did you try with different keyboards. I'll be onsite at a university with a wide variety of machines (i don't know details yet) so i'm trying to plan ahead.

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