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[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] 6 issue comments.
[Minesweeper] Games Played: 105, Bombs Used: 72, Moves Performed: 13591, New Users: 22
is javascript that difficult to use? I do not feel like I exaggerate when I say it seems widely hated.
the syntax in the examples I saw did seem fairly similar to c# for I suppose obvious reasons
so @theVBE-it'srightforme .. anecdote time .. Today I spent roughly an hour on replacing an HTML element in javascript
well, in jQuery, but the point still stands
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@Vogel612 well this appears to be an argument in favor of blazor
@MathieuGuindon to address the server side c# thing you mentioned from what I can tell there are two Blazor frameworks (server and web assembly) - server prerenders DOM and then sends updates to client based on client interactions over the SignalR connection, while WebAssembly as it sounds tries to be a SPA and delivers the C# to be executed in the browser
 
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I may have started some work on ComMock.Verify
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was checking up on Moq -- see there's been some versions bumps but I don't think any progress was made on exploring the non-generic API. But I found this: Automocker. Might be interesting.
 
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@this I know some people like that - they moq anything they don't understand.
@HackSlash @MathieuGuindon:
Free and give-away licenses available!
 
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@FreeMan requested one, thanks!
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See, I knew that MVP would come in handy for something! :)
hehe
the funny thing is that the intersection of Excel, SQL Server, and .NET is... well, pretty much home for me.
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Yeah, some of us may have noted that.
How did you get with the ComMock.Verify ?
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@this what do you mean?
11 hours ago, by Mathieu Guindon
I may have started some work on ComMock.Verify
e.g. how it's going
Ah lol well, at the moment all I know is that we're going to want it to return a bool instead of throwing an exception, right?
I'm guessing @this work isn't going very well at the moment, and that "may have" was more of a question than a coy statement... :)
I'm hoping that the expression-builder stuff can be heavily reused for the VerifyExpression
if the Moq's Verify takes an expression, it could be.
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Yep
It hopefully should be simpler since you don't have to do a following Setup/Return
(right?)
Yeah sounds very much like you did all the hard parts already =)
one of the hard parts.... lol
bah was hoping that would onebox
> Very pleased to announce that we will be demonstrating twinBASIC live to our friends at the Microsoft Access DevCon on 22/23 April!
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That's pretty damn awesome
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yep. I registered for that.
you'll have to let us know how it seems - I can't justify the registration fee not being an Access dev any more
or you could preview twinBasic yourself before. Doesn't require going to a conference. ;-)
(the website now says it's due to be released on April 7)
oh wow, went to the site but missed that!
heh, scrolled down looking for new YT vids and missed the big banner at the top!
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tB is going to blow a lot of minds
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^
Dream: MSFT realizes they've made a big mistake and make tB a official language. :-p
unrelated: how do I break Cortana's neck?
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@this I have researched this at great length and the answer is "It's a moving target". What works today may not work tomorrow. Specifically, whenever Windows Update runs it repairs Cortana's neck. So you have to keep killing her.
@this run linux?
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.549981C3F5F10 | Remove-AppxPackage
@Vogel612 not my computer, unfortunately. it's a client computer and dang it's ANNOYING
Cortana is basically Clippy's granddaughter
Oh, then be careful murdering Clippy-AI-Search-Lady on someone elses computer. It can cause some crazy side effects with searching and the client wouldn't know how to fix...
well then the client would just have to ask Corta.. oh
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all I want Cortana is just to step aside and stay out of my way.
the biggest mistake they made was requiring one to sign in....
Then this RegEdit will be a more temporary solution that is easily reversible:
https://www.groovypost.com/howto/disable-cortana-replace-windows-search/
it keeps popping in whenever I hit windows and I've yet to want to do a cortana search. I know where I'm going, TYVM now kindly GFY, KTHXBAI!
Yep that's what I did but it now give me a popup "Cortana is disabled please contact your admin"
headdesk
And never log in with an online account. Always use local account
I think I'll need to think even harder about buying me a cabin in some remote mountain....
My Windows Search works fine with Cortana dead. I've never seen that error message
"Works on my machine"
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AKA Cortana is a ghoul that keeps coming for more.
but I agree. I'm always considering growing a beard and becoming a BSD Zealot. Install BSD on all computers and talk about it to anyone who will listen.
well, I'm pretty sure you'll make a much better FSF board member than rms
first, you'll have to teach them this esoteric concept called "privacy". It'll literally blow their minds.
"What, you mean I don't have to share my personal details with anyone?!?"
When I meet someone who says "I use Arch" I will draw a Bat'leth and scream MORTAL COMBAT
"and I shouldn't? Oh, you crazy!"
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@HackSlash DRAW YOUR WEAPON!
;)
LoL! I was wondering if that would trigger someone
I mean ... I'm writing to you from a laptop running arch ...
soo ...
feels like a "BABALITY" should follow.
(don't mind me, just mixing genres and references in non sequitor ways)
bbiab gotta procure some food
Clippy (the wires from your microphone) + Cortana = happy user.
 
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@this It might at least encourage them to create VSCode desingers for WinForms and WPF
@this Clippy was less annoying
@mansellan well if they did, what is the difference between VS and VSC then?
@this About 2.5 GB :-)
But, see, I'd bet you that the designers are those 2.5 GB....
No such thing as a free lunch. ;-)
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Be interesting to know how tB will work for debugging ActiveX. From what I read, VS6 had all kinds of hacks to make that happen - the IDE basically "sprouted" extra interfaces when hosting an ActiveX server...
I find it fascinating that 20 years ago, it was the "visual" that made the biggest difference. Everyone and their dog's pet monkey was using WYSIWYG editors. Today? snubs nose & disdainful sneer
Makes a useful preview, that's all now.
Perhaps but I still find VS' winforms & wpf designer woefully clunky compared to VB6/VBA's designers.
and let's not talk about those horrid HTML WYSIWYG editors....
yeah i know what you mean
WPF especially. I never have it loaded, even for preview. Hot reload when running is good enough.
yeah, that's basically the good thing to come out with VS 2019
theming RD will be much easier doing it live.
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Mind you, I'm not that keen in XAML either. Technically very impressive, but damn... that learning curve.
Its use of XML makes it so bloated too. Razor is a much nicer approach imo.
Nobody figured out the perfect mix of being easy to visualize & edit visually while still easy to code for
But doesn't Razor still suffer the malaise of mixing presentation and code?
PHP by any other name is....
Yep. It's basically "aw screw it, this is the least bad option".
And no attempt to be "visual"
Tbf, you're only supposed to put view-related code there.
iiuc, not used it in anger
(yet)
> Removal of legacy limitations, such as the size of procedures, number of line continuations
Let further abuse commence!
 
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folks!
just a quick question, did you guys ever manage to add source control the rubberduck vba addin
 
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@Jelly No. It can export all the .BAS files but source control is handled by an external program, like Git. I know git integration was being worked on but I think the decision was that it should support any source control solution.
So that feature might be dead in the water
and here is the official death: github.com/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/issues/3758
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