@JackDouglas github.com/swasheck/sblgnt/blob/master/bibtxt.out

(dumped on 9.2.1)

@swasheck so you got 9.2 after all :-)

I'll have to install arch on a VM - unexpected pleasure

hmm, I see they have a CentOS yum repo - might use that instead...

@JackDouglas really that's not necessary ... thanks for your help up until this point

@swasheck how else will I install your dump ;)

I'm not doing it on my production machine :)

@JackDouglas i was just throwing it out there ... but in reality it's not something that you have to do. it was quite rude of me to just presume ...

@swasheck nonsense

when I get a minute I'll have a go

I'm interested to see what you are doing

tinkering, mostly. just trying to figure out how to provide visual cues as to parts of speech and other parts of parsing

but now i'm going to wander back to the whole bh.se integration thing now that i've found a new python library

idea would be to look something like this --- but it's a bit cluttered so far (and thats without all of the principal parts)

what dimensions have you got: background colour, text colour, anything else?

@JackDouglas borders? after that i'm at a loss

it may be that things need to be broken out into parts of speech before these cues are implemented

but then you have gnarly things like participles which have noun and verb parsings

@swasheck bold/italic/outline/underline/movement

could look quite crowded after all that :-)

yeah ... that's my fear :0

interesting learning tool though

i think in terms of patterns

so seeing patterns of verb tense/aspect usage

highlighting all genitives ...

etc.

@swasheck might sound an uneducated question but surely not all words can be neatly categorised?

I tend to regard grammar as descriptive rather than prescriptive...

@JackDouglas that's the fine line of linguistics. at one level, most of it fits into a recognizable framework with a somewhat clear taxonomy

but there's an undeniably subjective usage of this framework by user, by situation, by genre that needs to be taken into consideration

@swasheck ah yes that is another angle

so you have this blending of things like how to take a perfect tense verb ... you roll through the categories. if you believe in a purely objective, and static, use of language, then your paradigm dictates that you need to choose one of the categories

i'm back in class, learning about verbal aspect theory which focuses on things like how the author could have been using language given the surrounding context

so the present tense becomes the foreground - that which the author wishes for you to focus on, while the other tenses either background information relative to the present, or the other tenses "frontground" by giving a deeper insight into the inner workings of the action.

nearly every word can be neatly categorized within the present taxonomy

that does not mean that the author's usage or intent is beholden to the way we have categorized it :)

meaning comes from the author, audience, and context ... not from our categorizations

@JonEricson what is more usable in your opinion ... put in a verse and get all available version, or choose which version you want upfront?

@swasheck I guess it depends on what you are trying to do. Personally, I don't like changing versions very often, if ever.

But I do like the way some sites give you a bunch of versions when you look at a single verse: classic.net.bible.org/…

And: bible.cc/acts/1-14.htm

If you are looking for translation issues, that really helps.

so for a "questioner's bible" ... start with english and let other people decide if they want LXX, SBLGNT, or BHS later?

@swasheck That's my preference. ;-)

Off topic, but I just had a positive experience posting on SO:

It probably helps that I'm back in language acquisition mode rather than dorking around mode.

@JonEricson congrats :)

it's rare